Do you incorporate a paper Bible in you studies and note taking

Bryce Hufford
Bryce Hufford Member Posts: 89 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Just curious how many are purely computer based in your Bible study and note taking vs how many use paper Bibles as part of their study routine.  If you use a paper Bible, how do you incorporate that with your Logos resources in practice.  Do you take notes in Logos, an other electronic format (I.e. Word or OneNote), a notebook, or a paper Bible?  I like hearing about the methods others use in their Bible study.

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  • delete12066188
    delete12066188 Member Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭

    Logos is just one Libary. I do work with my Paper Bible and other Books in my Bible Study and my Work. Notes are just for save Thought's. I put everything in a Word Dokument.

    Sascha

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭

    Most of the time I do all of my study with my Logos library on my Surface Pro 3 and take my notes in Word or Onenote.  My regular Bibles for study are the NIV 1984 and the NA 28 in the Logos 6.


    "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

  • Everett Headley
    Everett Headley Member Posts: 951 ✭✭
  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    For personal Bible Study, I exclusively use Logos 6 Desktop in the comfort of my home, and my notes (if any) are in Logos also. For Bible Study at church, I use the mobile app (Bible) for reading and highlighting passages with a paper notebook for notes and writing down Scripture references. I carry my paper Bible (along with Logos Mobile App on a tablet, and a paper sermon journal) to all church services.

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭

    Just curious how many are purely computer based in your Bible study and note taking vs how many use paper Bibles as part of their study routine.

    Paper bible gets opened only a couple of times a year now, when the person I'm sharing with would find a screen the wrong way to go.

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭

    My paper Bible gets used very rarely, mostly for occasions such as family devotions in the evening.  

    I always carry a paper Bible to the pulpit whether I use it or not.  When I stand before the people, lean forward over the pulpit and pronounce, "This is God's Word!  You can trust it!"  an iPad doesn't have the same impact as a well-worn, leather-covered, paper Bible with a couple loose post-it notes fluttering to the ground.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,163

    I almost never use a paper Bible these days and it has been that way for a number of years now. I must say that it still does feel a bit weird at times but those feeling continue to diminish as time passes.

    Using adventure and community to challenge young people to continually say "yes" to God

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭

    I have not used a paper Bible for years.  I slowly moved away from a paper Bible when I started using Olive Tree on my Palm Pilots.  Now I only use the Logos app on my iPad to preach from and to read from.

  • Bill Cook
    Bill Cook Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Logos 6 Desktop and iPad. Haven't used the paper Bible in several years.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,634

    Gao Lu said:

    When I stand before the people, lean forward over the pulpit and pronounce, "This is God's Word!  You can trust it!"  an iPad doesn't have the same impact as a well-worn, leather-covered, paper Bible with a couple loose post-it notes fluttering to the ground.

    [8-|] [Y]

    I normally use the Logos desktop app for study and teach from an iPad. The only time I use a paper Bible is when I fill in for the Pastor at the pulpit.

  • Jack Hairston
    Jack Hairston Member Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭

    I always carry a paper Bible to church because Logos would allow me to "chase rabbits" and miss the lesson before me. Instead, I take notes on scratch paper and chase the rabbits through Logos after I get home.

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭

    I love paper Bibles, legal pads, index cards and fountain pens. All from habit, but mainly to avoid distraction. Print forces one to read. Physical writing is more thoughtful. I wrote professionally on paper and typed from my handwritten manuscripts. 

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,634

    Logos would allow me to "chase rabbits"

    The fun part is when—in the midst of chasing the rabbit—the pastor says, "Help me Jack." [:$]

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

    My paper Bible gets used very rarely, mostly for occasions such as family devotions in the evening.  

    I always carry a paper Bible to the pulpit whether I use it or not.  When I stand before the people, lean forward over the pulpit and pronounce, "This is God's Word!  You can trust it!"  an iPad doesn't have the same impact as a well-worn, leather-covered, paper Bible with a couple loose post-it notes fluttering to the ground.

    [Y]

    Most of the time, people can recognize a leather Bible from a mile away, but an iPad won't be recognized as such (who knows, you may have a video game collection on that thing). At times, you may need to be recognizable to people who may be looking for you to lead them to God, without opening your mouth. Pastors, Ministers, Evangelist, etc. have a certain look rather they carry a leather Bible or not, bu those not familiar with church will not readily recognize that look. So, a leather Bible still has visual impact, as a doctors stethoscope and labcoat does. [:)]

  • Geo Philips
    Geo Philips Member Posts: 401 ✭✭

    I got back into paper Bibles after 5 years due to the Bible design 'fad'!

    I carry a Pitt-Minion ESV to church and have a reader's edition ESV at home for family devotions.

    I love Logos but there is something about these paper Bibles that is unparalleled by the digital age.

  • Eric Ross
    Eric Ross Member Posts: 64 ✭✭

    I find that if I want a distraction-free encounter with God's word, the paper Bible is preferred.  Logos is so good at linking in interesting cross-references that I often get distracted down one of those rabbit trails.  I know I can put it in reader mode and turn off much of that, but it takes too much discipline that the paper Bible enforces on me.

    Also, my paper Bible's batteries have never run down ;-).

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭

    Even when using Logos have a paper version handy- sorry I'm not a purist [:D]

  • Sean Collins
    Sean Collins Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    Perhaps a little off topic, but I am looking at fountain pens for journaling and note taking. Any recommendations for a beginner? Thanks in advance!

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭

    Even when using Logos have a paper version handy- sorry I'm not a purist Big Smile

    And if I could get Logos to print out the NET on 8.5x11 with footnotes I would have it in a 4' 3 ring binder [:)]

  • Jack Hairston
    Jack Hairston Member Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭
  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Sean:

    You might get better answers by posting this in another thread - but then there may be some who will start complaining because your question is not related to LOGOS.  Regardless, I can give you a partial answer:

    For highlighting in a paper Bible, I have found a good set of crayons works wonders without bleeding through.  I like the "Twistable" line from Crayola as a good compromise between true highlighters and the boxed crayons we used as kids.  The Twistables are sealed in plastic and are not as subject to breakage as the old boxed crayons:

    They also make colored pencils in a twistable format that might be useful, though I have not tried these.

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • David A Egolf
    David A Egolf Member Posts: 798 ✭✭

    I haven't opened a paper Bible in years.

    For study, I read on an iPad tablet.  I find that it is easier to take notes and control their location much easier on a tablet.  I even have developed a stock process of highlighting (while creating a new note file, if necessary), copying the highlight, editing the highlight to become a note, adjusting the note title, pasting the entire highlight INTO the note, then adding any of my own comments.  Thus, my note file becomes quite readable in its own way.

    I research new topics on a PC where its easier to perform complex searches and build folders in favorites.  Also, I can process my notes and copy / paste into presentation material as I prepare class notes.

    I tend to use the free ESV Bible app on my tablet in the pew.  It has been greatly improved in the last year and I find it a lot faster than Logos for verse lookup.  There I take sermon notes on the bulletin because I don't expect to archive the content.

  • Bryce Hufford
    Bryce Hufford Member Posts: 89 ✭✭

    I got back into paper Bibles after 5 years due to the Bible design 'fad'!

    I carry a Pitt-Minion ESV to church and have a reader's edition ESV at home for family devotions.

    I love Logos but there is something about these paper Bibles that is unparalleled by the digital age.

    This is exactly what prompted my original post.  I have been nearly all digital with iPad or iPhone at church and laptop or desktop for home study.  I'm thinking about getting a nice, high quality leather Bible with some Christmas money.  I've done some research over the past week and there are some really beautiful high quality Bibles out there.

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps a little off topic, but I am looking at fountain pens for journaling and note taking. Any recommendations for a beginner? Thanks in advance!

    Fountain pens demand a bit of discipline, but if you want something well made at a very reasonable price, look at a Pilot Metropolitan and get the Con-50 converter to fill from a bottle. Or look at some of the lower price Cross pens. I avoid cartridges because you pay a lot for the convenience and bottle fill wets the nib which is very practical. You also have the freedom to choose an ink that best works for you.

    If you need more info check out this forum: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  •  I like hearing about the methods others use in their Bible study.

    Thankful can use screen capture of Logos 6 and paste to create parallel passages with highlighting showing range of verbal expression.  Attached Ephesians parallel example of NA28 and AV 1873:

    1830.EphesiansNA28-AV1873.docx

    Printed handouts are useful in facilities where electronic devices are not allowed.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    I used to be a paper Bible and journal guy, then after having Logos a couple years, I changed up and did all my reading and notes on Logos. Just recently though I've switched back (after about 2 years). I find that I comprehend and remember the text better on a paper Bible. I still use Logos for Bible study, but use my paper Bible for regular morning reading (although I definitely still often look up a passage or 2 with Logos while in my devotional reading time).  I still use Logos for notes I take on the Bible, but for morning devotion notes (which I consider different) I use a paper journal. It seems to stick with me way better for some reason. I don't know if It's because of the quick-scan nature of the internet or what, but my mind seems to read and forget most digital text. I'm excited about some of the new reader friendly Bible's being released lately like Crossway's Reader versions, and the new kickstarter Bibliotheca!

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,101

    Pastors, Ministers, Evangelist, etc. have a certain look rather they carry a leather Bible or not, bu those not familiar with church will not readily recognize that look. So, a leather Bible still has visual impact, as a doctors stethoscope and labcoat does. Smile

    There are "Bible-look" phone cases selling. Maybe logos could provide also their own?

    As an engineer I don't trust technology, so I use also paper. Paper books and maps often serve as additional screens, and they do not change read location unexpected.

    How about a cylindrical scroll-look screen for the Hebrew enthusiasts? May look cool when you use it in a crowded place [H]

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

    I always carry a paper Bible to the pulpit 

    I use Logos at church except when I am on the pulpit - mostly for Scripture reading then it is paper Bible.  

    When doing a church presentation I have power point running but with my paper Bible in hand.

    In class or Bible study it is Logos.  

    Was in one Bible study where I was studying the presenters methods where someone asked a question that the presenter could not answer off the top of his head. The presenter turned to me and asked me to look it up.  Logos came to the rescue. Lesson learned: Always have a second in the room.

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

     I like hearing about the methods others use in their Bible study.

    Thankful can use screen capture of Logos 6 and paste to create parallel passages with highlighting showing range of verbal expression.  Attached Ephesians parallel example of NA28 and AV 1873:

    1830.EphesiansNA28-AV1873.docx

    Printed handouts are useful in facilities where electronic devices are not allowed.

    Keep Smiling Smile

    Very Nice shot [;)]

    I have been trying to print the NET with Higlighting and its footnotes but so far unsuccesful- any ideas?

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭

    I haven't used a paper Bible regularly for years.... in the glove box i keep a small pocket NJB leather, and on my prayer desk there is a NOAB 3rd A. but it is only occasionally used, but some times I do feel the need to turn to it where I am studying and read it on paper. But this action is more a way of reminding me when i return of the insight I had yesterday....

    -Dan

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭

    The one great advantage of using a paper Bible is knowing that most of the people we teach or preach to are using one as well.

    One thing I've started to do lately is to print out the text one verse per line in Logos and just mark it up as I study. It's very interactive and I see a lot more. 

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

     I like hearing about the methods others use in their Bible study.

    Thankful can use screen capture of Logos 6 and paste to create parallel passages with highlighting showing range of verbal expression.  Attached Ephesians parallel example of NA28 and AV 1873:

    1830.EphesiansNA28-AV1873.docx

    Printed handouts are useful in facilities where electronic devices are not allowed.

    Keep Smiling Smile

    That is quite a useful work of art!  Thanks.

    Does anyone keep paper bibles around to give away?  I have a stack in the closet for that, but they are dusty.  

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭

    Gao Lu said:

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

     I like hearing about the methods others use in their Bible study.

    Thankful can use screen capture of Logos 6 and paste to create parallel passages with highlighting showing range of verbal expression.  Attached Ephesians parallel example of NA28 and AV 1873:

    1830.EphesiansNA28-AV1873.docx

    Printed handouts are useful in facilities where electronic devices are not allowed.

    Keep Smiling Smile

    That is quite a useful work of art!  Thanks.

    Does anyone keep paper bibles around to give away?  I have a stack in the closet for that, but they are dusty.  

    I use to buy cases of pew bibles NIV and NASB- to just hand out- it helps to put books in peoples hands- especially sinners- why? the Lord works through his word and you never know when they find themselves responding to Him- having that within their reach just makes it all the easier for the brother or sister who is in their way to minister to them.

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Paper/Leather Bibles are a universal medium for handing out. Handing out Tablets with eBibles loaded will most likely not be an economical way to go for some time. For those of us very serious and heavily involved in study, Logos can't be beat.

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Pastors, Ministers, Evangelist, etc. have a certain look rather they carry a leather Bible or not, bu those not familiar with church will not readily recognize that look. So, a leather Bible still has visual impact, as a doctors stethoscope and labcoat does. Smile

    There are "Bible-look" phone cases selling. Maybe logos could provide also their own?

    As an engineer I don't trust technology, so I use also paper. Paper books and maps often serve as additional screens, and they do not change read location unexpected.

    How about a cylindrical scroll-look screen for the Hebrew enthusiasts? May look cool when you use it in a crowded place Cool

    Logos does have a case, although it doesn't look like a bible. https://www.logos.com/product/38233/logos-iphone-5-cover

    You can never trust technology so much as to not have a backup. I use Logos a lot, almost exclusively for much needed study, but if the lights go out, it is good to know that you can bring out the paper/leather Bible and a candle. :-)

    Thinking of Hebrew, my optometrist has a Hebrew eye chart in his office. I've been meaning to ask him where he got it from. Have to get one of those. :-)

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    I use print Bibles principally when I'm praying in churches and chapels.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Bill Anderson
    Bill Anderson Member Posts: 603 ✭✭
    I have a Cambridge Clarion ESV, which is a goatskin cover, single-column format black-letter premium Bible. The binding is very limp and lays down flat anywhere you open it. It is beautiful and well-crafted in every respect. No Logos-formatted version can touch it.
  • Gao Lu said:

    Does anyone keep paper bibles around to give away?

    Yes.  Prisons have physical book limits for residents while halfway houses let clients have more.  Study Bibles are popular.

    I have been trying to print the NET with Higlighting and its footnotes but so far unsuccesful- any ideas?

    Logos Resource has Column display with option to "Show footnotes on page":

    Logos 6 can print the NET Bible with Footnotes:

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • P A
    P A Member Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭
  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭

    I carry a paper Bible to worship, but use Logos for everything else.

    The advantage of the paper Bible is, paradoxically, that it does not include instant access to the study tools and resources that could distract me from what is being done and said in the worship service.  Church is intended to be a communal experience, and I'm far too distractible.  For me, it's better to be limited to the text that we are all reading or studying together.

  • Joseph Sollenberger
    Joseph Sollenberger Member Posts: 123 ✭✭✭

    Joseph F. Sollenberger, Jr.

  • P A said:

    What is NOAB 3rd?

    New Oxford Annotated Bible 4th Edition is available, albeit not in Logos.

    Zondervan offers First Century Study Bible

    Personal paper favorite is Large Print Thompson Chain Reference Bible, which is useful for topical studies.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,101

    Some warning may be necessary:

    http://www.psypost.org/2015/12/brain-scans-show-compulsive-gaming-changes-neural-connections-for-better-and-worse-39914 

    Compulsive use of Logos may rewire our brains? 

    Whether this is good or bad, I don't know. If I begin to live in virtual ancient Near Eastern world, it may be do good for understanding the Scriptures?

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

  • Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell
    Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell Member Posts: 745 ✭✭✭

    Because I'm a lifelong fountain pen lover my daily Bible Study is in a paper bible (currently NASB with paper notes), and that will never change. But once I'm done a book, all my notes get scanned into my One Note Bible notebook and recycled. But I also use Logos during my study when/if I need to look things up.

    The one place I *do* use all electronic oddly enough is at church on Sundays. I use a Surface Pro 2 and so use it to take sermon notes in One Note with Logos on as well.

    My One Note Bible notebook is divided into 66 tabs, one for each book of the Bible. Inside those tabs it's broken down into tabs for each week of study (I use Kay Arthur's materials) plus an extra tab for Sermons relating to that book.

  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    Gao Lu said:

    Does anyone keep paper bibles around to give away?

    Yes.  Prisons have physical book limits for residents while halfway houses let clients have more.  Study Bibles are popular.

    I have been trying to print the NET with Higlighting and its footnotes but so far unsuccesful- any ideas?

    Logos Resource has Column display with option to "Show footnotes on page":

    Logos 6 can print the NET Bible with Footnotes:

    Keep Smiling Smile

    Thanks KS4J

    Copy Bible Verse allows me to do it as well- did not find this out till after I posted- have the NT already to print, will be doing the OT soon- looks great so far- and yes its because the old eyes need a little help.

  • Matt Hamrick
    Matt Hamrick Member Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭

    I use Logos Bible Software for any serious study I am doing, but I carry a paper bible to church and I read a paper Greek New Testament because I do not want to be influenced by the software. But other than my print bible and print GNT every other resource I own is now digital. Ultimately, I will buy a print Hebrew bible to read (again so I am not influenced by the software) later. All serious personal study though is done using the software.

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,319

    For sermon prep, I always export the text, triple spaced and with wide margins and print it. I can process better like that, and so can you.