Hello
I don't know if this has been brought up yet, so I will ask...Is LOGOS 6 Win 10 ready?
Thank You
Paul
All indications from the Win10 open evaluation is that Logos works very well on it.
It was discussed most recently here: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/113086.aspx
Logos has been working on pre-release versions Windows 10. If the final release doesn't introduce new complications (something that has happened in the past), then it will work on that version too.
I'll be upgrading to Win10 as soon as it's released, but not without a smidgen or two of anxiety.
I have been running 10 on all my machines for over 2 months now. MSFT is not adding any more machines to the preview family. The rumor mill says that the build we have now is the RTM. (10240) I just don't see them making any 11th hour changes that would cause major failures. Try to relax. I predict you will truly enjoy the new OS.
What I want to know is how Windows 10 will impact Logos 6 on my Surface Pro 3.
I find 10 an improvement on both of my touch screen machines. I suspect you will have a similar experience. If anything, Logos runs more smoothly on 10.
If this is my experience, will be dancing a jig. [<:o)]
If this is my experience, will be dancing a jig.
[:P]
Since the very beginning of Public Preview version of Windows 10 I run it on my 2 notebooks and use Logos especially on my main notebook without any problems. I like Windows 10 much better then W 8.1.
P.S. I use Windows 10 also on my phone - but... no Logos there, as for now.
This echoes what I've been reading and the sentiments of those who've been using Win10, and this makes me quite confident about getting Win10 on the first day (I've not been testing it in beta).
However, if the initial release of Win10 goes off without a blowing up something significant somewhere, it will be a first for Microsoft. And this gives me a smidgen or two of anxiety.
Which phone? Is it buggy?
I tried the TP when it was first released and I rolled back because it was crashing my phone constantly.
Sneaky and clever. Microsoft has downloaded the files in a hidden folder on the c$windows~BT. For Win 7 Pro, the files is 5.6 but the Windows 7 home file is 145 MB. Does not seem to have completed downloading as yet.
Might be the reason why my connection seemed sluggish lately. The Pro machine was the first one to register.
Just completed the upgrade. Logos runs great on it, though the indexing notification in the new Notification Centre might get annoying soon.
How did the upgrade go?
Thanks for all the input, fam!!
2 quick questions:
1) Will the update to W10 mean we have to install/reinstall all programs (like Logos)
2) Is the tiles screen completely gone? I know it was a little strange getting used to it, but I've grown to like the setup (quick access points to programs, etc.).
Thanks!
rs
1) No the upgrade will preserve files and programs. There may be some utilities that are incompatible that may have need to be updated, but this will not affect applications such as Office or Logos.
2) The start screen has been combined into the new start menu that is a bit of a mix between Windows 7 and 10. Personally, I find it a big improvement over both 7 & 8, but this is an area that is very subjective so your mileage may vary.The best way to understand the changes is through pictures. The following article has pictures of the new features as well as answers a lot of questions:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers/
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From the Windows Blog:
"Thank you to our Windows Insiders for helping us build Windows 10. If you’re a Windows Insider and running build 10240 – you already have the Windows 10 we are making available today."
So as I speculated above, The build the insiders have been using for 2 weeks is the "final build"....RTM. It is rock solid, and what they dreamed fantasized Vista/7/8 would be.
P.S. I use Windows 10 also on my phone - but... no Logos there, as for now. Which phone? Is it buggy? I tried the TP when it was first released and I rolled back because it was crashing my phone constantly.
I Use Nokia Lumia 830. Yes, you are right. First Preview builds had been very unstable. The current one looks quite well and I have very few crushes. I use it as my main phone.
Thanks. I wasn't aware of this.
How much space does it take up?
I have an aging I3 Win7 machine with 8MB ram and plenty of hard drive space. Would WIN10 load faster, be faster on my machine, thus apps as well (perhaps WIN10 does more with less overhead)? I was just going to stick with WIN7 but this thread has me wondering. Thanks!
It is rock solid, and what they dreamed fantasized Vista/7/8 would be.
I installed Windows 10 today, and have had quite a few problems. It certainly hasn't been an easy upgrade. My issues include:
Logos was fine, though!
I truly am sorry you had such a bad morning. It's strange some folks have no issues, and others have a multitude.[:(]
Admitting my addiction makes me blush. [:$] ....I have quite a stable of windows machines. I loaded 10 on all of them months ago, and have not had any of the issues you are plagued by.
I installed Windows 10 today, and have had quite a few problems. It certainly hasn't been an easy upgrade.
Thanks for that preview, Mark. I'm thinking now that I might wait until the weekend when I'll have more time.
I too have older i3 laptop with only 4GB RAM. Win 8 is faster loading that Win 7. I would expect the same for Win 10, maybe better. We will see.
I too am sorry you had challenges....i installed Win 10 early this am with no challenges so far. I haven't tested everything yet, so I am reserving judgement until I can try everything out including all prior installed apps, i.e., Logos....
I updated my Surface Pro 3 last night. It was a smooth process. Logos is up and running and the OS looks great!
I find it strange that I registered my older Acer machine for the upgrade long before the newer Toshiba which is presently upgrading but the Acer is not.
My kids are excited. The folder on my Acer has a July 10 date and the Toshiba July 28.
Windows 10 should boot faster than 7, and a perhaps even a little bit faster than 8. Windows 8 had about half the memory footprint of 7, and 10 is about the same so in day to day running there will likely be little difference between 8 and 10's performance with the exception of some video based applications if you have a supported DirectX 12 video card.
Now for the warning. An old machine won't have manufacturer's drivers for Windows 10 so you may have to use the ones from Microsoft. These generally work okay, but may not perform optimally. For an example, on one of my machines, the sound worked with basic Windows 10 driver, but wasn't nearly as loud as it was supposed to be. Some Windows 7 drivers may not work properly. If the machine has Windows 8 drivers available from the manufacturer (such as cases where a machine was downgraded to 7), then there is a higher likelihood these will work fine.
Just some things to consider.
It is rock solid, and what they dreamed fantasized Vista/7/8 would be. I installed Windows 10 today, and have had quite a few problems. It certainly hasn't been an easy upgrade. My issues include: The standard install kept getting stuck so I had to download and install from the .ISO file. Graphics driver didn't install, so I had to install it manually. My brand new USB 802.11ac network adaptor doesn't have a working Windows 10 driver. Microsoft Office needed to be repaired. Several programs wouldn't work at all and had to be reinstalled: iTunes, Kaspersky Total Internet, Samsung Magician. Most of my shareware programs lost their licencing, and had to be reinstalled (they wouldn't even allow me to re-enter the licence code). This includes Revo Uninstaller, SIW Pro, and several others. My default sound card and microphone got changed to something I don't use, so I had no sound. Logos was fine, though!
That's a bummer Mark. I installed the upgrade this morning with no issues at all. So far I have not discovered any problems.
Windows 7 Home Premium started the process then reverted back to 7 Home. Noticed that there were some updates waiting to be installed on shut down. Did that, going to have another go at it.
The Windows 10 app also said that it was downloading. Thought the 6.5 GB was all that was necessary. It is inviting me to view the download progress bar, but nothing happening, and the Task Manger is not showing any network activity.
Logos 6 - Perfectly working on Windows 10!
I'm having issues here as well, windows update failed with an obscure error code. Might have to do with a bits issue on my existing machine, or could be a corrupt file...
I think that's at the heart of my problem. To be fair I was having Windows Update problems in Windows 8, but I hoped the upgrade might solve them. It looks like the upgrade relies on Windows Update, which is why I've had so many issues.
At the moment, I can't even activate Windows, so I'm on the phone to Microsoft.
Had to install updates twice under Windows 7.
Clicked the Win 10 app it asked me to try again noting the windows failure.
Now downloading 2.7 GB of info. This did not happen the first time.
Interesting. Acer Veriton X 275 is not listed as being supported for an upgrade to Win. 10
http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/windows10-eligible-models
To be fair I was having Windows Update problems in Windows 8
I've had ***a lot*** of Windows Update and BITS problems, and other problems for services that run in the same process. This is in Windows 8.1 on multiple machines. One of the problems in trying to get these things working again is that a normal shutdown / restart is a "hybrid" one, which means it basically saves the state of things and comes back up to that point (at the level of Windows). Thus, even process IDs will be the same.
Two things have generally worked for me:
1) Use the command line shutdown: shutdown /r /f /t 0The /r is the main option, as it bypasses the hybrid restart.
2) Figure out the process (PID) in which the Windows Update (or other offending) service is running - it's always been a service in the same process that's given me problems. Use Task Manager to kill the process - i.e. *not* stop the service(s). Then do the restart.
Maybe this will help someone,
Donnie
I get an error that ends in A000 I forget the first bit, and am not in front of the pc. I restarted the windows update and bits services, rebooted, and told it to try again. Will remote in again here in a little bit and see if it succeeded.
Can you be more specific about why it might get annoying? What don't you like about it?
Just completed the upgrade. Logos runs great on it, though the indexing notification in the new Notification Centre might get annoying soon. Can you be more specific about why it might get annoying? What don't you like about it?
So far I have upgraded my desktop and Surface Pro 2 without any problems. I made sure all updates with Microsoft and drivers were done on all machines. Then the upgrade to 10, and already had a few updates for 10, I assume to address problems others sent in so far. I looked at my notifications tab and I have had no notices for Logos 6 indexing whatsoever. Five (5) more machines to go....
I assumed that he just meant the size of the notification:
Logos works fine for me in Windows 10 when outside tablet mode. But when in tablet mode, the toolbars do not appear. I see the bottom part of the program where the Scripture/book text is. But all of the tabs and tool bars are gone. I see the desktop image where I should see the tabs and toolbars.
I'm running Logos 6 on a Surface Pro 2.
up and running with 10. outside of needing to re-install logos (like how its downloading resources while i am using it by the way) its been smooth. fwiw its my fault i had to re-install logos.
Logos works fine for me in Windows 10 when outside tablet mode. But when in tablet mode, the toolbars do not appear. I see the bottom part of the program where the Scripture/book text is. But all of the tabs and tool bars are gone. I see the desktop image where I should see the tabs and toolbars. I'm running Logos 6 on a Surface Pro 2.
Did you open Logos 6 while in tablet mode? Mine does that if I open it in tablet mode. But if I open Logos 6 in desktop mode then switch to tablet mode, I have no issues with this bug.
Edit: I'm on a Surface Pro 3
If it does, you can right click on notifications in the action center and turn them off on a per app basis.
Thanks for the tip. I just tried what you suggested, and it works for me as well as long as I keep Logos 6 full screen when I switch back to tablet mode. If I snap another app alongside Logos, it as if Logos doesn't know how to resize properly in tablet mode.
To be fair I was having Windows Update problems in Windows 8 I've had ***a lot*** of Windows Update and BITS problems, and other problems for services that run in the same process. This is in Windows 8.1 on multiple machines. One of the problems in trying to get these things working again is that a normal shutdown / restart is a "hybrid" one, which means it basically saves the state of things and comes back up to that point (at the level of Windows). Thus, even process IDs will be the same. Two things have generally worked for me: 1) Use the command line shutdown: shutdown /r /f /t 0The /r is the main option, as it bypasses the hybrid restart. Maybe this will help someone, Donnie
Thanks Donnie, that helped me! I thought I was seeing things this afternoon, when I know I shut the laptop down last night, but the light was on. I could not get it up and running, except to hold the button down for about 10 seconds until it shut off. After that initial instance of it going into hybrid state, it now completely shuts downs, not sure why though.
Logos works very nicely, and faster than 8.1, restarts and start up take about 15 seconds..
Ralph
Hey Roger,
Good to hear, as I have a Surface 2 pro, too.
How do you like it? What does the Windows button on the bottom of the screen do w/W10? Would you recommend it?
Also, when you open a "Windows store app" or the calculator, can you dock it and have the desktop be side by side like we are in W8? Or do all "apps" that we use to be able to that w/only open as "a program" in the taskbar?
Oh...and does anyone know if Logos will continue to work on/develop a Windows based app? I seem to remember seeing and committing to a "pre-pub" for it way back when and am curious if it's still on.
I think I got use to the start/tiles start screen (esp. w/all the shortcuts) and am dragging my feet to take the plunge.
Thankful for this community!!
EDIT/UPDATE: After looking at community pricing bids
For all us Windows users --- let's let Logos know we want the app done, huh?!?
https://www.logos.com/product/50060/windows-universal-bible-app
We have two machines on Windows 8. The ONLY thing I like better about 8 is the much improved text to speech. If that is still good in 10, then I would upgrade.
