[resolved] Copy Bible windows seems to lose italics

I use the New American Standard (which has several words in italics).

If I select a single verse for the "Copy Bible" window, any italics in that verse carry through to the "Copy Bible" window).

If I select a range of verses for the "Copy Bible" window, no italics in those verses carry through to the "Copy Bible" window.

I already sent an email to Logos support on this.

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Mark Smith

If I select a range of verses for the "Copy Bible" window, no italics in those verses carry through to the "Copy Bible" window.

This depends on the setting you choose for the copy format. For example I see no italics at all (1 verse or more) when I use any setting other than "Fully Formatted". With Fully Formatted I get italics no matter whether I chose 1 or more verses.

You've pointed out something I believe Faithlife should fix: italics should come through on copying for all possible formats.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714433#Comment_714433

You've pointed out something I believe Faithlife should fix: italics should come through on copying for all possible formats.

Digging a little deeper, there is a custom setting %NoCharFormatting that controls whether the italics should show up. Some of Logos' styles (and I have customized some so don't know which are theirs and which are mine) do not have that setting and will show the italics. They should show in every verse, though.

Can you identify which verses you were copying that show this anomaly?

Robert Howard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714441#Comment_714441

First try Ezra 3:3-6 using the NASB. Verses 4 and 5 contain words in italics, but they don't show at all in my Copy Bible window.

If I try Ezra 3:4-5, the italics for v4 show, but those for v5 don't.

If I try Ezra 3:5-6, the italics for V5 show (there are none in v6 so that's OK).

If I try Ezra 3:5 by itself, the italics show.

I always use the one citation style that I created for my specific needs ... and it does not contain %NoCharFormatting

bob

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714458#Comment_714458

I tried this using the Fully Formatted style since that preserves the italicized text:

I highlighted the italicized text after copy and paste into MS Word. It worked for me.

Robert Howard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714462#Comment_714462

My citation style is as follows:

%UseBibleParagraphs

%NoFootnotes

%NoCitation

%NoRedLetter

%ForEachVerseStyle=Normal

=Header

[FullPassageRef] ([Version])

=ForEachVerse

[ChapterNum]:[VerseNum]

[VerseText]

In those final lines ... if I remove the and HTML tags (which put each verse as a new paragraph), then it works OK!

But I should be able to do that.

bob

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714472#Comment_714472

But I should be able to do that.

Yes, you should. When I get a chance I'll try your citation style and let you know my results.

Robert Howard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714484#Comment_714484

Thanks so much ... this is very puzzling!

bob

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/714503#Comment_714503

Did you get this working?

Robert Howard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/723247#Comment_723247

I finally got this working, but I reported back (not on this forum) to Logos that their whole handling of this does not truly fit "best practices."

As far as the "solution" goes, I removed %UseBibleParagraphs ...

But my bigger concern was that words in italics in the New American Standard (as in several other Bible translations) are not what I would consider "formatting." They're an inherent part of the translation itself. For text not in a Bible, I think italics are typically used for emphasis, or maybe to make the text stand out somewhat and probably could be considered "formatting."

I made this point because I wanted to be able to use %NoCharFormatting (so I could get rid of the special format applied to the first few words of each chapter), but this definitely removes the italics. Yet I maintain that in a Bible translation italics are not "formatting" (see above) but critical and should never be removed.

Anyway, it now seems to be working ... I just have to manually play around with the first few words of a chapter when the situation arises.

bob

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/723277#Comment_723277

Anyway, it now seems to be working ... I just have to manually play around with the first few words of a chapter when the situation arises.

This works

%NoRedLetter
%NoFootnotes
%NoCitation
%UseBibleParagraphs

=Header
[FullPassageRef] ([Version])

=ForEachVerse
[ChapterNum]:[VerseNum]<tab>[VerseText]

But the formatting of the first verse has to be corrected.

Robert Howard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/723524#Comment_723524

Thanks ... but that addition of %UseBibleParagraphs give me formatting that I don't want for my purposes. bob