Just to let those running parallels know, that I find Logos runs better under boot camp. I'm using Windows 7
What exactly is boot camp?
Though I'm tempted to tell you about Orlando in August of 1972, I'll answer instead that it's a virtual PC for Mac. They can install Windows, then win apps, including Logos.
Hey, Daniel
I hope you let the mac users know as well (Logos 4 mac forum)!
Though I'm tempted to tell you about Orlando in August of 1972
What did happen then?
I concur it does!! It runs a lot better so much so that I got rid of parallels!!!!
Actually, Boot Camp is not "a virtual PC for Mac." Boot Camp is Apple's dual boot system for allowing users to install Windows on a separate partition. There's no virtualization or emulation involved. And yes, it definitely runs faster than Parallels of VMWare Fusion since it's no different than running Windows on any other computer. The downside is that it runs to the exclusion of any Mac OS X apps. Both Parallels and Fusion can read Boot Camp partitions and load Boot Camp Windows installations in emulation, and while this allows for Windows & Mac apps to run simultaneously, Windows loses the speed it receives when running straight from the machine using Boot Camp.
it's a virtual PC for Mac
Close but not quite. Boot Camp is a feature of Leopard/Snow Leopard that allows users to install Microsoft Windows on Mac computers, not within a virtual machine or somehow as a subset of Apple but on its own partition where the user can dual boot, choosing to boot the computer in Mac or boot in Windows.
Since Boot Camp is not a virtual machine, and does not run as a subset of the Mac, when you run Windows via Boot Camp it is just like running Windows on any other computer. This is, of course, faster than running Windows inside a virtual machine, so it makes sense that Logos would be faster this way. But it is also less convenient: you have to reboot, boot into Windows, work in Logos, then reboot, and boot back into the Mac when you are done.
But it is also faster to install Windows via boot camp then set up a virtual machine using the boot camp installation rather than installing Windows to a virtual hard drive. This is possibly what the original post refers to.
I find running Logos 4 inside P5 in windowed mode to be zippy enough. It's certainly faster than the Alpha release of the mac version.
I use both on my macbookpro and the Mac Alpha i alot faster than parallels 5 version running XP Logos 4 .. ALOT faster. the Alpha of course doesnt have alot of features yet but speed there is no comparison
I found that when I ran it in Parallels I had to allocate 2 gig of ram. Basically OSX would start to grind and this became a pain for me. Personally I don't mind firing it up in boot camp because the performance is better. Windows 7 works with all the Snow Leopard drivers nicely
I know Logos 4 will be faster in boot camp; however, I don't consider Logos 4 as being "slow" using Fusion 3.0.1 / Windoze 7 (just not as fast as boot camp). The more important consideration for me (besides absolute speed) is the ease of backing up and restoring my MacBook Pro in case of an internal hard drive failure. It is a pretty simple task to create a bootable clone of my internal HD (inclusing my virtual machines) from where I can run my machine (including the VM's) in case of an internal drive failure and to restore my install onto a replacement internal. This also allows me to install and test the Logos 4 Mac alpha's and PC Beta's on a bootable external hard drive and only install full releases or release candidates onto my internal. "As far as I know," Windows / boot camp will not boot from an external hard drive installation...
I found that when I ran it in Parallels I had to allocate 2 gig of ram. Basically OSX would start to grind and this became a pain for me.
In that case you should consider purchasing more RAM.
you can only install 3 gig in a macbook
I feel your pain Daniel, and I tried running mine in bootcamp, but most people won't because they like OSX better than Windows. Hang in there, our Native Mac application is making progress.
The nice thing is you can use bootcamp when you know you are going to be in L4 for an extended period of time, and still use Parallels when you have light work to do.
Ouch! I forgot that.
US Navy boot camp... lots of marching & drilling in 90-100+ temps equaled only by the humidity... Lots more but since this is OT, I'll stop there. [;)]
Blessings!
Close but not quite. Boot Camp is a feature of Leopard/Snow Leopard
Thanks for the correction!
What size partition are you guys giving to Boot Camp?
I set mine at 50 Gb
Daniel, to do as you suggested, do I have to set up the bootcamp partition again from scratch? I'm using VMware Fusion, and have recently purchased Windows 7.
Thanks!
Christina
Hi Christina
I personally setup bootcamp from scratch and then setup the VM in Parallels. Not sure how fusion does it. Best bit is that you don't take up loads of space with a VM and bootcamp as they roll into one
Dan
