David Kirk Davis said:

Let me be the first to complain that a five percent discount doesn't warrant a month of hype.   

Of course, any discount is better than no discount.  However, I totally agree with you.  Nothing exciting about this at all.

I agree that 5% isn't worth shouting about. For many people, however, it's the dynamic pricing that is the most attractive part of this 'sale'.

There are a few exciting pieces. The Judges volume is discounted to $9.99. That is a really good deal and one I had been refusing to pay $40 for. Unfortunately the new Joshua volumes are not available separately. Those were the three Word volumes that I wanted - one out three is not bad for Zondervan. The upgraded volumes (besides Joshua) are also cheap, if you wanted upgraded volumes. But at the end of the day, I was hoping for more as well. But I'll take the one bargain to the bank. Besides, I am right at my yearly book budget with three months to go. [:#]

Michael Childs said:

David Kirk Davis said:

Let me be the first to complain that a five percent discount doesn't warrant a month of hype.   

Of course, any discount is better than no discount.  However, I totally agree with you.  Nothing exciting about this at all.

It's sad to say, but I agree with you both!!!

I had set aside some funds for this. Now I get to spend them elsewhere. Then again I always tend to see the cup half full.

I will add my $0.02 worth. Besides possibly an odd WBC volume or two, I will be observing the passover on this sale. I was going to pick up several titles if the discount was deep enough, but 5% is nowhere near enough to get me excited. 

Bruce Dunning said:

Mark Barnes said:

I agree that 5% isn't worth shouting about.

Agreed. It actually was rather disappointing.

Mark Barnes said:

For many people, however, it's the dynamic pricing that is the most attractive part of this 'sale'.

Yes.

That's where I came down also. I was scanning through the books and kept seeing "5%" and just starting laughing. Good grief.

The dynamic pricing is a good thing, but unfortunately, the collections are still way too expensive for me.

Until Faithlife gets their act together I will not participate in "sales."

A Faithlife employee said the sale price on the Zondervan-Nelson Bundle Sale would remain static through September. He was woefully misinformed. I was going to buy the mega combo bundle. Purchase cancelled. 

I won't point out that searching across a popular vendors website (which starts with A, and offers a digital device with a name reminiscent of a type of thin wood used to start fires) one might find a number of Thomas Nelson Libronix titles still available for sale for pennies on the dollar, and others that are of more value for sale ~80% cheaper.

The MacArthur bundle for instance (interesting to me since you can't buy many of his commentaries in Logos any more) in both its 1.0 and 2.0 iterations can both be had (At this moment) for less than 100$ together, the normal price is 529$ (not sure the sale price).

The Jimmy Swagert collection (one I'm not really interested in) costs the same as ONE jimmy swaggert title from logos directly. I'm sure there are other deals, and maybe some better deals....

John Fidel said:

Just curious why NIVAC at 9.99 per volume is a good deal, but WBC at the same price isn't? WBC is more highly rated by many of the commentary review websites including www.bestcommentaries.com

My comments were in reference to the overall sale. 

The overall sale is very weak in savings. Simply put, it is very disappointing. This sale had a couple weeks of hype and, once again, a let down.

Also, the sale page only mentions that you can save $35 on the entire set (not much of a sale considering the price). It conceals the fact that if you buy the volumes individually, you will probably come out ahead (I haven't bothered looking at each individual volume and doing the math). I don't know why Faithlife would not tell its customers this or at least discount the set to a more equal price as the individual volumes would be.

The unadvertised NIVAC sale was a stand alone sale and had very good overall savings.

Matthew said:

Glenn (or anyone else, for that matter), can you comment on whether the 10% back in Logos credit is for individual volumes of WBC or whether it is only for those who buy the entire 62 volume set? 10% credit on the 62 volume set is almost completely nullified for me due to the simple fact that it costs more to buy the whole set than to individually buy the volumes I still need.

The credit is for exactly the purpose you mentioned--for customers who buy the 62 volume set, which, as you noted, was more than the individual titles combined. That way, customers who go all the way with the 62 volume set still get a great deal.

Glenn Airoldi said:

Danny Parker said:

Unfortunately the new Joshua volumes are not available separately. Those were the three Word volumes that I wanted - one out three is not bad for Zondervan.

We've just finished making the Second Edition Joshua and 2 Corinthians volumes available for purchase individually at the sale prices.  

As Glenn has mentioned, here are the volumes on Joshua and 2nd Corinthians:

https://www.logos.com/product/54546/word-biblical-commentary-volume-40-2-corinthians

https://www.logos.com/product/54541/word-biblical-commentary-volume-7a-joshua-1-12

https://www.logos.com/product/54545/word-biblical-commentary-volume-7b-joshua-13-24

I put the abc 62 vols into the cart an hour ago ... About $39 for four volumes ... It is now in my cart for $62 ... What is happening?

Did I read some where that the WBC was going to double in price after the sale?

I currently have a payment plan that I want to quickly pay off. Several times over the past few months I have received emails from different FL sales people offering to extend my plan with resources in my wish list. Their pitch is that my monthly outlay will change little, but I can extend to 21 months. The WBC would fall in this type of situation if I wanted.

In your opinion, is this series worth the "jump" for a Sunday School Teacher? I currently have the Platinum Standard.

Tim Taylor said:

Gerald said:

Did I read some where that the WBC was going to double in price after the sale?

I spoke with a Logos sales representative on the phone a couple of weeks ago and he told me that this is true. He said that at the end of Sept., the WBC will double on the regular sale price.

Doubling the price smells like opportunism by Zondervan; I really should have learned my lesson about Zondervan after Pradis.

Erik said:

It's definitely broken

No, it is the new way Faithlife runs a "sale" - keep raising prices.[N]

Possibly ... But both sections showed four new resources each ... And in the time since my last post the price for those four volumes has gone up again, this time to $126 dollars ...

Earlier comparisons on to the NIVAC sale suggest a per volume hike from about $10 to $32 in the space of a couple of hours.

It was offered at a proper sale price,I accepted that offer, but the offer was amended by FL whilst it was in my basket (actually looking to see if there were any other items that were genuinely in a sale) ...

it it gets harder each year to recommend logos to anybody ... Too expensive unless you were in at the start ... Before l4.

[Y]

Thank you ... 

Thank you for these details.  However, it doesn't explain why prices jumped from $32 to $117 for the 62 vol. set when I owned all but three of the resources.  This morning when the prices was in the $30 range for me, the 2nd ed. of 2 Cor. was in the package. 

I still think FL needs to look at its dynamic pricing on the 62 vol. set; the pricing according to your math would mean I am missing 10 resources and that is simply not the case. I've since purchased the three individual vols. and decided that the 10% credit isn't worth the hassle.

Doc B said:

You might want to look closer, then, at what your students are paying. Those free copies aren't free.

In my experience, academic publishers with liberal exam copy policies charge much more for equivalent texts.

No doubt, students cringe at textbook prices. However, when you compare Zondervan to Baker (two of the biggest theological suppliers), an Old or New Testament introduction runs about $40. That's relatively cheap compared to other big education publishers.

Friedrich said:

 Anyway, while I am disappointed in the hype not matching reality, I still blame Z way more than Logos marketing.

I blame Z for being stingy with a measly 5% discount. But I blame Faithlife Marketing for the worst roll-out of a sale in the company's history.  By September 1 9am we had already seen 5 price increases and one decrease.