Ellen White Writings Updated

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  • Reimar Vetne
    Reimar Vetne Member Posts: 165 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/737732#Comment_737732

    The reason that you often see codes like {DA 20.1} in PowerPoints, blog posts etc is that people are too lazy to remove them. These codes have been an unfortunate part of the electronic files since the EGW Estate made a searchable CD-Rom of her writings back in the day (maybe due to some long-gone technical aspect of the MS-DOS search software). Originally (in the printed books) there are no paragraph numbers.

    There is NO scholarly convention or style of reference that demands these paragraph numbers. No college or university, SDA or otherwise, request these paragraph numbers from their students or professors. Let us finally get rid of these codes once and for all. They mess up the text, and they also give the wrong impression that Ellen White's writings have a kind of "chapters and verses" like the Bible. Author, book-title and page-number is all that is needed in scholarly references of Ellen White's writings.

  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/737743#Comment_737743

    Reimar Vetne said:

    and they also give the wrong impression that Ellen White's writings have a kind of "chapters and verses" like the Bible. 

    Good reason to get rid of them!

  • Brian Wilson
    Brian Wilson Member Posts: 73 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/737788#Comment_737788

    To summarize what I think I am hearing--because scholars do not use EGW paragraph tags, therefore they are not valid and should be removed as "chapter and verse" notation lifts EGW's writings to the level of scripture.

    May I humbly suggest the following points.

    1. Milton and Josephus are a couple of examples where it is common to quote chapter and verse. Logos even includes the Josephus paragraph numbers. Other examples could be readily provided.

    2. The official www.egwwritings.org maintains the paragraph tags which can be turned on or off.

    3. Translators use the paragraph tags for ease of translation and sometimes publish the paragraph tags in the final text for ease of comparison.

    4. Pastors and lay people use the paragraph tags as standard EGW notation. (30 years ago in Freshman Bible class, the teacher spent more than one day teaching and then reinforcing the EGW paragraph notation.) 

    5. Among the reasons why it is standard to reference paragraph numbers in non-scholarly works (even when quoting from a dead tree source) is convenience. Not everyone is a speed reader. 

    6. I was introduced to Logos (Libronix) 15 years ago by a lay Sabbath school teacher. The underlying implication that Logos is only for seminar students who, because they are scholars, do not use paragraph tags is unfortunate.

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  • Martin Weber
    Martin Weber Member, Logos Employee Posts: 545
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/737816#Comment_737816

    This is to confirm that the White Estate did not provide paragraph numbers with the official files they sent us. We simply worked with what they gave us--page numbers only. Here's the message I just received from the head of Content Production:

    (10:57 AM) We used the PDFs as our authoritative source material. None of the paragraph numbers were present.

    Wrapping this up: I agree that it would be great to have paragraph numbers to toggle in and out of, but the updated files sent to us by the White Estate did not make that possible. Thanks for all your input.

  • Nick Clark
    Nick Clark Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    So I noticed that there is a prepub going on right now. It' here.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I already owned all these book.

    Now I'll definitely pitch in if it means all the books will now be fully tagged, book covers added, etc, but I'm wondering, If I already own these books, do I need to buy this pre-pub to get the updates? When the prepub comes out, will I all of a sudden, have doubles of each book if I buy it? Is there any more details on this?

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 9,012
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/738574#Comment_738574

    Nick Clark said:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I already owned all these book.

    If you are signed in to Logos and the purchase button in gray, then you will receive the update free of charge. I have already received some of the updated material.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • Nick Clark
    Nick Clark Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/738621#Comment_738621

    Ah, yes. It was grayed. Considering I make a living developing web applications, you would have thought I might have noticed  [;)]

  • Tim Taylor
    Tim Taylor Member Posts: 506 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/733639#Comment_733639

    I am pleasantly surprised to see that 83 more EGW books were updated! Here's the list of what was updated yesterday. If you add this to the list the 48 resources I posted on the first page of this thread, you will have a complete list of updated books so far.

    1. A Call to Service in the Master’s Harvest Field by White, Ellen Gould
    2. A Call to the Watchmen by White, Ellen Gould
    3. A Sketch of the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White by White, Ellen Gould
    4. Adventist Home by White, Ellen Gould
    5. Amazing Grace by White, Ellen Gould
    6. An Appeal by White, Ellen Gould
    7. An Appeal for Missions by White, Ellen Gould
    8. An Appeal for Self-supporting Laborers to Enter Unworked Fields by White, Ellen Gould
    9. An Appeal in Behalf of Our New Medical College by White, Ellen Gould
    10. An Appeal in Behalf of Our Work in Scandinavia by White, Ellen Gould
    11. An Appeal to Ministers and Church Officers by White, Ellen Gould
    12. An Appeal to Our Churches in Behalf of Home Missionary Work by White, Ellen Gould
    13. An Appeal to Seventh-day Adventists to Fulfill Their Duty to the South by White, Ellen Gould
    14. An Exposure of Fanaticism and Wickedness by White, Ellen Gould
    15. An Important Testimony to our Brethren and Sisters in New York by White, Ellen Gould
    16. Appeal and Suggestions to Conference Officers by White, Ellen Gould
    17. Appeal to the Young by White, Ellen Gould
    18. Appeals for Unity by White, Ellen Gould
    19. Australasian Union Conference Record by White, Ellen Gould
    20. Battle Creek Letters by White, Ellen Gould
    21. Bible Training School by White, Ellen Gould
    22. Brother Aldrich by White, Ellen Gould
    23. Child Guidance by White, Ellen Gould
    24. Choice Thoughts on Dress by White, Ellen Gould
    25. Christ’s Object Lessons by White, Ellen Gould
    26. Christian Education by White, Ellen Gould
    27. Christian Education (Periodical Sept. 1, 1909) by White, Ellen Gould
    28. Christian Leadership by White, Ellen Gould
    29. Christian Service by White, Ellen Gould
    30. Christian Temperance and Bible Hygiene by White, Ellen Gould
    31. Colporteur Ministry by White, Ellen Gould
    32. Conflict and Courage by White, Ellen Gould
    33. Counsels on Diet and Foods by White, Ellen Gould
    34. Counsels on Health by White, Ellen Gould
    35. Counsels on Sabbath School Work by White, Ellen Gould
    36. Counsels on Stewardship by White, Ellen Gould
    37. Daughters of God by White, Ellen Gould
    38. Do You Eat Flesh? by White, Ellen Gould
    39. Education by White, Ellen Gould
    40. Elder Daniels and the Fresno Church by White, Ellen Gould
    41. Ellen G. White in Europe by Delafield, D. A.
    42. Extracts from Unpublished Testimonies in Regard to Flesh Foods by White, Ellen Gould
    43. Faith and Works by White, Ellen Gould
    44. Fundamentals of Christian Education by White, Ellen Gould
    45. General Conference Daily Bulletin by White, Ellen Gould
    46. Gospel Workers, Revised and Enlarged by White, Ellen Gould
    47. Guiding Principles for the Young by White, Ellen Gould
    48. Healthful Living by White, Ellen Gould
    49. Hillcrest School Farm by White, Ellen Gould
    50. Important Testimony by White, Ellen Gould
    51. In Heavenly Places by White, Ellen Gould
    52. Instruction concerning Education by White, Ellen Gould
    53. Knowing and Obeying the Lord by White, Ellen Gould
    54. Lake Union Herald by White, Ellen Gould
    55. Last Day Events by White, Ellen Gould
    56. Life Sketches of James White and Ellen G. White by Ellen G. White Estate
    57. Loma Linda's Work by White, Ellen Gould
    58. Manuscript Release No. 728: How the Desire of Ages Was Written by Ellen G. White Estate
    59. Manuscript Release No. 926: The Fannie Bolton Story by Ellen G. White Estate
    60. Maranatha by White, Ellen Gould
    61. Messages to Young People (Pamphlet) by White, Ellen Gould
    62. Mind, Character, and Personality, Volume 2 by White, Ellen Gould
    63. Our High Calling by White, Ellen Gould
    64. Perils Increase Till Jesus Comes by White, Ellen Gould
    65. Sermons and Talks, Volume 1 by White, Ellen Gould
    66. Sketches from the Life of Paul by White, Ellen Gould
    67. Supplement to the Christian Experience and Views of Ellen G. White by White, Ellen Gould
    68. The Bible Echo—Bible Echo and Signs of the Times by White, Ellen Gould
    69. The Bible Echo—The Bible Echo by White, Ellen Gould
    70. The Central Union Outlook by White, Ellen Gould
    71. The Enlargement of Our Work by White, Ellen Gould
    72. The General Conference Bulletin by White, Ellen Gould
    73. The Home Missionary by White, Ellen Gould
    74. The Integrity of the Sanctuary Truth by Ellen G. White Estate
    75. The Judgment by White, Ellen Gould
    76. The Later Elmshaven Years by White, Arthur L.
    77. The Needs of the Cause in Australasia by White, Ellen Gould
    78. The New York Indicator by White, Ellen Gould
    79. The Northern Illinois Recorder by White, Ellen Gould
    80. The Northern Union Reaper by White, Ellen Gould
    81. The Oriental Watchman by White, Ellen Gould
    82. The Remnant Church: Its Organization, Authority, Unity, and Triumph by Ellen G. White Estate
    83. To Brother J. N. Andrews and Sister H. N. Smith by White, Ellen Gould
  • Tim Taylor
    Tim Taylor Member Posts: 506 ✭✭
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/740471#Comment_740471

    Actually I just realized I missed a batch that was updated on June 17, 2015 as well, which was this (below). If you combine these three lists then you should have the complete list.

    1. A Vision by White, Ellen Gould
    2. Acts of the Apostles by White, Ellen Gould
    3. An Appeal to Mothers by White, Ellen Gould
    4. An Appeal to the Youth by 
    5. Atlantic Union Gleaner by White, Ellen Gould
    6. Battle Creek College Record by White, Ellen Gould
    7. Christian Experience and Teachings by White, Ellen Gould
    8. Church and Sabbath School Bulletin by White, Ellen G.
    9. Confrontation by White, Ellen Gould
    10. Country Living by White, Ellen Gould
    11. East Michigan Banner by White, Ellen Gould
    12. Echoes From the Field by White, Ellen Gould
    13. Educational Messenger by White, Ellen Gould
    14. Forest Park Reporter by White, Ellen Gould
    15. Gospel Medical Messenger by White, Ellen Gould
    16. Manuscript Release No. 852: The Development of Adventist Thinking on Clean and Unclean Meats by Ellen G. White Estate
    17. Manuscript Releases, Volume 5 [Nos. 260–346, 1971–1973] by Ellen G. White Estate
    18. Manuscript Releases, Volume 9 [Nos. 664–770, 1978–1980] by Ellen G. White Estate
    19. Monthly Missionary Reading by White, Ellen Gould
    20. Our Australasian Youth and Sabbath School Guide by White, Ellen Gould
    21. Testimonies for the Church, Volume 3 by White, Ellen Gould
    22. Testimonies for the Church, Volume 5 by White, Ellen Gould
    23. Testimonies for the Church, Volume 7 by White, Ellen Gould
    24. Testimonies for the Church, Volume 8 by White, Ellen Gould
    25. Testimonies for the Church, Volume 9 by White, Ellen Gould
    26. The Advance by White, Ellen Gould
    27. The Atlantic Canvasser by White, Ellen Gould
    28. The Bible Echo—Australasian Signs of the Times by White, Ellen Gould
    29. The Canadian Union Messenger by White, Ellen Gould
    30. The Central Advance by White, Ellen Gould
    31. The Christian Educator by White, Ellen Gould
    32. The Church Officers’ Gazette by White, Ellen Gould
    33. The Day-Star by White, Ellen Gould
    34. The Good Samaritan by White, Ellen Gould
    35. The Gospel of Health by White, Ellen Gould
    36. The Hygienic Caterer by White, Ellen Gould
    37. The Indiana Reporter by White, Ellen Gould
    38. The Medical Evangelist by White, Ellen Gould
    39. The Messenger by White, Ellen Gould
    40. The Minnesota Worker by White, Ellen Gould
    41. The Missionary Magazine by White, Ellen G.
    42. The Missionary Worker by White, Ellen G.
    43. The Nebraska Reporter by White, Ellen Gould
    44. The Southern Missionary by White, Ellen Gould
    45. The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1 by White, Ellen Gould
    46. The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 3 by White, Ellen Gould
    47. To the Little Remnant Scattered Abroad by White, Ellen Gould
    48. To Those Who Are Receiving the Seal of the Living God by White, Ellen Gould

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