Web App
I'm sitting in a coffee shop and feeling slightly delirious - web app!! WEB APP!!!
I've given up hauling my old laptop around, but I've been frustrated with the remote connection from my Chromebook. And when the potential of buying an ultrabook was decimated by the need to replace my roof, I was unsure what the next plan was.
So when I stumbled across this new board, and the found the Web App access, I jumped right in. So, two questions:
1) Will Web App access be exclusive to Logos Now users?
2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
This just made my day.
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Jonathan Griffiths said:
1) Will Web App access be exclusive to Logos Now users?
Yes - see https://www.logos.com/product/50138/logos-now
Jonathan Griffiths said:2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
Not sure about the specifics you mention but new features will be introduced on a 6 weekly cycle.
Dave
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Here is the link. https://www.logos.com/logos-now?utm_expid=88677505-71.evOetIj6QgiFCeR-OMqocA.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.logos.com%2Fcart
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Dave Hooton said:Jonathan Griffiths said:
2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
Not sure about the specifics you mention but new features will be introduced on a 6 weekly cycle.
For clarification: I don't think Dave means to suggest that new features will be introduced in the WEB APP every 6 weeks... or do you? It is my understanding that Faithlife will be moving to a 6 week cycle for the desktop app.
It is my understanding that new features will be added to the web app, but no time lines have been given. I think the goal is to make the web app experience as close to the desktop app as possible... New features will be added as they are ready.
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alabama24 said:Dave Hooton said:Jonathan Griffiths said:
2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
Not sure about the specifics you mention but new features will be introduced on a 6 weekly cycle.
For clarification: I don't think Dave means to suggest that new features will be introduced in the WEB APP every 6 weeks... or do you? It is my understanding that Faithlife will be moving to a 6 week cycle for the desktop app.
It is my understanding that new features will be added to the web app, but no time lines have been given. I think the goal is to make the web app experience as close to the desktop app as possible... New features will be added as they are ready.
Correct. The six-week release schedule is for the desktop app. The web app will get updates as soon as they are ready.
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Jonathan Griffiths said:
2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
Not yet. As fast as possible.
Here are some of the current items in our queue:
- Passage Guide
- Factbook
- Context menu
- Basic Search
- Bible Search
- Notes
- Information Panel
- Highlights
- Exegetical Guide
- Bible Word Study Guide
- Topic Guide
- Sermon Starter Guide
- Atlas
- Timeline
- Documents
- Layouts
- Interactives
- Visual Copy
- Concordance
This is tentative. Priorities are subject to change.
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Thanks, Phil. I'm really excited about this development plan. Seriously, this is something I've wanted for a LONG time, and I know I'm not alone. I also understand leveraging the exclusivity of Logos Now data/early access in order to increase the Web App and Mobile App dev potential. Good to see you guys continuing to innovate. And I know you'll take care of the long-term users who want to retain a desktop/download model. I'm a both/and kind of guy.
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alabama24 said:
For clarification: I don't think Dave means to suggest that new features will be introduced in the WEB APP every 6 weeks... or do you?
No! I misread the question and answered for the Desktop Application
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Jonathan Griffiths said:
1) Will Web App access be exclusive to Logos Now users?
But see also https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103245/714014.aspx#714014
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When (and I believe it is "when", not "if") the web app actually functions properly it will be a marvellous interface, however currently it is certainly not worth paying for and I very much doubt that it will be up to speed once the month free trial is over.
So lots of promise but no reason to subscribe yet.
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Mike Pettit said:
So lots of promise but no reason to subscribe yet.
This is why you are to subscribe.
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Lynden Williams said:Mike Pettit said:
So lots of promise but no reason to subscribe yet.
This is why you are to subscribe.
All I am saying is that there is no reason to pay over cash for the web app now as it is nowhere near ready yet.
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Mike Pettit said:Lynden Williams said:Mike Pettit said:
So lots of promise but no reason to subscribe yet.
This is why you are to subscribe.
All I am saying is that there is no reason to pay over cash for the web app now as it is nowhere near ready yet.
Agree. If the main functionality you'd be subscribing for is the web app (which it will be for me), now is not yet the time to subscribe.
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Rayner said:
If the main functionality you'd be subscribing for is the web app (which it will be for me), now is not yet the time to subscribe.
+1
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The Web App definitely needs work. In fairness that isn't one of the features you are necessarily paying for if you read the wording carefully. The web app access is to the beta. In other words, a sneak peek.
What you are really paying for right now is development (of the web app) PLUS:
When you subscribe to Logos Now, you’ll get the following content, tools, and benefits:
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This may be the wrong way to get into this conversation, so excuse my lack of understanding. My question/Comment is, what about windows phone 10? My understanding is that it will support any windows program. Would it not be easier to provide the appropriate formatting to logos 6 to run it on windows phone 10?
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They are actually working on an app for Windows Phone.Robert B Harte said:This may be the wrong way to get into this conversation, so excuse my lack of understanding. My question/Comment is, what about windows phone 10? My understanding is that it will support any windows program. Would it not be easier to provide the appropriate formatting to logos 6 to run it on windows phone 10?
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Robert B Harte said:
This may be the wrong way to get into this conversation, so excuse my lack of understanding. My question/Comment is, what about windows phone 10? My understanding is that it will support any windows program. Would it not be easier to provide the appropriate formatting to logos 6 to run it on windows phone 10?
this has nothing to do with windows phone. There is a community pricing effort to bring a native app to that platform. I will see if I can find the link.
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Robert B Harte said:
This may be the wrong way to get into this conversation, so excuse my lack of understanding. My question/Comment is, what about windows phone 10? My understanding is that it will support any windows program. Would it not be easier to provide the appropriate formatting to logos 6 to run it on windows phone 10?
Windows 10 will run any Windows application, but Windows Phone 10 will not.
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David Taylor Jr said:
They are actually working on an app for Windows Phone.
For clarification: they have put the app up for community pricing. If users REALLY want it, they will pay for it to go into development.
https://www.logos.com/product/50060/windows-universal-bible-app
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Phil Gons said:Jonathan Griffiths said:
2) Do we have an ETA on when the various Tools, Guides, and layouts will be implemented?
Not yet. As fast as possible.
Here are some of the current items in our queue:
- Passage Guide
- Factbook
- Context menu
- Basic Search
- Bible Search
- Notes
- Information Panel
- Highlights
- Exegetical Guide
- Bible Word Study Guide
- Topic Guide
- Sermon Starter Guide
- Atlas
- Timeline
- Documents
- Layouts
- Interactives
- Visual Copy
- Concordance
This is tentative. Priorities are subject to change.
im excited about highlights and notes hitting web app so that it can at least function as an effective reader.
Thank you for prioritizing browser app function.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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David Taylor Jr said:
The Web App definitely needs work. In fairness that isn't one of the features you are necessarily paying for if you read the wording carefully. The web app access is to the beta. In other words, a sneak peek.
What you are really paying for right now is development (of the web app) PLUS:
When you subscribe to Logos Now, you’ll get the following content, tools, and benefits:
How do you access these. I signed up for Logos Now, but I am only seeing the media and the concordance. Do you have to pay additional for the other?
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
How do you access these. I signed up for Logos Now, but I am only seeing the media and the concordance. Do you have to pay additional for the other?
No.
No # 1 only works with Gen - Num, and a few other books. Try several OT books.
Open your library and find No. # 2.
Under Tools you will see the option to see all Interactives.
Others expand what was already there.
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Curious, I cannot find how to use the Author slide and the Logos stock images. I cannot find where the slides are.
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
Curious, I cannot find how to use the Author slide and the Logos stock images. I cannot find where the slides are.
They are accessed through the Media Browser. They are online resources.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Is there going to be a beta so that those of us who have been beta testing for quite some time help iron out the problems in the web app. I know it's a beta as of now. Will we all be sort of beta testing or will some get earlier access to help test.
If so I hope I can be included, as I'd love to use this with my Chromebook. Right now it's pretty much useless. I can't even navigate to 1 Corinthians 13. I'm assuming this is because the web app is not really ready.
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Is there going to be a beta so that those of us who have been beta testing for quite some time help iron out the problems in the web app. I know it's a beta as of now. Will we all be sort of beta testing or will some get earlier access to help test.
If so I hope I can be included, as I'd love to use this with my Chromebook. Right now it's pretty much useless. I can't even navigate to 1 Corinthians 13. I'm assuming this is because the web app is not really ready.
I agree Kevin - it's not even got the Biblia.com functionality on board yet. For example, Reading Plans don't appear on it at all. I love the idea, and hope it's going to be developed quickly. It will be great for those with things like Chromebooks, as you say, and might finally kill off the Linux thread!
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
Is there going to be a beta so that those of us who have been beta testing for quite some time help iron out the problems in the web app. I know it's a beta as of now. Will we all be sort of beta testing or will some get earlier access to help test.
If so I hope I can be included, as I'd love to use this with my Chromebook. Right now it's pretty much useless. I can't even navigate to 1 Corinthians 13. I'm assuming this is because the web app is not really ready.
It is likely that we will allow some users to opt into "pre-release" features, but we haven't sorted out all of those details, yet. (it is likely that the mechanism for opting into this will involve joining a Faithlife group)
As for your difficulties navigating, this is the first I've heard of such a thing, and I just confirmed that I can do so both via the command bar at the top and by entering the passage in an individual panel. Could you share more details of what's happening in your case?
David Mitchell
Development Lead
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I'm guessing I got bumped out. I closed the tab in Chrome and reopened one and it asked me to log back in and it worked.
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Will the web app offer greater functionality on an android tablet than the current app when fully developed, or would it make more sense to use a Surface tablet? I really use my mobile devices more than the desktop, but often miss the full features of the desktop software.
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Tim Farley said:
Will the web app offer greater functionality on an android tablet than the current app when fully developed
Yes.
Tim Farley said:would it make more sense to use a Surface tablet?
It depends... but if you want those features NOW, only one of those options will work.
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Thanks for the reply. I am looking forward to a full-featured web app. I have been considering upgrading to a Surface tablet so I could run Logos, but a web app opens up other options. I have not jumped on the subscription yet and will probably wait a while until there is more development.
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I know we don't have a timeline for full functionality and I know the Desktop app is going to be on a 6-week cycle. Anyone from Faithlife have any tentative timetable for updates to the web app?
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David Taylor Jr said:
I know we don't have a timeline for full functionality and I know the Desktop app is going to be on a 6-week cycle. Anyone from Faithlife have any tentative timetable for updates to the web app?
We don't have a specific schedule, but *in general*, releases should happen more frequently on the web than they do on the desktop.
David Mitchell
Development Lead
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Will be able to use Personal books?
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Karel Vasilek, B.Th. said:
Will be able to use Personal books?
If you don't get a better answer from FL, I assume the answer is "it's on the list" (i.e. "Yes, you will be able to use personal books, No we can't tell you when you will be able to do so").
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alabama24 said:Karel Vasilek, B.Th. said:
Will be able to use Personal books?
If you don't get a better answer from FL, I assume the answer is "it's on the list" (i.e. "Yes, you will be able to use personal books, No we can't tell you when you will be able to do so").
alabama is correct
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What do I win? Chicken Dinner?
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alabama24 said:
Chicken Dinner?
That's it! My Bride is out of town, and I have been trying to determine what I wanted for lunch—KFC it is—Thank you, Bama [:D]
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alabama24 said:
What do I win? Chicken Dinner?
Next time we are in the same area, sure: I will buy you a chicken dinner.
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Does the 6-week-updates starts from the launch of Logos Now or 1 month after the launch?
I feel like I jumped in too early and will lose my 1-month-free promo. I should've just waited till Logos release the first update to decide.
Because I don't think the Web App will get the first update until I lose my first free month. And day-1 early adopters don't get any specials at all on Web App.
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The 6 week cycle has already completed one cycle.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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David Taylor Jr said:
These features were developed during a six-week cycle of 6.2 (although they were only accessible at the time to the private beta group). We're now into a six-week cycle that will lead to 6.3.
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6.0b was the first version released on the six-week cycle; 6.1 followed six weeks later, then 6.2.
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Ah that makes sense.Mark Barnes said:David Taylor Jr said:These features were developed during a six-week cycle of 6.2 (although they were only accessible at the time to the private beta group). We're now into a six-week cycle that will lead to 6.3.
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mike said:
Because I don't think the Web App will get the first update until I lose my first free month. And day-1 early adopters don't get any specials at all on Web App.
The web app is not confined to the 6 week cycle IIRC
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Someone from FL...What is the plan to alert to new web app features when they are ready? Blog Post? Pop up in app?
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Probably some combination of all of the above, depending on how significant the change is.
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Probably some combination of all of the above, depending on how significant the change is.
When is the next big update for Web App? This is the crucial moment for most people.
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