How to Disable the Reading View fading

Hi, when I enter and leave the Reading View, there's a fading that happens that's very slow (on the order of 2-3 seconds). Oftentimes, I find it disrupts my ability to switch contexts or e.g. take notes quickly while listening to a sermon.

Moreover, there's some kind of panel rearrangement flashing that happens that shows me the software is already ready with the end of the fading in "mind", but then this fading starts to happen (a bit late) and I have to wait for it to reach the end of its show.

Most of the time I use the Reading View not to read a resource for a long time, but to show in full screen a small panel whose content I want to see more completely.

Is there a way to disable this fading?

Otherwise, I think I should get used to the Floating Panel feature, which is very fast, but which I don't like as much for 3 reasons:

it doesn't immediately fill the entire screen.
it's represented as a regular window, offering the "automatism temptation" of closing it with the OS's regular ways. But I never want to close a floating panel this way; I always want to anchor it back when I'm done with it.
its keyboard shortcut is not symmetric for entering and leaving it.

So those are three reasons for me to prefer the Reading View, especially if we can turn off the fading.

Thanks for any tips!

PS this is on a Mac, if there are any platform specifics involved here.

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JT (alabama24)

I am unaware of any ability to adjust to this. Sorry

Reuben Helmuth

its keyboard shortcut is not symmetric for entering and leaving it.

I'm also on a Mac and consider BTT (Better Touch Tool) an essential tool for my workflow. Using BTT you can pretty much set any gesture/shortcut to do pretty much anything you'd like. For myself, I've set a 2-finger swipe in from left to float a resource and a 2-finger swipe in from top to dock a floating resource. To me this is what "felt" intuitive and "remember-able"! Of course I set these actions to only take affect when Logos is active.

If you're not familiar with BTT, it's definitely something you should consider!

Blessings

Dave Hooton

PS this is on a Mac, if there are any platform specifics involved here.

OS/platform is essential to know!

In Windows on my new notebook (on battery) the transition occurs in about 1s, with some callisthenics, rather than any fading! An older notebook wasn't as graceful and took longer. So performance/redrawing would be a factor of graphics 'card' and CPU.

its keyboard shortcut is not symmetric for entering and leaving it.

Because there are no other alternatives in Reading View!

Daniel Jomphe

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776682#Comment_776682

Ok so this is on a MacBook Air of Late 2011 with all the OS X versions of the last 3 years, up to 10.11 El Capitan currently.

Specs: 1.7 Ghz Core i5 / 4G of RAM / Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB

Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776708#Comment_776708

Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB

That's a couple of generations old, so it will slower than my Graphics 5500.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776708#Comment_776708

Hi Daniel

I have a year latter MacBook and such changes to layout as you describe although not instantaneous are too fast to be a hindrance.

Multi-tasking is pretty good on a Mac but having a lot of active applications can, in some circumstances slow things down a bit.

Have you had a look at the Activity Monitor to see if something else is hogging the processor?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776750#Comment_776750

In addition to Mike's comments.... Try restarting the computer

Daniel Jomphe

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776750#Comment_776750

Hi Mike and all,

Thanks for the answers,

I had no apps hogging either the CPU or the RAM while reproducing the issue. And rebooting doesn't help.

I also fired up Logos on a MacBook Pro Late 2013 with 16G of RAM and a much better video card. All the same behavior happens on that computer too, except that the fading is very, very smooth. It still takes 3-4 seconds and this feels very long in the middle of an intense listening and note-taking session.

I'm left wishing some hidden parameter was exposed for me to play with this fading's settings : toggling it on/off, and/or accelerating it.

And maybe set myself some macros to simulate the Reading View's best features with the Floating Panels. This could be a good usecase for Keyboard Maestro.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/776986#Comment_776986

I also fired up Logos on a MacBook Pro Late 2013 with 16G of RAM and a much better video card. All the same behavior happens on that computer too, except that the fading is very, very smooth. It still takes 3-4 seconds and this feels very long in the middle of an intense listening and note-taking session.

Daniel

This does seem a little strange. Could you post some screen shots of the layout you are floating these windows from?

On my setup expanding and docking a panel is almost instantaneous and certainly less than 0.25 of a second. In fact I do not see any fading whatsoever as it far too fast.

Daniel Jomphe

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777019#Comment_777019

On my setup expanding and docking a panel is almost instantaneous and certainly less than 0.25 of a second. In fact I do not see any fading whatsoever as it far too fast.

Oh Mike, I think you're talking about the Floating Panel feature, but I was talking about the Reading View feature.

The Floating Panel feature is very fast, but has many disadvantages for what I want. On top of the 3 items listed above, I'd add a 4rth one: when we dock it back, it doesn't necessarily get docked back exactly how it was earlier.

The Reading View is the one with the fading effect, that was added in L5 if I remember well.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/777845#Comment_777845

Daniel

Oh Mike, I think you're talking about the Floating Panel feature, but I was talking about the Reading View feature.

My apologies Daniel -- you are quite right.

I had forgotten about 'Reading View' it, for me is an obsolete feature as using the full screen facility on a Mac gives easier access and, as you noticed is a good deal quicker.

If you have the 'Logos Box' set to 'full screen' on your Mac and then float a panel, that panel will open 'full screen' in it's own space.

Doing it this way has a couple of advantages - to get back to the remaining items in the 'Logos Box' only requires a 'three finger swipe' to switch spaces so no need to continuously re-dock panels.

You can get a string of panels opened to full screen and switch quickly between them.

You might like to experiment with this way of working.