New Feature: Greek Grammatical Constructions (dataset)
What is it?
This new dataset identifies grammatical constructions in the New Testament and finds other occurrences of the construction in the Bible. Example: Find all the first-class conditional statements in Paul's letters.
How does it work?
This dataset labels all instances of emphatic negation, Granville Sharp's first rule, conditional clauses, historical presents, articular infinitives, clause-level asyndeton, Colwell's Rule, protasis, apodosis, genitive, dative, and accusative absolutes, attraction, and incorporation.
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See how constructions are built by viewing examples from the Bible
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Track down other occurrences of grammatical constructions, like 1st class conditional clauses
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Compare how one author uses a construction against another, like the historical present
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Create a visual filter that highlights these constructions in your Bible of choice
Where can I learn more?
Watch it in action here. https://logos.wistia.com/medias/pq2olafdh9
Logos.com/Features#LogosNow
https://www.logos.com/product/51518/greek-grammatical-constructions-dataset
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Is this new data set what is feeding the new Grammar section in the exegetical guide? Would I lose that functionality without Logos Now?
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Mike Tourangeau said:
Is this new data set what is feeding the new Grammar section in the exegetical guide? Would I lose that functionality without Logos Now?
Yes, as of right now
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Hi Mike.
Mike Tourangeau said:Is this new data set what is feeding the new Grammar section in the exegetical guide? Would I lose that functionality without Logos Now?
The "Greek Grammatical Constructions" dataset is the basis of the new (6.3 + Logos Now) Grammatical Constructions guide section.
The revision of the "Grammar" section (6.3 + Logos Now) is a different analysis of grammars. It is a separate underlying dataset of information unrelated to the Greek Grammatical Constructions dataset.
Edit: To answer your question, yes, the new Grammar section is a component of Logos Now.
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Jacob Cerone said:
This dataset labels all instances of emphatic negation, Granville Sharp's first rule, conditional clauses, historical presents, articular infinitives, clause-level asyndeton, and Colwell's Rule.
Question: Are there any more grammatical constructions that will need to be added to this data set / or may be added?
[Thinking about students of NTG]
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We have some ideas for more, but would love suggestions. There is a Faithlife Group for discussing the dataset and suggestions for improvements and additions.
https://faithlife.com/lexham-greek-grammatical-constructions-dataset
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
We have some ideas for more, but would love suggestions. There is a Faithlife Group for discussing the dataset and suggestions for improvements and additions.
https://faithlife.com/lexham-greek-grammatical-constructions-dataset
Is Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament: A Practical Introduction for Teaching and Exegesis part of this dataset? That book does not come up in the search.
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EX said:
Is Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament: A Practical Introduction for Teaching and Exegesis part of this dataset? That book does not come up in the search.
Your search isn't using the Dataset - it is using a Collection called "All Grammars"
Check under Tools-> Collections and see how that Collection is defined. You can see it using the "Open" option in the Collections Tool.
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Graham Criddle said:EX said:
Is Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament: A Practical Introduction for Teaching and Exegesis part of this dataset? That book does not come up in the search.
Your search isn't using the Dataset - it is using a Collection called "All Grammars"
Check under Tools-> Collections and see how that Collection is defined. You can see it using the "Open" option in the Collections Tool.
Good point! However, I am wondering why this useful resource is not part of the Greek Grammatical Constructions (dataset).
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EX said:
I am wondering why this useful resource is not part of the Greek Grammatical Constructions (dataset).
I don't understand.
This dataset supports tagging of the biblical text with certain grammatical constructions. It doesn't contain a set of Grammars.
Sorry I think I understand now - were you running the search from the Grammars Section of the Exegetical Guide? (which is where the "All Grammars" comes from)
If so this particular Grammar is included in those resources as shown below
So the question becomes why isn't it appearing in your results.
Please post a full screenshot showing the entire search window. That might help identify what is going on.
And apologies for any confusion or misleading information.
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EX said:
Good point! However, I am wondering why this useful resource is not part of the Greek Grammatical Constructions (dataset).
I think you're misunderstanding what the Greek Grammatical Constructions (dataset) is.
This dataset does not add any resources to your library (datasets never do that). It adds new search features so you can search your Bibles for particular grammatical constructions.
Despite what was posted by some users earlier in this thread, this dataset doesn't power the Grammars section of the exegetical guide. It powers the Grammatical Constructions section instead. Rick made that clear here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105260/728446.aspx#728446
There's more information about Grammatical Constructions here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/105160.aspx
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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Will verbs be included in the dataset in the future? For example I Would like to find all the Constative aorists in the New Testament.
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John Brumett said:
Will verbs be included in the dataset in the future? For example I Would like to find all the Constative aorists in the New Testament.
I'm certain Logos will move on to verbs etc.
The larger issue is: while such lists offer good derivative analysis, the information may not always stand up to scrutiny in very demanding or specialized research. Use appropriately and with care.
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Can someone explain what underlying resource has informed the tagging? The tagging is only as good as the information informing it. Hoping someone can help as I get no support from logos chat or elsewhere. I'm wanting to buy this dataset standalone.
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Hi Joel.
There are several sources depending on the feature you're interested in. The "Greek Grammatical Constructions Dataset Documentation Resource" (delivered with the dataset) has all sorts of information, including a bibliography:
References
• Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics by Daniel Wallace
• A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research by A.T. Robertson
• A Grammar of New Testament Greek, Volume 2: Accidence and Word-Formation by James Moulton and Francis Howard
• Grammar of New Testament Greek by Friedrich Blass
• A Grammar of New Testament Greek, Volume 3: Syntax by James Moulton and Nigel Turner
• Idioms of the Greek New Testament by Stanley Porter
• Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament: A Practical Introduction for Teaching and Exegesis by Steve Runge
• Revisiting the Colwell Construction in Light of Mass/Count Nouns by Donald Hartley
• Sharp Redivivus? A Reexamination of the Granville Sharp Rule by Daniel Wallace
• First Class Conditions: What Do They Mean? by James L. Boyer
• Second Class Conditions in New Testament Greek by James L. Boyer
• Third (and Fourth) Class Conditions by James L. Boyer
• The Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament
• The Greek New Testament: SBL Edition
• Greek Circumstantial Participles by Phylis and Alan Healey
• Articular Infinitives in the Greek of the New Testament: On the Exegetical Benefit of Grammatical Precision by Denny Burk
• On the Articular Infinitive in Phillippians 2:6: A Grammatical Note with Christological Implications by Denny Burk
• The Genitive Absolute in New Testament/Hellenistic Greek: A Proposal for Clearer Understanding by Lois K. Fuller
James Parks, Greek Grammatical Constructions Documentation (Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2015).
Rick Brannan | Bluesky: rickbrannan.com
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