As designed? Community tags in settings and visual filters
I have community tags disabled in my settings:
However, it still shows up as an option in my visual filters:
My expectation is that if community tags are globally disabled in Settings, the option / checkbox should not show up at all in any visual filters.
***ALSO*** Regarding community notes, I think there needs to be an option added to Settings to globally disable community notes; i.e. "Show Community Notes" just below the two options in the screenshot above. This is important because they will show up enabled sometimes in my resources. Further, there is no "Do not show in any resources" option for that item in the visual filters list.
Logos 6.6 SR-2 on Windows 8.1 x64.
Thanks,
Donnie
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Bump. This might have gotten lost / missed over the weekend.
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Donnie
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Bump (again). I would like a response by someone with Faithlife.
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Donnie
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I'm not certain we have the support for filtering out options in the Visual Filter dropdown based on that program setting, but I can see why you would expect that behavior.
I'll check with Eli on what the expected behavior would be. Thanks for your patience.
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Donnie Hale said:
My expectation is that if community tags are globally disabled in Settings, the option / checkbox should not show up at all in any visual filters.
That makes sense to me.
I suppose the counter-argument is that folks who normally don't want them showing might, on occasion, wish to turn them on without changing a global setting. That would be weighed against having the item taking up space in the dropdown list.
I might fall into that group, as I almost never use community tags (or notes, etc.), but on a couple of occasions was curious how folks were tagging a book, so I clicked it. Then I un-clicked it.
I really can't say which one would be better. But I do see the logic of your expectation.
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Bradley pointed out something that I'd forgotten, and which is admittedly somewhat unclear with the identical naming.
Community Tags in Program Settings refer to Library tags that others have applied. In the Library info tab we list tags that other users frequently use on the specified resource, like "bible" "english commentary" etc.
Community Tags in Visual Filters refers to resource tags from other users, the kind that would appear in the Context Menu if you right-click the word, like <Place Jerusalem> or <Person Jesus>.
That's why the VF option is there even with the Program Setting set to No; they're unrelated features. I knew that, but when I replied earlier it hadn't clicked.
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Dylan Rondeau said:
That's why the VF option is there even with the Program Setting set to No; they're unrelated features.
Unrelated features that share precisely the same name... very confusing.
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SineNomine said:Dylan Rondeau said:
That's why the VF option is there even with the Program Setting set to No; they're unrelated features.
Unrelated features that share precisely the same name... very confusing.
Agreed, hence the confusion. I've made an inquiry about possibly renaming one for clarity.
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Thanks for the follow-up, Dylan.
How about this, then: A master setting to "Disable anything and everything that could in any way be seen as 'community' throughout the whole app." This would remove community-related visual filters, community tags in the library, community notes - all of it.
I would use that setting. At least until Logos adds "community links" - https://community.logos.com/forums/p/99549/689549.aspx#689549
Donnie
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Dylan Rondeau said:
Community Tags in Visual Filters refers to resource tags from other users, the kind that would appear in the Context Menu if you right-click the word, like <Place Jerusalem> or <Person Jesus>.
One more thing, Dylan. Did you see this part of my question in the original post:
Further, there is no "Do not show in any resources" option for [community notes] in the visual filters list.
Is that by design? Is there a rationale?
Thanks again,
Donnie
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Donnie Hale said:
Further, there is no "Do not show in any resources" option for [community notes] in the visual filters list.
Is that by design? Is there a rationale?
None of the headings (Resource, Community Notes, Notes, Passage Lists, etc.) have a "Do not show in any resources" option; this is only present on individual visual filters under that heading. For Community Notes, this will be the name of a Faithlife group that you're a member of.
The Community Notes heading should be hidden if no Faithlife Groups that you're a member of have any community notes for this resource. This appears to be the case in your original screenshot: Community Notes would typically appear between Resource and Notes, but it's not shown.
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Dylan Rondeau said:SineNomine said:Dylan Rondeau said:
That's why the VF option is there even with the Program Setting set to No; they're unrelated features.
Unrelated features that share precisely the same name... very confusing.
Agreed, hence the confusion. I've made an inquiry about possibly renaming one for clarity.
Noticed Logos 6.11 Beta 2 still has confusing "Community Tags"
Suggest adding Library to Program Settings so "Show Community Tags" becomes "Show Library Community Tags"
Visual Filter menu has "Community Tags inside Resources grouping.
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