"Rent" AND/OR Buy Logos Now

Ron Corbett
Ron Corbett Member Posts: 860 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

First, I don't mind paying a modest monthly fee to gain access to new features as they come out. I also like showing Logos my support for their tireless efforts to provide this community with the finest service they can provide. They are always striving to integrate new ideas and we benefit from this. So I am in for the monthly fee and don't see myself canceling any time soon.

My concern is that this "Logos Now" program not become a "rental" approach to Bible Software (- as seen on some other sites). At some point, I would like to know that the features I have been subscribing for ... actually pass from the realm of rental property to personal ownership. This may be exactly what Logos has in mind, but it isn't clear now and I do hope that as we go from year to year, the amazing new features will become a part of the Base Packages - as ALL other data sets have in the past.

Caveat: If Logos expanded their Web products - subscriptions to larger Libraries and such that might supplement the resource base of subscribers, that would be interesting. But software features and datasets inherent to a Logos environment - such as we are used to now - IMO should never be so temporary as to (only) belong to the community of renters. There is something unsettling about that.

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  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭

    First, I don't mind paying a modest monthly fee to gain access to new features as they come out. I also like showing Logos my support for their tireless efforts to provide this community with the finest service they can provide. They are always striving to integrate new ideas and we benefit from this. So I am in for the monthly fee and don't see myself canceling any time soon.

    My concern is that this "Logos Now" program not become a "rental" approach to Bible Software (- as seen on some other sites). At some point, I would like to know that the features I have been subscribing for ... actually pass from the realm of rental property to personal ownership. This may be exactly what Logos has in mind, but it isn't clear now and I do hope that as we go from year to year, the amazing new features will become a part of the Base Packages - as ALL other data sets have in the past.

    Caveat: If Logos expanded their Web products - subscriptions to larger Libraries and such that might supplement the resource base of subscribers, that would be interesting. But software features and datasets inherent to a Logos environment - such as we are used to now - IMO should never be so temporary as to (only) belong to the community of renters. There is something unsettling about that.

    If I understand what Faithlife has said correctly, this is the model that they are pursuing.
  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,191

    There may be content or services in Logos Now that are never included in a base package: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103335/714919.aspx#714919 

    (If you haven't read all Bob's posts in that thread, I would recommend doing so: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/103335.aspx.) 

  • Ron Corbett
    Ron Corbett Member Posts: 860 ✭✭✭

    There may be content or services in Logos Now that are never included in a base package: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103335/714919.aspx#714919 

    (If you haven't read all Bob's posts in that thread, I would recommend doing so: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/103335.aspx.) 

    Thanks Bradley,

    I DID miss Bob's post. [Interestingly, I had not heard anyone using the rent / buy analogy - should have guessed that with this crowd it is hard to be original unless you are quick to the post.]

    Bob's post makes this offering very clear. I get it and I am all in!

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭
    One thing that would be interesting to see is the ability to keep the datasets/media/features you currently have with Logos Now even if you cancel your subscription, but they no longer update (some features like Logos Web App could be downgraded to a more basic version if one cancel's their Logos Now subscription). Any new features, media, datasets, or updates to features, media, or datasets would not become available until one re-subacribes to Logos Now.

    Not sure how Faithlife/Logos could properly offer that, but it would at least allow people to not lose an investment if they cancel Logos Now. They're just locked in to what they currently own until they re-subscribe.

    Nathan Parker

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    One thing that would be interesting to see is the ability to keep the datasets/media/features you currently have with Logos Now even if you cancel your subscription, but they no longer update (some features like Logos Web App could be downgraded to a more basic version if one cancel's their Logos Now subscription). Any new features, media, datasets, or updates to features, media, or datasets would not become available until one re-subacribes to Logos Now. Not sure how Faithlife/Logos could properly offer that, but it would at least allow people to not lose an investment if they cancel Logos Now. They're just locked in to what they currently own until they re-subscribe.

    If Faithlife did that, some people would subscribe for a month 1-4 times a year to save money and get most of the same advantages.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,636

    One thing that would be interesting to see is the ability to keep the datasets/media/features you currently have with Logos Now even if you cancel your subscription, but they no longer update (some features like Logos Web App could be downgraded to a more basic version if one cancel's their Logos Now subscription).

    It is difficult to imagine the accounting nightmare such a scenario would produce.

  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    One thing that would be interesting to see is the ability to keep the datasets/media/features you currently have with Logos Now even if you cancel your subscription, but they no longer update (some features like Logos Web App could be downgraded to a more basic version if one cancel's their Logos Now subscription). Any new features, media, datasets, or updates to features, media, or datasets would not become available until one re-subacribes to Logos Now. Not sure how Faithlife/Logos could properly offer that, but it would at least allow people to not lose an investment if they cancel Logos Now. They're just locked in to what they currently own until they re-subscribe.

    What would prevent a user from subscribing for a month, get all the datasets, media, and features, then cancel the subscription?

  • Ron Corbett
    Ron Corbett Member Posts: 860 ✭✭✭

    Fredc said:

    What would prevent a user from subscribing for a month, get all the datasets, media, and features, then cancel the subscription?

    In the links posted by Bradley this issue (and more) was addressed. It is worth the time to read through the posts there.