Bible Sense Lexicon

Fred Chapman
Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

It would be useful to have a search like: <Sense CONTAINS pray> (pray being just an example). This could essentially find all occurrences of senses where the string "pray" occurs in the label for the sense. It would be helpful for someone to conduct a search that contains all of the different senses associated with the topic.

See this thread for background https://community.logos.com/forums/p/106683/740403.aspx#740403

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,306

    Agreed - this would be very helpful[Y]

  • William Gabriel
    William Gabriel Member Posts: 1,091 ✭✭

    [Y]

  • Rick Ausdahl
    Rick Ausdahl Member Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭

    Fredc said:

    It would be useful to have a search like: <Sense CONTAINS pray> (pray being just an example). This could essentially find all occurrences of senses where the string "pray" occurs in the label for the sense. It would be helpful for someone to conduct a search that contains all of the different senses associated with the topic.

    See this thread for background https://community.logos.com/forums/p/106683/740403.aspx#740403

    YES!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,586

    Agreed with caveats ... this is not a request for an expansion of the BSL but a request to overlay the BSL with semantic domain coding which is a very good idea.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Schumitinu
    Schumitinu Member Posts: 570 ✭✭

    Fredc said:

    It would be useful to have a search like: <Sense CONTAINS pray> (pray being just an example). This could essentially find all occurrences of senses where the string "pray" occurs in the label for the sense. It would be helpful for someone to conduct a search that contains all of the different senses associated with the topic.

    See this thread for background https://community.logos.com/forums/p/106683/740403.aspx#740403

    Yes, and please allow this search to be used in Visual Filters as well!

  • Eli Evans (Logos)
    Eli Evans (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,411

    As described, I think that <Sense CONTAINS pray> would miss "to petition", "to intercede (petition)", and "supplication".

    We have been working on adding some domain semantics to the Bible Sense Lexicon. The Factbook has "Senses" and in some cases "Domain" sections that list associated senses to the key topic. For example, the Factbook entry for "Prayer" lists a good number of associated senses. (Thought probably not all the ones you could possibly imagine. The boundaries of the "tennis problem" that MJ mentioned are fuzzy.)

    I suspect that will make its way into some search features in the future. Nothing concrete enough that I can talk about it, but I'm making note of this (and the other) thread.

    In the meantime, for searching and visual filters, OR is the answer: <Sense to pray> OR <Sense to pray (petition)> OR <Sense to pray ⇔ beg> OR <Sense supplication> OR  <Sense to answer (prayer)> ...