What do you think of web forums instead of newsgroups?

Bob Pritchett
Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280
edited November 20 in English Forum

I'm interested in your feedback on our new web forums.

Do you prefer this to the NNTP newsgroups? Are there advantages/disadvantages?

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  • Rick Brannan (Logos)
    Rick Brannan (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,862

    Yay, forums! Particularly with RSS feeds and especially if the "Search this site" box (above right) is quick.

    Rick Brannan
    Data Wrangler, Faithlife
    My books in print

  • Jim
    Jim Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭

    I really like the newsgroups because my email program (Thunderbird) gets all the headers automatically while I'm doing other work and arranges threads very nicely. I've yet to see a web post system that has a good thread navigation system and is as fast as the newsreader for finding and displaying interesting threads and knowing when someone has responded to my post or added a new one to a thread I'm interested in. I'm open to finding it, but if this is like the many other web posting systems I've used, I will end up not using it very often for the reasons I've given.

    Have a great day,
    jmac

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    I didn't like the sign-in throwing me into the Logos.com web site and having to use the Back button to get here. Presumably all the forum management features are THERE, but this needs to be done via the forum pages.

    I hope pictures (avatars?) are not mandatory as I dislike even that much personalisation.

     

    Let's see what this (Quick Reply) looks like with a picture of my TV.

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    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Paul Golder
    Paul Golder Member Posts: 1,698

    I like forums, access from any browser, no newsreader needed. I also like the new "look and feel" that emulates the style of the new videos. Very bright, clean, and uncluttered, I'm looking forward to the style being adapted on the other company websites.

    Paul

     

    "As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭
  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    Initial impression, this seems nice enough. I like the newsgroups but there are advantages to doing things on the web. In the end I think the web forums will better serve more people, and thus far the implementation of them appears to be good.

     

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    I lost the TV after inserting it in my original message and then couldn't find a way to inset text after loading the image!  This needs a solution!

    Dave


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    Dave
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  • Rich DeRuiter
    Rich DeRuiter Member, MVP Posts: 6,729

    I still prefer the newsgroups. So much less real estate to navigate for the same information. As another poster, said, navigating the newsgroups is much easier. I also use Thunderbird and check the newsgroups as often as I check my email. I'm sure I'll use the forums less than the newsgroups. I hope the newsgroups stay.

     Help links: WIKI;  Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
  • Randall Hartman
    Randall Hartman Member Posts: 502 ✭✭
  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams Member, MVP Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭

    Willing to give it a try. The adavantage is I can view from any computer connected to the web. I switched to Chrome. Explorer is blocking me.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • I've used forums for news with other software companies. I can certainly get used to them with Logos. And, that the login is already set to know me when I got here is a plus.

    I have enjoyed the threads view in OE, and the ability to view years of messages. I hope we'll be able to retain this archieve feature. I just ignore the spammers -- they're a nuisance, but I can kill file them and that's it (except that last batch that used a slightly different iteration of the login for each section of the newsgroups. Since they have to login to the forums, I would hope we could keep these children out of forums.

    I don't see the validity of the complaints of having to have a reader -- maybe the Mac community doesn't have one readily available, and perhaps Windose users don't like M$ software -- but since OE (and even LiveMail now) have been built into the basic OS software (at some level) for (literally) years -- well, that dog just don't hunt. I've been able to access the newsgroups anywhere I have been, at home, on the road, at my kid's place.

    I think the new forum system is simply an admition that we've move beyond the technology of 15 plus years ago. And, I guess even for us old heads, it's time to come a bit into the 21st c.

    Just my two cents, but as always Bob, thanks for asking

    Blessings -- Dale

    P.S. I'd sure like to have a way to change the default "EMail me..." caveat at the end -- I doubt I'd ever want that, and I'd hate to think I have to manually un/deselete this option every time

     

    Blessings,

    Dale Durnell

    Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

     

  • Paul Lund
    Paul Lund Member Posts: 20

    Go for it Bob.  Easier to get to from multiple locations when travelling.

    Keep it up.

    Your stuff just keeps getting better!

     

     

  • Paul Lund
    Paul Lund Member Posts: 20

    Just a test with a short video.

    0763.f-35inharrowingordeal.wmv

     

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams Member, MVP Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭

    P.S. I'd sure like to have a way to change the default "EMail me..." caveat at the end -- I doubt I'd ever want that, and I'd hate to think I have to manually un/deselete this option every time

    Agreeded Dale. Let the unchecked one be the default. 

     

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • Andrew Nugteren
    Andrew Nugteren Member Posts: 38 ✭✭

    Great to see the change from the newsgroups to the forums.  Very happy.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

    Terrible. Way too slow to navigate. Deliver us from this evil, Lord!

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,814 ✭✭✭

    At the top of the page next to your username their is an edit button, click on it and you will be presented with various profile and site options.  In the site options there is a couple of options related to e-mails. Not sure if they will do what we are wanting here but I have unchecked them ....  In these options you can set up things like fonts, signatures , timezones,date format., whether or not you want to be seen in the members list and whether or not you want your avatar displayed ect.

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭

    I personally prefer NNTP newsgroups, as they are very efficient. HOWEVER, a web based newsgroup will encourage wider participation of Logos users. NNTP is a little bit on the techie side and many users have never used USENET type news, but on the other hand everyone who has an internet connection pretty much knows how to use a browser.

    Good job Logos! This is a great day to see this finally going!

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Thank you Bob for asking. I got used to newsgrougs way but I think web-based forums are more usual for more people. I have no problem with it. It looks nice here and I hope all guys from newsgroups will move here. I would miss them very much [:)]

    Have a great day.

    Bohuslav

    Bohuslav

  • Stephen
    Stephen Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    Wonderful idea wish you had done it sooner it is the way to go.

    Stephen Schultz

  • Juanita
    Juanita Member Posts: 1,339

    For me, the forum approach is far better.  Just don't make me add my picture.[:)]

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    You can change many things in your profile and also in the setup of the site (or how they call that). I did. Have a great day.

    Bohuslav

    Bohuslav

  •     And yet, as I've had a night to sleep on it == generally I'm quite content in the NG realm, and web based forums (while looking a bit slicker) are rather Shakespearean ("much ado about nothing") --


     Yet, I find that I was able to post a response to George (last night) from my laptop, here in a hotel room. This morning, from the same location with the same hardware, I got an error that said the message couldn't be posted. Go figure


    Dale

    Blessings,

    Dale Durnell

    Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

     

  • FWIW -- the video link shows up when I accessed the forum but the link appears to be dead

    Dale

    Blessings,

    Dale Durnell

    Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

     

  • FWIW = video humbnail appears, but the link appears to be dead

    Dale

    Blessings,

    Dale Durnell

    Coming to you from Henryetta Oklahoma (45 miles south of Tulsa, and 85 miles east of OKC)

     

  • tom
    tom Member Posts: 3,213

    I like both, but I love the fact that the post can be sent via RSS.

  • tom
    tom Member Posts: 3,213

    I'm interested in your feedback on our new web forums.

    Do you prefer this to the NNTP newsgroups? Are there advantages/disadvantages?

     


    What I do not like
    about forums is that all the responses are displayed sequentially.
     Using newsgroup, we can see who responded to whom and was able to follow
    the conversation.  With everything being listed sequentially, the conversational
    portion is lost.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,667 ✭✭✭

    My issues with the use of the forum have already been posted. But a decision will have to be made wrt use of the newsgroups. I would start to close down the less frequently used ones ASAP e.g. all the lbx.xxx ones, test, wiki, logos2x, Setup - until only General, Suggestions, Beta and Macintosh remain! Then you must decide when you (Logos) stop posting announcements in Beta and close that down!

    Think about moving all the Suggestions into the web forum and then close that down! Likewise with Macintosh.

    Finally, close General [8o|]

     

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13