Restoration Movement Base Package

In the recent discussion of whether to name the forthcoming Pentecostal/Charismatic base package Pentecostal or Charismatic, a Logos employee noted a preference for targeting base packages at specific named groups (e.g., Lutherans, Anglicans) and bundles/packages for theological currents. Might this project be better as a series of sized bundles?

SineNomine said:

a preference for targeting base packages at specific named groups

Most members of these churches just go by the name "Christian." That would be a nondescript name for a base package. If these publications are only offered in add-ons, I doubt many would buy any of the current base packages. There is almost no doctrinal overlap between them.

MJ. Smith said:

SineNomine said:

Might this project be better as a series of sized bundles?

Perhaps, but I think a base package is more appropriate. I find a figure of 7 million restoration movement world-wide. But then again I'd prefer that the 7th Day Adventist package be Millerite.

At that rate, Eastern Catholics deserve their own base package. But I think you'd be good with that. (So would I.)

Wait...I don't get it. Don't we already have a Reformation package? Do we need a Restoration package, too? Did the fix not fix what needed being fixed?

It seems particularly odd that the ways of YHWH are constantly in need of a handy man.

David Paul said:

It seems particularly odd that the ways of YHWH are constantly in need of a handy man.

The ways of YHWH  do not need a handy man as they are set for all eternity.  It is we, the creation of YHWH, that have some minor problems in finding the 'one and only true' path. That is why we are split some 40,009 ways.

David Ames said:

David Paul said:

It seems particularly odd that the ways of YHWH are constantly in need of a handy man.

The ways of YHWH  do not need a handy man as they are set for all eternity.  It is we, the creation of YHWH, that have some minor problems in finding the 'one and only true' path. That is why we are split some 40,009 ways.

While it is a daunting task to try coming up with a list of EVERYTHING I would like to see in such a package, here is my starter list, which is by no means complete. If Logos were to offer a package offering these resources, I would be VERY interested in it.

Apologetics Press Articles

Many of these articles are probably already available in the various publications put out by Apologetics Press that are also on this list.

http://apologeticspress.org/APTopicsList.aspx?pub=1

http://apologeticspress.org/ContactUs.aspx

Apologetics Press Books

While they do not do this for their entire catalog, many of their books are offered for free in PDF form.

http://apologeticspress.org/PDF-books.aspx

http://apologeticspress.org/ContactUs.aspx

Bellview Church of Christ Lectureship Books

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1975.

http://www.bellviewcoc.com/lectures.php

http://www.bellviewcoc.com/

Bob Winton Outlined Commentaries

Commentary set covering the Old and New Testaments. Unfortunately, I could not find direct contact information for Bob Winton, whom I **believe** self-publishes. The best I could do was find a link to a vendor. However, I **believe** the vendor's list of available volumes may not reflect all of Bob Winton's writings.

http://www.tuckersbooks.com/cobw.php

Christian Courier Articles

These are mostly (if not exclusively) written by Wayne Jackson and are available for free.

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles

https://www.christiancourier.com/contact

Complete Library of Foy E. Wallace

This is actually the tile of a CD that includes the following works by Foy E. Wallace:

A Review of the New Versions

The Book of Revelation

Bulwarks of the Faith

The Christian and the Civil Government

Commentary on Romans, Galatians & Ephesians

Current Issues

Evaluation of the New International Version

God's Prophetic Word

The Gospel For Today

The Instrumental Music Question

Mission and Medium of the Holy Spirit

The Neal-Wallace Discussion

Number One Gospel Sermons

The Plain Truth About the Revised Version

The Story of the Fort Worth Norris-Wallace Debate

Sermon on the Mount and the Civil State

The Present Truth

King James Version of the Bible

A Large Photographic Section

Articles Appearing in Gospel Magazines: Gospel Advocate Editorials (1930-1934); Gospel Guardian (1935-1936); Bible Banner (1938-1949); Torch (1950-1951)

The copyright says Foy E. Wallace, Jr. Publications, but I have not found a specific website for the publisher (and am not even sure if they are still in business). The link provided below is simply for an online vendor.

http://www.ceibooks.com/reference-materials/church-history/biographies/complete-library-of-foy-e-wallace-cd-rom/

Discovery Magazine

A monthly Christian evidences magazine by Apologetics Press for kids. Issues are already available online for free in PDF format.

http://apologeticspress.org/DiscoveryArchiveIndex.aspx

http://apologeticspress.org/ContactUs.aspx

Florida School of Preaching Lectureship Books (South Florida Avenue Church of Christ)

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1994.

http://www.fsop.net/Lectureships/booksandmedia.html

http://www.fsop.net/contact.html

Fortify Your Faith

Publisher affiliated with Christian Courier (see above). Books for sale on Christian Courier link here. The website appears to be undergoing maintenance right now, but I **believe** this is the publisher Logos would need to contact regarding obtaining the rights of any of the many books published by Wayne Jackson.

http://www.fortifyyourfaithbookstore.org/

Freed-Hardeman University Lectureship Books

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1953.

http://www.fhu.edu/lectureship/index.aspx

http://www.fhu.edu/lectureship/contactus.aspx

Focus Press Articles

I would suspect that many of these articles would be included in Think Magazine (see below) .

http://www.focuspress.org/Articles.html

Gospel Advocate

Publishes a wide range of material affiliated with the churches of Christ, including a complete New Testament commentary set. Some of their material appears to be available in digital format already.

http://stores.gospeladvocate.com/

James Burton Coffman Commentaries

Commentary set on covering both the Old and New Testaments. As far as I know, these are currently available electronically in two formats. They can be viewed online for free one chapter at a time or they can be purchased for use with Theophilos. Looks like Abilene Christian University Press is the publisher.

http://www.studylight.org/commentaries/bcc/

http://www.theophilos.com/products.htm

http://www.acu.edu/campusoffices/acupress/

Memphis School of Preaching Lectureship Books (Forest Hill Church of Christ)

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1982.

http://www.msop.org/lectures.php

http://www.msop.org/foresthill.php

National Christian Press

Publisher with the rights to various books by Thomas B. Warren.

http://www.nationalchristianpress.net/NCPcatalog.pdf

http://www.nationalchristianpress.net/about.html

Power Lectureship Books (Southaven Church of Christ)

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1989.

http://southavencoc.org/?page_id=173

Reason & Revelation

A monthly journal by Apologetics Press on Christian evidences for adults. Issues are already available online for free in PDF format.

http://apologeticspress.org/APArchiveIndex.aspx?pub=1

http://apologeticspress.org/ContactUs.aspx

Sain Publications

Publisher affiliated with the churches of Christ. I do not readily see any resources already available in PDF format on their website, so I have simply provided the link to their catalog.

Http://sainpublications.com/catalog/

Schertz Church of Christ Lectureship Books

The Schertz lectureship was previously known as the Denton Lectureship. This is important to know because the Schertz/Denton lectureship books work together to form a set. Each year the lectureship has focused on one or more specific books of the Bible. When the books are taken together, they essentially form a commentary set. I know that there is a CD available with these books in electronic form, but I do not know how far back they go.

http://www.schertzcofc.org/lectureship/2013/lectureship2013.htm

http://www.schertzcofc.org/

Science Vs. Evolution (Vance Ferrell)

This is not affiliated with the churches of Christ as far as I know. It is just a resource that I have found to be helpful and that I included here because it is available online for free. It is actually an expanded version of another book by Vance Ferrell called The Evolution Cruncher (which is available for free in PDF from the same website).

http://evolutionfacts.com/sci-ev-PDF/sci_vs_ev_PDF.htm

Shenandoah Church of Christ Lectureship Books

These are available on CD in PDF form. I believe the electronic copies go back to 1987.

http://www.shenandoahcofc.org/lectureship.html

http://www.shenandoahcofc.org/index.html

Spiritual Sword Lectureship Books (Getwell Church of Christ)

From what I can tell, these books are not available to the public in PDF form. I would **assume** they still exist in digital form somewhere, but I cannot confirm this, as I have not spoken to anyone at the Getwell Church of Christ about it. This is the same congregation that puts out the Spiritual Sword quarterlies (see below), and those are available on CD as PDFs. If the Spiritual Sword lectureship books are also in a digital format somewhere, they could potentially go back to 1976.

http://www.getwellchurchofchrist.org/the-spiritual-sword-lectureship

http://www.getwellchurchofchrist.org/locations/church-building

Spiritual Sword Quarterlies

A 48-page quarterly that addresses a wide range of topics. While not free to download, the website indicates issues are available digitally on a CD.

http://www.getwellchurchofchrist.org/the-spiritual-sword/the-spiritual-sword-quarterlies-topics

http://www.getwellchurchofchrist.org/locations/church-building

Think Magazine

Christian magazine the covers a wide range of topics. Issues are available to download, but they are not free.

http://www.focuspress.org/

TLC Publishing

Publisher dedicated to “Preserving Restoration Movement Materials.” In looking over the website, I found “125+ Debates in PDF.” I do not see any information about who owns the rights to this work, but that sounds like something that would be a welcome addition to Logos.

http://tomchilders.net/store/debates-in-pdf/?menuid=9

http://tomchilders.net/

Truth for Today Commentary Series

Commentary set covering both the Old and New Testaments. Published by Resource Publications.

http://www.resourcepublications.net/index.php?page=series

Truth in Love Lectureship Books (East Hill Church of Christ)

Unlike most of the lectureship books on this list, these are available for free in PDF. The books go back to 1992.

http://www.easthillchurch.org/TIL_Books.html

Valor & Virtue

A Christian evidences magazine by Apologetics Press for teens. There only appear to be two issues so far, but both are available online for free.

http://apologeticspress.org/v2.aspx

http://apologeticspress.org/ContactUs.aspx

James, thank you for starting this thread.

Gabe Martini said:

Thanks everyone for these suggestions. We will look into how we can better serve our Restoration movement users. Pointing out specific publishers, authors, etc. definitely helps.

Gabe,

Please consider this "quick fix" for now.  I think Logos would sell them like hot pancakes! [:P]

DAL

The following is a list of some of the books that I am interested in setting in this package, etc.:

All commentaries by Jim McGuiggan.  The publisher for at least one of the commentaries is Montex Publishing Company,  Lubbock, TX 79407

A Commentary on Daniel by Homer Hailey. Nevada Publications, Las Vegas, Nevada.
Hailey's Comments by Homer Hailey Nevada Publications, Las Vegas, Nevada
He also wrote a commentary on the Minor Prophets and Revelation that would be excellent.  I would be interested in anything he wrote

Robert Harkrider has written several topical studies/workbooks:
I Sought For a Man
Building Strong Homes
Basic Bible Doctrines 1, 2, 3, 4
Also, he has written several textual studies (Commentary/workbook).  IIP (Impressive Image Production) Robert Harkrider has the copyrights on these books.

Truth Commentaries published by Guardian of Truth Foundation

Instrumental Music in the Worship by M. C. Kurfees

Gospel Advocate Commentaries published by Gospel Advocate

New Testament History: Acts - Reese College Press

What the Bible Says series  - College Press

More later

"The Gospel Plan of Salvation" by T. W. Brents

Gabe said:

Thanks everyone for these suggestions. We will look into how we can better serve our Restoration movement users. Pointing out specific publishers, authors, etc. definitely helps.

Is there any movement on this front? Does Logos have any plans to create a Restoration Movement Base Package? Thanks [:)]

Me too.

I know there are others more qualified than myself who would love to point Logos in a certain direction as far as authors, publishers, and specific titles (though I’d gladly contribute to such lists as have already been started if it would help), but if commenting here adds fuel to the fire, then allow me to comment:

Logos/Faithlife, please consider either a Restoration Movement Base Package or at least a set of Bundles for that constituency.

Jay Guin, University Church of Christ, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, whose blog (oneinjesus.info) is high in traffic also has an “in” with Logos. They have provided him Base Packages and resources free of charge in exchange for review. According to this post just yesterday, he’s offered to help them “curate” a collection like we’re seeking, but without any result … yet.

Faithlife/Logos could even put the Restoration Movement Base Package on Pre-Pub to gauge the sincerity of all.

Many restoration customers have probably resisted purchasing base packages. The existing packages contain too many books they are doctrinally in disagreement. A more focused base package for this market will draw customers who have resisted and remained sidelined.

Logos successfully tapped into the Seventh Day Adventists market by creating a tailored base package.  A similar approach will help fuel Logo’s continued growth. 

MJ. Smith said:

I suspect that Gabe is simply over-worked rather than disinterested in a Restoration package. You might contact him (not badger him, please) to see what could be done to move this forward.

Good point. Perhaps on vacation.

Thomas B. Warren Collection (28 vols.)  $124.99