Charismatic/Pentecostal Gold BP

DAL
DAL Member Posts: 10,942 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Not much new material, but it kind of makes me wonder does the Baker  sermon outline collection really cost $305 or is that just too overpriced and not worth it?

DAL

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  • Kendall Sholtess
    Kendall Sholtess Member Posts: 207 ✭✭

      I've often wondered about Charismatic-Pentecostal. The two terms are not synonymous. I mean Charismatic is one thing, and Pentecostal is another thing. It's like saying the Baptist-Presbyterian collection. I guess they are all Christians. 

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭
  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,942 ✭✭✭

    mike said:

    It was $39.99 when I bought it on pre-pub.

    I thought so! I don't know why the price sky rocketed that much! Are the outlines worth it? The preview doesn't impress me at all.

    DAL

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭

    For $39.99, yes.

    For $305, at least they need to in-cooperate this under Sermon Starter Guide --> Thematic Outlines. But so far, that ain't happening yet.

  • Gary Osborne
    Gary Osborne Member Posts: 325 ✭✭

      I've often wondered about Charismatic-Pentecostal. The two terms are not synonymous. I mean Charismatic is one thing, and Pentecostal is another thing. It's like saying the Baptist-Presbyterian collection. I guess they are all Christians. 

    Big A-M-E-N to this sentiment.  The latest entry (P/C Gold) is heavy on the Charismatic and very light on the traditional Pentecostal.  We desperately need to see the Full Life/Fire Bible added, for a start.

  • Kendall Sholtess
    Kendall Sholtess Member Posts: 207 ✭✭

    A lot of the material cannot even be called Charismatic, because it is 3rd Wave or New Apostolic Reformation.

    If a Pentecostal has to have them in their library, it might still be good to have more works by classical Pentecostals like Smith Wigglesworth, etc. 

    I'm not here to fight over it. I just think that Faithlife may not be aware of the significant differences between the groups. 

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    I just think that Faithlife may not be aware of the significant differences between the groups. 

    This is possible. But FL also has a single line of Anglican base packages, and the differences between different groups and types of Anglicans can be very substantial indeed.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Kendall Sholtess
    Kendall Sholtess Member Posts: 207 ✭✭

    I just think that Faithlife may not be aware of the significant differences between the groups. 

    This is possible. But FL also has a single line of Anglican base packages, and the differences between different groups and types of Anglicans can be very substantial indeed.

    OK. I understand. Actually I like the 3rd wave stuff, I just want more variety. I hope they will add some more. Then I will consider making more of a financial investment.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I just think that Faithlife may not be aware of the significant differences between the groups. 

    They're definitely aware of the differences. But it takes time to build up relationships with publishers. Because the charismatic church is non-denominational it has spread more widely, and charismatic books are printed by mainstream publishers as well as specialist publishers. That's much less true with Pentecostal works. Also, digital rights on older books that are still in copyright are much more of a headache than with newer books, which probably makes it harder to get some of the classic Pentecostal works.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Gary Osborne
    Gary Osborne Member Posts: 325 ✭✭

    I just think that Faithlife may not be aware of the significant differences between the groups. 

    They're definitely aware of the differences. But it takes time to build up relationships with publishers. Because the charismatic church is non-denominational it has spread more widely, and charismatic books are printed by mainstream publishers as well as specialist publishers. That's much less true with Pentecostal works. Also, digital rights on older books that are still in copyright are much more of a headache than with newer books, which probably makes it harder to get some of the classic Pentecostal works.

    Mark, thank you so much for that explanation.  I'm just relieved to know that Logos is aware of the differences and that they are at least trying to secure some classical Pentecostal material (the A/G's primary publishing arm, Gospel Publishing House, would be a great "get" if possible).

  • Kendall Sholtess
    Kendall Sholtess Member Posts: 207 ✭✭

    Big A-M-E-N to this sentiment.  The latest entry (P/C Gold) is heavy on the Charismatic and very light on the traditional Pentecostal.  We desperately need to see the Full Life/Fire Bible added, for a start.

    I would really like to have the Fire Bible.