I am referring to being able to look up simple English definitions offline (as a matter of fact, Kindle allows other several dictionaries to be downloaded, including foreign ones). This is a very handy feature, and it is sorely missing in Logos.
The iOS version actually does work correctly in this regard IF offline.
I agree that when online there should be an option to lookup in the "system" dictionaries (which are also expandable on iOS).
EDIT: dictionary lookup also works when online (iOS) in non-Bibles, but there's a 1-2 second pause as it tries to look for the Hebrew/Greek word first. I have not found a way to look up an English word in–say–the ESV, while online.
My iOS's (Noet and Biblia) stopped working (defining) a few weeks back. So, for me, they're actually NOT working. They do an off-line lookup ... and report no definition. I thought it was my poor memory. Thanks, Reuben.
I cannot comment on how it works on iOS. My experience is with the Android app.
Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/72300.aspx for a previous discussion on this topic. For entering a suggestion for this, please follow the instructions here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/65558.aspx .
The iOS version actually does work correctly in this regard IF offline. I agree that when online there should be an option to lookup in the "system" dictionaries (which are also expandable on iOS).
There already exists a case for this.
The Faithlife apps will not show an offline definition if you haven't downloaded a dictionary from Apple.
Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/72300.aspx for a previous discussion on this topic.
That's a pretty short discussion!
Please see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/72300.aspx for a previous discussion on this topic. That's a pretty short discussion!
Is there something wrong or inaccurate there? If so please let us know.
Thanks, Kevin. Here's the actual issue: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203834 for anyone else. Probably accurate and not wrong.
Recog'ing Francis' Android need is also accuarate and not wrong.
Here's the important truth from that short discussion: "The Logos iOS apps use a dictionary service that is built into the iOS operating system and there is no easy equivalent on Android."If there *is* an easy equivalent default dictionary on Android that you are aware of please let us know. Denise, can you help? Amazon's Kindle devices live under Amazon's umbrella and run a heavily modified version of Android, modified to such an extent that they've renamed it Fire OS.Fire OS on Kindle devices might have a default dictionary but the vast majority of Android devices do not, and additionally nearly every vendor that sells Android devices modifies Android to their liking, thus creating fragmentation problems for third party software vendors like Faithlife that might need a way to access that non-existent "default dictionary." In other words, all iOS devices offer any number of built-in dictionaries that Faithlife apps can access, but the millions of combinations of fragmented Android devices manufactured by hundreds of vendors do not. Faithlife has *zero* control over that.So Francis, please enter a suggestion by following the instructions at the link I previously posted. I understand how great it would be to have a default dictionary on Android devices but I believe the only solution is for Faithlife to include one in our apps.
Is there something wrong or inaccurate there?
No, but that was not my point. I was just saying that there is not much of a discussion there, simply a statement to the effect that it is not easy to do. I am not sure how kindle does it, but I assume it is a different approach than the iOS inbuilt dictionary. If so, should the iOS approach be taken as the model for the Android app? I guess I don't understand why it is difficult to do locally what seems to be basic cross-referencing of words to downloaded dictionaries.
I guess I don't understand why it is difficult to do locally what seems to be basic cross-referencing of words to downloaded dictionaries.
Yes, I often wonder the same thing. It sure would be nice to have access to my LSJ, BDAG, etc. offline..
I guess I don't understand why it is difficult to do locally what seems to be basic cross-referencing of words to downloaded dictionaries. Yes, I often wonder the same thing. It sure would be nice to have access to my LSJ, BDAG, etc. offline..
You can download the BDAG and LSJ for offline use. If you mean accessing them offline in relation to the Guides or Bible Word Study, there is already a UserVoice suggestion for this - please vote it up.
You can download the BDAG and LSJ for offline use.
Thanks Kevin, I do appreciate your reply. But I think we both know that under its current implementation, the offline use of dictionaries under Android is clunky at best. I have both BDAG and LSJ downloaded on my phone, but I rarely use them because looking up words is such a pain. Being able to click on a word in a Greek text and have it jump to the correct spot in a dictionary seems like such an obvious feature that I'm reluctant to bother using something like UserVoice to vote it up..
I don't doubt that it's non-trivial to implement, with all the fragmentation of the Android market, but in terms of genuine useability, offline dictionary lookups is really something that should be here already.
Being able to click on a word in a Greek text and have it jump to the correct spot in a dictionary seems like such an obvious feature that I'm reluctant to bother using something like UserVoice to vote it up..
Many people feel that dozens of different Logos Desktop features should (obviously) be on mobile already. If you don't want to vote for it that's up to you, but not voting for it won't make it happen any faster.
