TIP of the day: Logos (reverse interlinear) tagging #4 - Louw-Nida

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407
edited November 20 in English Forum

This is the next to last field of the interlinear - one which can be leveraged to permit a wide variety of search conditions or visual filter conditions. The base resource is Louw, Johannes P., and Eugene Albert Nida. Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament: Based on Semantic Domains. New York: United Bible Societies, 1996. to which the interlinear is keyed.

Additional reading:

1. Just as the Strong's number links to the Strong's lexicon, so the Louw-Nida links to the Louw-Nida lexicon. This lexicon is organized by semantic domain rather than the usual alphabetic lemma.

2. Note that the Context Menu gives you a direct link to the lexicon as well as the usual search options.

3. Note that the Search is slightly broader than the (reverse)interlinear Bibles as some apostolic fathers' works are also coded with LN numbers.

4. The Louw-Nida search argument may also be used in Visual Filters - I have the following obtained from the Faithlife Visual Filters group.

5. A screenshot of the relevant Faithlife group - care needs to be taken that you get the latest version as at least one of the early versions no longer works.

6. This filter indicates persons, places and things selecting by LN number. Note that the HCSB which has no reverse interlinear shows no results.

7. This filter translates the relationships included in the LN 89 semantic domain. Note how the filter ties the highlighting to the lexicon.

8. This filter highlights discourse analysis markers, encouraging the user to learn to do their own discourse analysis or at least review the analysis provided by Faithlife.

9. This filter highlights time and location markers. Change in time and location is one indicator of potential pericope boundaries. This highlights the text the user may focus on in choosing between alternative boundaries.

10. The final filter provides semantic role highlighting - based on case rather than the case frame foundations of the Faithlife semantic role coding.

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Comments

  • Bryan Tucker
    Bryan Tucker Member Posts: 18

    Quick somewhat related question for those who know. In L4 & L5 the core engine had a lesser & a full-featured version. Less than full-featured did not have the Louw-Nida tagging (a very valuable resource!). I'm trying to verify whether or not that is still the case (to guide recommendations to people I suggest a 1st time Logos purchase). I suspect Platinum & above is full-featured & below that isn't, but haven't seen any indications to confirm my suspicion in any of the promo material.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,407
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/780312#Comment_780312

    See https://www.logos.com/compare. I think that Gold is full-featured but not everyone needs a full-featured version.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Bryan Tucker
    Bryan Tucker Member Posts: 18
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/780313#Comment_780313

    Clearly not everybody needs full-featured. I want to know the break point so I can suggest base a to d for those who don't, and base levels x to z for those who do. I know it used to be Gold and above, but haven't seen anything from FL stating if there's still a break, and if so at which level. The compare chart (and Logos suggesting platinum and above for mobile ed users) is what makes me suspect the break is now at platinum. Louw-Nida & its dataset for reverse interlinear was always in the full-featured but missing below. Now Louw-Nida is in Platinum & above (not included in Gold), but I don't see the dataset listed anywhere (other than when I hover over Louw-Nida on the compare chart I get a popup stating I own it and the dataset). If you look at

    ... never mind, I found the answer. If you look at any of the base package pages (https://www.logos.com/product/43521/platinum), you'll see a graphic comparing base packages under the heading "Key Resource Categories". Gold and above have 131 datasets, while Silver and below have less. The compare page doesn't come close to listing 131 datasets. Anybody at FL have a link to a full listing?

  • Schumitinu
    Schumitinu Member Posts: 570
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/780315#Comment_780315

    Just to clarify. The LN tagging is part of every Reverse Interlinear, no matter what base package you get/have. The base package would only determine which RI you get, but not what tagging is included in the RI. If I'm wrong, I'm sure somebody will correct me.

    The LN Lexicon however is a separate resource and comes with, as you say, platinum and above. The LN tagging in the RI is till there and can still be used for Visual Filters etc. even if you don't own the lexicon. But you are limited in that you cannot go and look up the tagged entry in the lexicon, the semantic domain etc. And you don't get a pop up window with such information by hovering over the LN number etc.

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