I had had NA28 with $99.99 in my wish list and while I checked John's question I saw the picture below and guess what I purchased. The UBS5 did not come with apparatus - as I expected, but I don't care: Now I've got NA28 with the apparatus as a bonus in this order. I dare to recommend this deal for all who have the old SESB set.
UBS5 Apparatus Coming Soon?
John Kight
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Just out of curiosity, when are we going to receive The Greek New Testament, Fifth Revised Edition (with apparatus)? According to the newly released Stuttgart Scholarly Editions: Old and New Testament (29 vols.) it is already available. Is this an oversight, or something to anticipate? Hopefully, for the sake of many of us, it is the latter.
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I had had NA28 with $99.99 in my wish list and while I checked John's question I saw the picture below and guess what I purchased. The UBS5 did not come with apparatus - as I expected, but I don't care: Now I've got NA28 with the apparatus as a bonus in this order. I dare to recommend this deal for all who have the old SESB set.
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Wow, thanks guys for telling! A great deal I knew nothing about and found irresistible immediately.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Yeah, it's a great deal! Now how about that UBS5 Apparatus Faithlife?
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The small 17 volume set includes the "UBS5 (with morphology)"
If you look at the lower section of the 29 volume collection, where it includes "more details", the UBS5 says "with morphology" with no mention of the apparatus.
Rob
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Rob said:
The small 17 volume set includes the "UBS5 (with morphology)"
This is in the resource pictures as well as in the "more details" section that lists resource pages. The text of what is included in the 17 volumes states "with apparatus", just as in the large bundle:
Since currently there is no UBS 5 apparatus in Logos, the webpage is in error. However, it could be that we bought it. Faithlife in the past sold licenses to products to be produced in the future as part of bundles like this, or base packages, but then usually there was a star remark *) saying licence included, product will follow. Sometimes this may take years (BHS with Richter morphology, some parts of BHQ)
Either this star is lacking at both bundles' product pages (and a not-yet developed resource will not have a resource page to link to in the bottom), or the description is wrong and should be updated to say 'with morphology' instead of 'with apparatus'.
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I'd say the upper description is an err.
Look again - If you look at the lower section of the 29 volume collection, under "more details", the UBS5 says "with morphology" with no mention of the apparatus.
The full UBS5 description on the same page also does not mention the apparatus.
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According to what is online I should have the UBS5 app.- do not show it in my library- but I did just get the NA28 app. for $8.29 [:D]
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
According to what is online I should have the UBS5 app.- do not show it in my library- but I did just get the NA28 app. for $8.29
I stand corrected I received a different version of the NA and the app. for $8.29- WOW! [:O]
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Personally, I got this bundle in hopes of obtaining UBS5 with apparatus. Otherwise, the upgrade price wouldn't be worth it for me. There's no reason for it not to be available now if not soon, the digital release has been around for months.
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I as well- since that's how it was advertised- but guess we'll have to wait and see.
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How about a BUMP to get an answer from Faithlife on Monday! [y]
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Veli Voipio said:
Now I've got NA28 with the apparatus as a bonus in this order. I dare to recommend this deal for all who have the old SESB set.
Yep. I'm in too. Thanks, guys.
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NA28 apparatus does not show up always in the Exegetical Guide window. If I use John3:1-15 it shows up, but when I use John3:1-5 it doesn't, although it has variants in verses 3, 4 and 5. Just wonder should I rebuild the index or is it a real bug?
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Veli Voipio said:
NA28 apparatus does not show up always in the Exegetical Guide window. If I use John3:1-15 it shows up, but when I use John3:1-5 it doesn't
It shows up for me in Logos 6.7 beta on Windows 8.1
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Well, I did rebuild index but it did not help. This example and generally short passages don't work, but longer (selector suggested) passages often do work. I have the version 6.6 SR-1. I can wait for 6.7.
Below Na28 is missing Below there is Na28
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Veli Voipio said:
I have the version 6.6 SR-1. I can wait for 6.7.
I have just checked on 6.6 SR1 and get the same results as in the 6.7 beta so I doubt if the upgrade is going to fix this.
I'll see if I can think of anything else.
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If you do the Milestone search below do you get the same results as I do?
What is the Support Info on your NA28 apparatus? Mine is
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I did the milestone search and the result looks exactly like yours (the good thing that I unintentionally learnt something new: the milestone search)
I also had Multiple resources on in NA28 (NA28 as master and UBS5 and AGNT as slaves), but switching the Multiple resources off did not help [:(]
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Is the Support Info the same? May not be relevant but worth checking.
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Graham Criddle said:
Is the Support Info the same? May not be relevant but worth checking.
The support info is the same, sorry that I did not pay attention to your former question.
I also tried to change the visual filters, but it does not change the results (but as a byproduct I found that if I
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I don't understand what is going on here - and am aware it might not be picked up by Faithlife in this forum
I'll create a thread in the L6 forum and link back to this.
Edit: Started a new thread https://community.logos.com/forums/t/117495.aspx - let's continue the discussion there.
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In our communication with GBS, it appears we had some wires crossed related to getting these new products put together (and what they include/exclude).
We don't currently have the UBS5 critical apparatus, though I'm working to get more information on that (and if we'll have it anytime soon). We will make sure these product pages are corrected shortly.
Please accept our apologies on this miscommunication. I'll keep everyone posted on any other developments related to GBS products (and these new bundles).
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Also, we have some folks from Faithlife meeting with GBS (among many others) at the book fair in Frankfurt this week. Hopefully I can get everyone an update on the status of this apparatus (and if/when we can get it in our format) soon.
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Thanks Gabe! I appreciate the clarification and update!
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Thank you
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Thank you, Gabe. Finger crossed![Y]
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Update: We will have a product page up soon for the UBS5 Critical Apparatus.
For those that have ordered (or plan to order) one of the new GBS bundles (Stuttgart Scholarly Editions) where the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus is included, you will get it as part of those bundles once the apparatus is complete.
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
Update: We will have a product page up soon for the UBS5 Critical Apparatus.
For those that have ordered (or plan to order) one of the new GBS bundles (Stuttgart Scholarly Editions) where the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus is included, you will get it as part of those bundles once the apparatus is complete.
Wow, thanks! That's great news!
Have joy in the Lord!
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
For those that have ordered (or plan to order) one of the new GBS bundles (Stuttgart Scholarly Editions) where the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus is included, you will get it as part of those bundles once the apparatus is complete.
Very nice. Glad for such a quick response, too.
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
For those that have ordered (or plan to order) one of the new GBS bundles (Stuttgart Scholarly Editions) where the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus is included, you will get it as part of those bundles once the apparatus is complete.
Great news. Thanks
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Gabe, what are the odds of having the apparatus created as a separate resource (similar to NA28), and thus allowing us to access it through the apparatus section of the Exegetical Guide?
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John Kight said:
Gabe, what are the odds of having the apparatus created as a separate resource (similar to NA28), and thus allowing us to access it through the apparatus section of the Exegetical Guide?
This would be ideal. It is more difficult to use the UBS4 with Apparatus than the NA27 & NA28 with Apparatus.
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John Kight said:
Gabe, what are the odds of having the apparatus created as a separate resource (similar to NA28), and thus allowing us to access it through the apparatus section of the Exegetical Guide?
It will be a separate resource, but we are looking at additional ways to link apparatuses with Bibles in the future.
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
we are looking at additional ways to link apparatuses with Bibles in the future
It might be useful to utilize the creativity of the Logos community and start a page where all apparatus enthusiasts could dump their ideas for free.
My own experience in engineering is that maybe 1% of the ideas are useful, but if you receive many suggestions then there is something to choose from [H]
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
It will be a separate resource, but we are looking at additional ways to link apparatuses with Bibles in the future.
That's good news!
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Here's the Pre-Pub for the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus. Dynamic Pricing is enabled for those that already own the UBS5 text alone.
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
Update: We will have a product page up soon for the UBS5 Critical Apparatus.
For those that have ordered (or plan to order) one of the new GBS bundles (Stuttgart Scholarly Editions) where the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus is included, you will get it as part of those bundles once the apparatus is complete.
Gabe, I bought the complete 29 vols before, would I get the critical apparatus for me?
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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) said:
Here's the Pre-Pub for the UBS5 with Critical Apparatus. Dynamic Pricing is enabled for those that already own the UBS5 text alone.
mike said:Gabe, I bought the complete 29 vols before, would I get the critical apparatus for me?
When I checked the link above, it is grayed for me, so I assume it is coming to me
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mike said:
Gabe, I bought the complete 29 vols before, would I get the critical apparatus for me?
Yes, Gabe answered here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/117418/771877.aspx#771877
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If you already own the NA28 apparatus is there a compelling reason to purchase the UBS5 apparatus? I'm just wondering if there is enough of a difference in the content or format to warrant the purchase?
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