About Indexing

Indexing does require a lot of disk space -- at least as much space as your resources require.

If your indexing crashes, it's (likely) either disk space or something we didn't anticipate in one of the LDLS 3.x resources already on your system. Sending the log files will be a big help in identifying these resources. (We don't have an archive of every version of every resource that's been released over the past decade.)

-- Bob

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    So to clarify, if I have 10GB of resources, the index by itself will be at least 10GB?

    Laptop: Windows 7 Professional x64, Intel Dual-Core, 2GB RAM, Radeon X1600

    Home: Vista Ultimate x86,  AMD Quad-Core, 4GB RAM, GeForce 8400 GS 512MB

    Work: Windows 7 x64, Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM, Radeon X1300/X1550

    The ratio isn't exact (and I'm not sure we even have 10 gigs of resources), but that's a safe rule of thumb.

    -- Bob

    Bob, I have 15 gigs of resources :-)

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

    Hello Bob, where I can find a log file to send it to you? I have 20 GB free on my disk and it just crashes at the very beginning of the indexing. It doesn't even start indexing and says the program has been stooped by Windows. I have Vista Business Service Pack 2. Thanks for any help.

    Bohuslav

    After Install goes OK, it starts Logos 4, login goes OK, than starts indexing and crashes. Log file says the problem is cookies (see attached)

    I use Vista Business SP2, 2 GB memory, NVidia card etc.

    http">1106.Logos4.zip">http 

    Bohuslav

    I also am having Logos 4 crashing out on indexing.  I am running XP SP3, IE8 and have 62.3GB free space on my C Drive.  The majority of my resource files are however located on an external drive.   I submitted error report to microsoft as suggested, and have attached the logos4 and logos4indexer log files.   Other log files were mentioned in the post about log files but no locaiton was given for them and I could not find them.  I did try a restart of my computer and noticed on reboot of windows logos icon was in system tray trying to do download an update.  It only got a few percentage points through and crashed out of that also.... the download of resources took around 3 hours.1401.Logos4.zip

    I am using IE 8. Do I need to delete it and run IE 7 to index properly?

    I also am having Logos 4 crashing out on indexing.


    Andrew,

    We want to collect some more detailed information from your system. Please place the attached "Logos4Indexer.NLog.config" file in your "My Documents\Libronix Log Files" folder (the same folder where the Logos4Indexer.log file is currently located). Re-run the program, then post your Logos4Indexer.log file for diagnosis.

    I also am having Logos 4 crashing out on indexing.


     Andrew,

    We want to collect some more detailed information from your system. Please place the attached "Logos4Indexer.NLog.config" file in your "My Documents\Libronix Log Files" folder (the same folder where the Logos4Indexer.log file is currently located). Re-run the program, then post your Logos4Indexer.log file for diagnosis.

     

    Thank you for getting back to me Bradley, I appreciate it.  I had a party last night, and church this morning and just found your post (i sure miss not having this in newsgroup format, would be so much easier to work with than these forums) up on the posts, but its Father's  day here in Australia today so its pretty much family time today, maybe later this afternoon/ early evening I might be able to get back into this proper and report on how things are progressing.

    Andrew

    I also am having Logos 4 crashing out on indexing.


     Andrew,

    We want to collect some more detailed information from your system. Please place the attached "Logos4Indexer.NLog.config" file in your "My Documents\Libronix Log Files" folder (the same folder where the Logos4Indexer.log file is currently located). Re-run the program, then post your Logos4Indexer.log file for diagnosis.

     

    I just discovered that there was an error in the file I attached last time. An updated file is attached; please use this one.

    No problem Bradley,  I was just getting ready to send some logs to you and almost missed your post as I was going to go back to your orginal post to reply but  came to the end of the list first just to see what experiences others had been having (newsgroups would be so much easier to work with in this situation and no danger of missing a post like I came close to doing here..). I will download the new file and give it another whirl.

    Ok Bradley, here are the new logs for you to work with.  Thanks.1030.Logos4logs.zip

    Ok Bradley, here are the new logs for you to work with.  Thanks.


    Thanks, Andrew for getting back to me so quickly. Unfortunately, it still doesn't look like there's quite enough information in the log files to identify which particular file is causing the problem. We'd really like to find out which one it is, so we can process it here, find out why it's causing problems, and fix the problem for everyone. We'll add even more logging in Beta 2 to help track this issue.

    In the meantime, other people have reported problems with LSF and third-party resources. Here's a workaround that may work. Open your LDLS3 Resources folder (usually C:\Program Files\Libronix DLS\Resources, but if you've customised that setting, repeat this for every folder in your Resource Paths lists) and move the following files to a separate folder that is not in your discovery paths (nor a subfolder of a discovery path):

    • *.lsf, *.lix
    • e4_*.lbxlls
    • anything older than February 2006 (sort by Date in Details view to find these easily)

    Hopefully that should still leave you with hundreds of resources to test Logos 4 with.

    You can now start Logos 4, and it should have a better chance of making it through the library preparation process. When that's done (and the main Logos 4 window opens) you can move the files back to their original folders, so that LDLS3 can still find them.

     Here's a workaround that may work. Open your LDLS3 Resources folder (usually C:\Program Files\Libronix DLS\Resources, but if you've customised that setting, repeat this for every folder in your Resource Paths lists) and move the following files to a separate folder that is not in your discovery paths (nor a subfolder of a discovery path):

    • *.lsf, *.lix
    • e4_*.lbxlls
    • anything older than February 2006 (sort by Date in Details view to find these easily)

    Hopefully that should still leave you with hundreds of resources to test Logos 4 with.

    You can now start Logos 4, and it should have a better chance of making it through the library preparation process. When that's done (and the main Logos 4 window opens) you can move the files back to their original folders, so that LDLS3 can still find them.


    Ok Bradley, just to update you,  I have done as you suggested but wanted to work through it methodically instead of just moving the files all at once so I would know what resources I am taking off-line and generated Bibliography Reports in 3.0 of those resources.   There was 43 resources in LLS2.0 (*.lsf, *.lix) format that are now offline and in terms of the e4 and other lbxlss resources dated prior to Feb 2006 there was a total of 1278 resources that were take off-line.. This lot included some volumes of WBC and some resources I only purchased within the last month, so I am going to now have to set up a virtual machine and install 3 on that so I can continue to use these resources, at least for now, particularly the ones I have just purchased and was working through.   It also included all 3.0 help files in the offline folder as I didn't see any point in having them indexed at  this point .

    So far it hasn't crashed and I can access resources in my library... logos system tray icon indicates there are 4,322 resources remaining to be indexed. It has been stuck on this count for some time now.   The application is very sluggish at the moment due to the indexing so I am looking at help files at the moment to get familar with some of the new terminology.  I should add I also did manage to get the second set of resources to download successfully finally.  Its just wait and see for now.

    You do realise that you can pause indexing for a while if you want to something else on your computer and it's acting sluggish?

    Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.

    Thanks Alex, I had noticed that, it nots so much my computer being sluggish, just Logos 4 itself due to the indexing. It seems though there is only a pause for four hours option, it would be good if there were additonal time options say 1 hour and 2 hour as well as the four hours.  That said I do relaise you can also manually resume the indexing so not a major one in light of other things, more one of those nice to have things that maybe could come later...

    How can you tell the status of indexing? Install went fine, the program is up and running, I can run passage guide, exegetical guide, etc. Run Search and click Bible and it tells me the library is still being indexed. Set it to All Passages in ESV and tried a few searches and it did not turn up any matches. I am pretty sure the word God appears somewhere in the ESV. :)

    I assume the search issue is an index problem? How can I tell how far along indexing is?

    There should be a blue Logos logo icon in your system tray during indexing. Hover over it to see the indexing progress.

    -- Bob

    The Logos icon disappeared out of my system tray. Running Windows 7. Program still indexing - been busy for a few hours now.

    It's like having a baby; waiting for the indexing to finish! [:O]

    I've got 14 resources to go and I feel like handing out cigars!

     

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    Pieter and other Win 7 users,

    Be sure you check the Show Hidden Icons link (the little up arrow) in the Win 7 system tray. That's where the Logos tray icon was for me. I didn't even think to look for a system tray icon until Bob mentioned it.

    mine has done the same... several times.

    It will probably also be helpful to note that if you get Windows complaining that the indexer isn't responding, you might as well kill the indexer straight away.

    I left it running on my dual-core because I noticed the number to do was still dropping. Unfortunately when it got to one, it stayed there (makes sense, one thread must have been doing all the work and the other which stopped had claimed that last book). On restart, it looks like all of the books are being done all over again. Hard lesson timewise, but perhaps I can stop others from experiencing it too.

    Indexing hanging around 1913 rosourses. Will not move. Started out with about 1940 or so.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

    Finally moved to 1911.  Why does it take so long for some files, while the software breezes through others?

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

    Lynden,

    I don't know...better give them to me and let me check it out!

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

    Logos 4 Indexing keeps crashing. I have oodles of disk space.

    1. Do I have to be connected to the internet while the Indexing occurs.

    2. The tray icon used to give me a % downloading. The last number I saw was 64%.

    3. Now the blue tray icon says ... "preparing your library... stage 1 of 3". Then crashes.

     

    I am impatient.

    Stephen Miller

    Sydney, Australia

    I am also having difficulty with indexing. It stops and then the program will work except with the books being indexed. I have Vista, SP2 NVidia Graphic ....

    Logos 4 Indexing keeps crashing. I have oodles of disk space.

    1. Do I have to be connected to the internet while the Indexing occurs.

    2. The tray icon used to give me a % downloading. The last number I saw was 64%.

    3. Now the blue tray icon says ... "preparing your library... stage 1 of 3". Then crashes.

     

    I am impatient.

    Stephen Miller

    Sydney, Australia

    Hi Stephen, I'm unsure if you posted this somewhere else but if you can post your log files it would be great. I think there already is a thread on the indexer crashing specifically, if not you can go ahead and post here, we are working on a hierarchy for organization and it'll be ready real soon!

    My computer does not crash and all of my books are generally present in my library; however, Logos 4 will not stop indexing.  When it finishes, it starts all over again.  I have no log files, I have plenty of disk space.  This has been going on since last Friday.  No one has yet said anything about this being a problem except for me that I am aware of.  Is there any way I can get Logos 4 to quit indexing other than just pausing it every 4 hours?

    Bob, I indicated yesterday that I have virtually no C: space and that this will not change.  Since I have not heard anything from you  or your team concerning the option to allow us to chose the install drive, it leaves me in a quandry.  Even now, on my vista 64 bit machine, I am not crashing however the indexing has gone down to 0 twice... yet at this moment the blue V4 icon is missing in my system tray but the program is telling me that it is still indexing.  I am not able to help you all if we don't have some communication on this.  Is custom installation to be allowed in Beta 2?  when would beta 2 be out, about 2 weeks like we had in Libronix 1 alpha and beta ?  should I rename Drive c to drive x and then rename a new empty drive to Drive C and then reinstall V4?  If I this would/should work, what would need to be done with the current version of the beta... just unistall it?  Clean the registry?  I need some direction on this please.  Since this is the holiday it gives me some extra time to work this out before I get back to chuch time on Tuesday.

    Pastor Kelly

    Hi Kelly,



    Bob did mention somewhere that in future releases we will be able to store and read stuff in different locations. Right now I am in a similar boat as you. All my books are on my Mac drive and I don't have the space to put them in two places (Mac and under VMWare). So I am working with a limited books set until that time. Kind of difficult to really test it hard, but I guess we have no choice.



    Joe

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