I just downloaded WBC volume 18b, Job 38-42 by David J.A. Clines that was released today. This resource is mis-typed in my Library as a "Monograph" rather than as a "Bible Commentary" as it should be.
I noticed this too. I'm sure it will be corrected soon.
Yep, just was about to submit a post when I saw this post.
David
This was a weird one on our end.
The resource got to you before the updated metadata. At any rate, you should see the resource type change within a couple of hours.
The resource got to you before the updated metadata.
Oops.
At any rate, you should see the resource type change within a couple of hours.
Thanks. That was fast.
Still showing as monograph for me
Is there anything I need to do to force a metadata update?
Thanks, Graham
MIne still showing as Monograph too - about 10 hours after Kyle's last post.
I have also had two metadata updates since Kyle's post, first about 6 hours ago and second just very recently:
2015-06-26 01:02:58.3807 9 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Requesting all metadata newer than '2015-06-25T21:24:38Z'.2015-06-26 01:03:04.7767 7 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient 3 metadata info objects retrieved from service.2015-06-26 01:03:04.7937 7 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Database updated with 3 metadata info records.2015-06-26 01:03:04.7967 7 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Requesting all metadata newer than '2015-06-26T00:50:40Z'.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2267 11 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient 0 metadata info objects retrieved from service.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2287 11 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Checking metadata status against the library catalog.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2337 11 Warn LibraryCatalog No metadata found for resource 'LLS:GS_JBMW_19'.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2357 11 Warn LibraryCatalog No metadata found for resource 'LLS:GS_JBMW_17'.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2367 11 Warn LibraryCatalog No metadata found for resource 'LLS:GS_JBMW_18'.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2467 9 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Checking for resource metadata updates in 06:00:00.2015-06-26 01:03:07.2467 27 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient Requesting all community metadata with milestone greater than '640481'.2015-06-26 01:03:07.6497 27 Info ResourceMetadataUpdateServiceClient 0 community metadata records retrieved from service.
So I restarted it right now, and the metadata updated - it is now Commentary. Metadata updates are roughly every 6 hours plus at restart. So I suggest restarting yours Graham!
On Job 42:
"And yet, to come back to earth, what has happened to Job’s question? It is all very well for the poet of Job to change the discourse from rationality to delight, but humans are rational beings as well as participants in delight, and what, at the end of the day, has happened to justice? Should we not be wary of poets who sweep questions of justice under carpets of delight? And what kind of a God has our poet almost succeeded in passing off on us? Does he need to be so supercilious, so self-defensive, so prolix, so unsympathetic, and—above all—so utterly unaware of the gratuitous injustice he has done Job in putting him in the Satan’s hands with all the resultant damage to Job’s family and life and reputation? Has our poet set before us, in the magnificent sweep of the cosmic Plan, a deity who is in the end unlovely and not a little chilling? Has this deity perhaps a little too much attachment to crocodiles?" Clines, D. J. A. (2011). Job 38–42 (Vol. 18B). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson. p.1203
I am surprised to find this in an evangelical commentary. Contrast the above with NICOT:
"Filled with wonder and awe at Yahweh’s appearing, Job confesses his own unworthiness. His attention shifts from his concern for vindication to his need to prepare his heart before God. The integrity of Job’s faith shines brightly. He humbles himself before God because communion with God is more important to him than release from his affliction. It has not been wrong for him to complain, even against God himself. Nor has it been wrong for him to swear an oath of innocence. But the zealous pursuit of a right eventually erects a barrier between God and the offended person. Therefore, when God makes himself known, the supplicant must surrender everything to God, including his just grievances, if he is to avoid sinning and to find God’s favor again. Thus Job renounces all personal claims that could be construed to put himself above God. In humility he glorifies God." Hartley, J. E. (1988). The Book of Job (p. 537). Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.
I haven't had any metadata updates and WBC 18b is still a monograph.
My copy as well ... showing as monograph this morning. several restarts in the last 24 hours.
[:S]
My is working fine this morning.
Done - and its done[:)]
Thanks Don
For those who have not gotten the metadata update, you can check your log file and search for the word 'metadata' - if you search bottom of the file up, you'll find the time of the last search. I can say mine attempted an update around 1:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time without success, and it did update at 7 AM this morning on a restart. It may need to propagate to more servers in different parts of the country/world? The log file will show whether it searched and found nothing, or there was some sort of error.
Thanks for fixing this so quickly!
So I restarted it right now, and the metadata updated - it is now Commentary.
Restarting Logos 6 did the trick for me too. Thanks
I'm glad it's working. I apologize for the inconvenience.
We actually caught this before it shipped and updated it before it shipped. Unfortunately, the metadata sync was a few hours behind the resource download.
WBC is a mixed bag with some evangelical works but also other works that will not fit the definition by any stretch of the imagination.
i have been on the road and did not do my due diligence after receiving the commentary. Thanks for pointing this to us. I will have to give it a closer look and see if it has some redeeming qualities that makes it worth keeping.
It does not help that WBC is not my favorite format (to put it mildly)
Not sure what happened to me as this thread is about 3 months old, but I bought WBC 18B today and it is showing as a monograph.
Any ideas on what I should do?
Not sure what happened to me as this thread is about 3 months old, but I bought WBC 18B today and it is showing as a monograph. Any ideas on what I should do?
I also just bought the WBC but my Job is showing as expected as a Bible Commentary...
Thanks for checking Glenn. Your post inspired me to tinker a bit more. I decided to try hiding the resource, restarting Logos and unhiding it. Viola! Everything works now. No idea why but I'm glad it is. I appreciate you taking the time to check and post Glenn.
On Job 42: "And yet, to come back to earth, what has happened to Job’s question? It is all very well for the poet of Job to change the discourse from rationality to delight, but humans are rational beings as well as participants in delight, and what, at the end of the day, has happened to justice? Should we not be wary of poets who sweep questions of justice under carpets of delight? And what kind of a God has our poet almost succeeded in passing off on us? Does he need to be so supercilious, so self-defensive, so prolix, so unsympathetic, and—above all—so utterly unaware of the gratuitous injustice he has done Job in putting him in the Satan’s hands with all the resultant damage to Job’s family and life and reputation? Has our poet set before us, in the magnificent sweep of the cosmic Plan, a deity who is in the end unlovely and not a little chilling? Has this deity perhaps a little too much attachment to crocodiles?" Clines, D. J. A. (2011). Job 38–42 (Vol. 18B). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson. p.1203 I am surprised to find this in an evangelical commentary. Contrast the above with NICOT: "Filled with wonder and awe at Yahweh’s appearing, Job confesses his own unworthiness. His attention shifts from his concern for vindication to his need to prepare his heart before God. The integrity of Job’s faith shines brightly. He humbles himself before God because communion with God is more important to him than release from his affliction. It has not been wrong for him to complain, even against God himself. Nor has it been wrong for him to swear an oath of innocence. But the zealous pursuit of a right eventually erects a barrier between God and the offended person. Therefore, when God makes himself known, the supplicant must surrender everything to God, including his just grievances, if he is to avoid sinning and to find God’s favor again. Thus Job renounces all personal claims that could be construed to put himself above God. In humility he glorifies God." Hartley, J. E. (1988). The Book of Job (p. 537). Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.
I'm not sure if this will correct the issue, but try hiding that volume then unhide it. This will download a fresh copy.
Strange ... all my WBC volumes are showing as type Bible Commentary ...
On Job 42: "And yet, to come back to earth, what has happened to Job’s question? It is all very well for the poet of Job to change the discourse from rationality to delight, but humans are rational beings as well as participants in delight, and what, at the end of the day, has happened to justice? Should we not be wary of poets who sweep questions of justice under carpets of delight? And what kind of a God has our poet almost succeeded in passing off on us? Does he need to be so supercilious, so self-defensive, so prolix, so unsympathetic, and—above all—so utterly unaware of the gratuitous injustice he has done Job in putting him in the Satan’s hands with all the resultant damage to Job’s family and life and reputation? Has our poet set before us, in the magnificent sweep of the cosmic Plan, a deity who is in the end unlovely and not a little chilling? Has this deity perhaps a little too much attachment to crocodiles?" Clines, D. J. A. (2011). Job 38–42 (Vol. 18B). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson. p.1203 I am surprised to find this in an evangelical commentary. Contrast the above with NICOT: "Filled with wonder and awe at Yahweh’s appearing, Job confesses his own unworthiness. His attention shifts from his concern for vindication to his need to prepare his heart before God. The integrity of Job’s faith shines brightly. He humbles himself before God because communion with God is more important to him than release from his affliction. It has not been wrong for him to complain, even against God himself. Nor has it been wrong for him to swear an oath of innocence. But the zealous pursuit of a right eventually erects a barrier between God and the offended person. Therefore, when God makes himself known, the supplicant must surrender everything to God, including his just grievances, if he is to avoid sinning and to find God’s favor again. Thus Job renounces all personal claims that could be construed to put himself above God. In humility he glorifies God." Hartley, J. E. (1988). The Book of Job (p. 537). Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. Wow! This is the first time I've come across this thread/topic, but it's definitely timely for me as I'm evaluating my first purchases ever of WBC volumes. For me, this excerpt Paul shared seems so incredibly disrespectful of this book that I can't help but feel Clines would believe it shouldn't have ever been included in the canon. I realize things can be terribly misleading when looked at out of context, so I'll have to have a look at it myself, but if this is in fact representative of Clines view of Job, his three volumes in my library will definitely be going back within my 30 day return window.
PS: It's also worth noting that Paul's excerpt is not from Chapter 42, but from Clines' "Explanation" section for 40:6 through 41:34.
