Problems Transferring to New PC

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77869#Comment_77869

Graham,

Unfortunately there is no easy way to do this in Logos 4. It might be that the Beta has conflicts with some of the resources and they have not been scanned in. If so, that would be corrected eventually.

Have you tried to 'Update Resources' through the command bar? If you type that in and hit enter you should see a notation in the upper right corner near the sync icon that Logos is looking for updated resources. This would force Logos to find and download your missing resources, unless what I said about the beta is the case. (This takes soem tiem to accomplish, so be patient).

Hi Graham,

I ran into a similar situation several weeks ago. It turned out that (for me at least, Scholars library) some of the Lexham resources have been renamed/consolidated, resulting in a reduced resource count.

So if you have some of the Lexham resources, compare them on your old and new computers to see if that leads you to what's missing or causing the change in resource count.

Hope this helps.

Peter

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77869#Comment_77869

Have you tried to 'Update Resources' through the command bar?

Hi Mark

Was not aware of that command, just tried it and nothing seems to have changed...

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77893#Comment_77893

Peter may have pointed out the issue or it may be beta related. The fact that Logos seems to think you have all your resources suggests that you do, but you just don't understand why the count is different than it was.

Check the wiki for more information on available commands: http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Commands

Graham,

I encountered the same thing and, like you, my laptop
is faster than my desktop. My count varied from my L4 beta laptop (minus
8) to my L4 desktop (up 8) resources. When I discovered the discrepancy, I was about to backup my Logos 4
resources and other particulars on my desktop anyway.

Since I couldn't figure out which 8 resources were
missing, I just copied my
desktop's L4 resource directory over to the same on my laptop. Since I
use a freebie Explorer plugin for file management which gives me the
option when it finds duplicates to either skip, overwrite all or overwrite only older
files, it solved my missing resources dilemma speedily - it only copied the 8 missing files. Never did figure out which 8 resources I missing beyond the 1 I happened to be reading and couldn't access on my laptop after one of the beta installs.

I've never had a count discrepancy betwixt the twain of 'em since.

Debra

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77903#Comment_77903

I just copied my
desktop's L4 resource directory over to the same on my laptop.

Please do NOT do this with a beta installation.

Here are Bradley Grainger's warnings:

Do not share resources or Data folders between the
stable Logos 4 and the Logos 4 Beta release; the format of data files
and (some) resources in Logos 4 Beta may have changed, making them
unreadable by Logos 4.

Some documents in Logos 4 Beta have changed their internal formats
since the release of Logos 4; these documents will not be synced to
your Logos 4 installation. The new types of documents that will be
added to Logos 4 Beta will also not be synced. However, existing
document types that haven’t changed their internal formats will
continue to sync between Logos 4 and Logos 4 Beta.

You can find the rest here: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8883.aspx

Besides the warning, this indicates your resource counts may differ between a normal 4.0 and a beta 4.0 installation.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77901#Comment_77901

Peter may have pointed out the issue or it may be beta related. The fact that Logos seems to think you have all your resources suggests that you do, but you just don't understand why the count is different than it was.

Mark,

I actually was missing 8 resources on my laptop with L4 beta installed. None were attributed to the interlinear setup since I had those, both integrated and the ones which I have to open). I wasn't really paying attention to the resource count between my desktop and laptop ... 'til a book I was in the midst of reading was inaccessible post-beta install. It was still available in my desktop L4, however. That's when I started comparing resource counts and investigating further.

I've never figured out which other 7 resources were missing between my desktop L4 install and my laptop with the L4B install, except I'd already figured out it wasn't any of the interlinears.

Debra

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77909#Comment_77909

Do not share resources or Data folders between the
stable Logos 4 and the Logos 4 Beta release; the format of data files
and (some) resources in Logos 4 Beta may have changed, making them
unreadable by Logos 4.

Mark,

I only copied resources over to the L4B resource folder on my laptop, not all of the folders, just the resources which are contained therein. Only the 8 missing copied over.

That notwithstanding, my bad, need to change my tag, I run the beta on both my desktop and my laptop. I installed the beta on my desktop before backup. Something I generally do after a new beta drop runs fairly stably on my laptop, taking into account known issues and those reported here on the forum. [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77913#Comment_77913

FWIW: I have 2987 resources unhidden in Logos 4.0a SR-3 and 2985 in Logos 4.0b Beta 3.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77918#Comment_77918

FYI - I figured out the discrepancies between my two machines the old fashioned way -- I opened up the Library display on both machines, made sure they both displayed the same number of lines, and then started doing Page-Downs on both machines and making note of the differences between the two.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77922#Comment_77922

FWIW: I have 2987 resources unhidden in Logos 4.0a SR-3 and 2985 in Logos 4.0b Beta 3.

A footnote: my 8 missing resources were *.lbxlls files - *.lbxlls and *.logos4 file counts indicated I had 8 more *.lbxlls files on my desktop backup than I did in my laptop's resource directory ... beyond the one I knew about, I just couldn't figure out which other 7 I was missing, but none were *.logos4 resources, go figure?

To be clear, my backup/8 file copy over to laptop was from beta to beta (the second beta drop, if memory serves).

Debra

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77927#Comment_77927

my backup/8 file copy over to laptop was from beta to beta

That would be fine, or non-beta to non-beta. Graham appears to be going from non-beta to beta, therefore the warning.

BillS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77923#Comment_77923

FYI - I figured out the discrepancies between my two machines the old fashioned way -- I opened up the Library display on both machines, made sure they both displayed the same number of lines, and then started doing Page-Downs on both machines and making note of the differences between the two.

To me, this says we either need more / more accurate help from L4 to ensure all our resources (& no more) are present (i.e., manage our library), or we need better tools to do so.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77923#Comment_77923

FYI - I figured out the discrepancies between my two machines the old fashioned way -- I opened up the Library display on both machines, made sure they both displayed the same number of lines, and then started doing Page-Downs on both machines and making note of the differences between the two.

Wow! I "cheated" and ran counts between the *.lbxlls and *.logos4 resource files on both machine installs. There was the irony, even with the beta finally installed on my desktop, too, I still came up 8 resources short on my laptop.

P.S. Thanks, Mark!

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77872#Comment_77872

some of the Lexham resources have been renamed/consolidated, resulting in a reduced resource count.

Hi Peter

Thanks, that was the correct explanation creating a collection for Lexham gives:

19 Resources on my Old System

16 Resources on my New System

Which means that I am pretty much up and running from a Logos perspective, just a few more products to sort out...

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77932#Comment_77932

my backup/8 file copy over to laptop was from beta to beta

That would be fine, or non-beta to non-beta. Graham appears to be going from non-beta to beta, therefore the warning.

Thanks, Mark. I was far from clear about what I was copying from/to. When the first beta dropped, I installed it only on my laptop since it's the speedier of the two by a reasonable margin and I could more easily do a complete clean L4 install/index if the worst happened. Once the beta drops run stably on my laptop, I install on my desktop, too, since by then I'm spoiled to some of the beta features. [:)]

Debra

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77937#Comment_77937

I think several of the Lexham resources became obsolete; I don't use them much so I didn't pay much attention as to the reason. You can do a search on these forums for "Lexham".

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77960#Comment_77960

For obsolete resources to delete see http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9797/78251.aspx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/77903#Comment_77903

Since I couldn't figure out which 8 resources were
missing, I just copied my
desktop's L4 resource directory over to the same on my laptop.

Copying is likely to promulgate obsolete/unwanted resources between your systems because Explorer/plugins don't know anything about Logos files. It is better to use the scan command in the system that is missing resources eg.

type scan <other resource folder> in the Command bar
restart L4

It will ignore obsolete files and initiate an index.

Note: you can use a network path or put them onto a removable drive.

Did your system index after the copy?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/78259#Comment_78259

Since I couldn't figure out which 8 resources were
missing, I just copied my
desktop's L4 resource directory over to the same on my laptop.

Copying is likely to promulgate obsolete/unwanted resources between your systems because Explorer/plugins don't know anything about Logos files. It is better to use the scan command in the system that is missing resources eg.

type scan <other resource folder> in the Command bar

restart L4

It will ignore obsolete files and initiate an index.

Note: you can use a network path or put them onto a removable drive.

Did your system index after the copy?

Scan didn't work to restore the 8 books as it had before when I installed the CD for volume 12-TJL into L3 in order to access the journals/mags in my L4.

Nope, no automatic indexing after the copy over of the missing 8 files. It probably would have been a while before I figured out I was missing 8 resources had I not been in the midst of reading one of the inexplicably "locked" books. I had it on my desktop, but not on my laptop. If memory serves - it's been a few weeks - I believe it was "131 Christians Everyone Should Know". As I noted earlier, according to pre-copy file counts, none were *.logos4 files, all 8 were still in the *.lbxlls.

Other than the index merging I've initiated myself after subsequent multi-volume resource addins, methinks the only two full automatic indexes have come after the maiden clean L4 install and the large resource update drop last week.

I have my home/home office networked, plus I tend to make at least one back up to an external drive (not counting a backup I keep with system images in the event of a catastrophic failure of one of my Mobos or system HDs).

Thank you, Dave.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/78259#Comment_78259

Dave-

A quick addenda: the only files which copied over were the 8 missing files. I didn't actually replace the resource directory with the backup of same from my other system. I use a little third party Explorer plugin which allows me to dictate how I want copying of duplicate files handled: overwrite, skip or overwrite older files only. So, the program only copied over the 8 missing resources and skipped over the rest.

Debra

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/78970#Comment_78970

Scan didn't work to restore the 8 books as it had before when I installed the CD for volume 12-TJL into L3 in order to access the journals/mags in my L4.

Strange... might say something about the resources, but I've scanned .lbxlls updates from 14 December to my other systems.

Nope, no automatic indexing after the copy over of the missing 8 files.

So how can you be sure they are indexed for searching?