500 Book Mega Pack for $500
https://www.logos.com/product/55680/500-book-mega-pack-2015-edition
It's mostly public domain stuff, but it's worth checking out. Just looking at what's 'new to me', I see:
- The James Orr Collection (21 vols.)
- John Williamson Nevin Collection (13 vols.)
- John William Colenso Pentateuch Collection (17 vols.)
- William Burt Pope Collection (5 vols.)
- Austen Henry Layard Collection (10 vols.)
- The Life and Works of Horatius Bonar (47 vols.)
- The Works of W. D. Conybeare (3 vols.)
- William Cowper Collection (6 vols.)
- Alexander Souter Studies in Early Christianity Collection (7 vols.)
- Harry Angus Alexander Kennedy Collection (6 vols.)
- William Henry Simcox Collection (3 vols.)
- The Evangelical Succession Lecture Series (3 vols.)
- The Historical Bible (6 vols.)
- The Messages of the Bible (11 vols.)
Orr, Cowper and Bonar were on my wishlist, and for me the pack is quite a bit cheaper than Bonar by himself.
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Thanks for pointing this out. I had not seen it yet. Now it's time to go review the "new to me" list.
Mark Barnes said:for me the pack is quite a bit cheaper than Bonar by himself.
The same thing goes for me. Bonar is also on my wish list.
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Mark Barnes said:
It's mostly public domain stuff, but it's worth checking out. Just looking at what's 'new to me', I see:
I'm seeing a few as well, but I'm hesitant to lay out the cash. I do wish they linked directly to all of the included collections so I could convince myself. [;)]
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Logos did this in 2013 too. Is this mega pack as good as the one offered then?
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I appreciate their effor but these public domain titles just do not compare to the Library Builders from a few years ago. Seems like most of the offerings now lack creativity and value.
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Ronald Quick said:
Logos did this in 2013 too. Is this mega pack as good as the one offered then?
Pretty similar, really. Although it's public domain, a good proportion of it is 16th and 17th century, which (in my opinion at least) produced much better biblical and theological scholarship than the 19th century public domain stuff.
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Todd Hinton said:
I appreciate their effor but these public domain titles just do not compare to the Library Builders from a few years ago.
The library builders are still being produced. For example, the Wesleyan and Methodist Library builder has just come out today. But they're different from the mega packs. The mega packs are put together for a very limited period whereas the library builders are more long term.
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It is a package well worth purchasing. A bit dated, of course, but it is quality old stuff, much of it aged well like fine wine.
Alas, this makes two such offers I would have seriously considered before the changes in payment plans, but not now. Which probably means Logos saved me some money (needed for those nine grandchildren's Christmas toys) and kept their cash flow healthy.
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I purchased this at the dynamic price. After purchase, the product indicates a many times higher price and is not greyed out. There is some problem here. I do have an entry in my orders file for the purchase.
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Bloomsbury Bundle > 500 Mega Pack.
$3 books > $1 books.
For me, 500 Mega Pack is filled with unwanted/unpopular community pricing books. And although somewhat it can be said the same for Bloomsbury Bundle (the unpopular part), Bloomsbury is much more valuable.
I got few complaints for Logos:
- Why can't Logos tell us on the page how many new books are for us? I'm tired counting manually all the time, especially this many books.
- Please hyperlink the books under "new to me" not the ones on the very bottom.
- Please tell us the name of bundles of those individuals are coming from..say example.. The Mystical Presence: A Vindication of the Reformed or Calvinistic Doctrine of the Holy Eucharist AND Vindication of the Revised Liturgy are in John Williamson Nevin Collection (13 vols.). Kinda like what Mark Barnes did on the top of this page.
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Michael A. Lasley said:
I purchased this at the dynamic price. After purchase, the product indicates a many times higher price and is not greyed out. There is some problem here. I do have an entry in my orders file for the purchase.
Same here. After buying it the price went up almost 17 times the original. Bonar is not grayed out. No downloads.
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mike said:
Why can't Logos tell us on the page how many new books are for us? I'm tired counting manually all the time, especially this many books.
Agreed. As a workaround, paste the list into Excel, and look at the number of the last cell in the table.
mike said:Please hyperlink the books under "new to me" not the ones on the very bottom.
If you hover, you can click on the title of the hover card (although it's quite slow to do that for many volumes).
mike said:Please tell us the name of bundles of those individuals are coming from..say example.
Agree 100%. For these big bundles, it would be much nicer if they were grouped together. It's really quite annoying when you're trying to evaluate a few hundred volumes only to discover they're all in the same eight or nine collections.
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Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Our unlocking systems are catching up with all the orders we've had this morning. We should be caught up soon, at which point you will see your new resources in your library and the PDP will reflect your ownership. Thanks for your patience!
Robert Harner said:Michael A. Lasley said:I purchased this at the dynamic price. After purchase, the product indicates a many times higher price and is not greyed out. There is some problem here. I do have an entry in my orders file for the purchase.
Same here. After buying it the price went up almost 17 times the original. Bonar is not grayed out. No downloads.
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Mark Barnes said:mike said:
Why can't Logos tell us on the page how many new books are for us? I'm tired counting manually all the time, especially this many books.
Agreed. As a workaround, paste the list into Excel, and look at the number of the last cell in the table.
mike said:Please hyperlink the books under "new to me" not the ones on the very bottom.
If you hover, you can click on the title of the hover card (although it's quite slow to do that for many volumes).
mike said:Please tell us the name of bundles of those individuals are coming from..say example.
Agree 100%. For these big bundles, it would be much nicer if they were grouped together. It's really quite annoying when you're trying to evaluate a few hundred volumes only to discover they're all in the same eight or nine collections.
- Yes, but still, Logos needs to make things easier to purchase not complicate it.
- Yes, I think we knew that, but wouldn't it be nicer if we don't have those pop-outs. They're really annoying, really.
- Thanks for grouping them
Logos' web person needs to see these & do something. Two or three times are cute, but when its the holiday season with plenty of sales... NOT cute all all.
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A comprehensive list of included collections would be a great addition to this product page.
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SineNomine said:
A comprehensive list of included collections would be a great addition to this product page.
I agree with all the suggestions for improvement here in the way Logos presents these bundles but at the same time am thankful for the improvements they have made, it wasn't that long ago we didn't have the New to You presentation on this pages and we had to email customer support and wait for someone to respond to us with a list. So thanks to the team putting these pages together for the improvements so far and I look forward to seeing continued improvement in the future.
As to the old complaint about these bundles being lots of PD stuff, we all know that PD titles are what these bundles are all about. So if your not into what has been written in the past that's fine - pass over these bundles, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, others will scourer these resources for hidden gems and sometimes find nuggets of wisdom. Some people like to read these gems and nuggets within the wider context of what the original author was saying rather than simply as standalone quotes by a a modern author. Logos is a business, they have to fund their ongoing success and if selling PD titles to those who are interested in them is one of the ways they can do this, if there are customers interested in these bundles then they should continue to offer them.
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I personally think it's great that Logos is producing public domain resources. Even though I can find them online, many times the text and format is so cumbersome that I don't bother working with it. When it's in Logos, it's much more usable to me.
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I've a chunk of what's in it, not sure just how many titles I'd use if I went for it.
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This is a very good deal. I only wish that I could buy it, but right now, financially I am not able to.
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I'd like to get it too, but don't think I can do it this year.
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Thank you all for the thoughtful discussion. I wanted to reassure you that your feedback is not falling on deaf ears. The "New to You" feature is quite recent, and we're still rolling that out across the balance of the collections we sell. We do have some very good designs that may allow us to "nest" resources within parent collections on these types of pages, and hope to have that working sometime in 2016. The question of "count" is a tricky one that we've spent considerable energy on, and that we also have a solid plan to improve on in the coming year.
We're proud of what the team was able to assemble in this year's Mega Pack. We hope many of you find value in it well beyond it's discounted price and are able to enjoy the significant contribution to your library.
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Thank you Mark.
I am not referring to the long term Library builders currently being offered, rather the very short-lived Library Builders offered a few years ago (2006-2007). See the attached link from the Logos Wiki. Those were great values (even though I missed the offering in 2007).
https://wiki.logos.com/Library_Builder
The Package offering you refer to above is still filled with public domain titles.There is still no comparison in my opinion
Respectfully,
Todd
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Thank you Mark.
I am not referring to the long term Library builders currently being offered, rather the very short-lived Library Builders offered a few years ago (2006-2007). See the attached link from the Logos Wiki. Those were great values (even though I missed the offering in 2007).
https://wiki.logos.com/Library_Builder
The Package offering you refer to above is still filled with public domain titles.There is still no comparison in my opinion
Respectfully,
Todd
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Todd Hinton said:
There is still no comparison in my opinion
I agree that they're completely different packages, and those Library Builders offered great value. Interesting, I didn't buy either of them, partly because there was no dynamic discount in those days, so everyone had to pay full price (I had about half the volumes already).
I think the modern equivalent to those Library Builders are the many base packages which are available all year around. They have a similar discount level to the Library Builders, and dynamic pricing makes them better value (IMO) than even the Library Builders were back in 2006-7.
What I personally like about the Mega Packs is that they include a lot of resources from outside the base packages.
Ultimately, I don't mind whether or not they're public domain works or copyrighted works. There are plenty of copyrighted works not worth reading, and plenty of public domain works that are well worth studying and pondering in depth.
For me, the Mega Pack includes some real treasures (particularly Bonar), and I was happy to add it to my library. Not everyone will feel the same, which is why Logos have such a wide range of resources, I guess.
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Mark Barnes said:
For me, the Mega Pack includes some real treasures (particularly Bonar), and I was happy to add it to my library. Not everyone will feel the same, which is why Logos have such a wide range of resources, I guess
Ok, I'll bite. The Bonar Collection brings me pretty close to my dynamic cost for the pack. Can you tell me why it's worth it to me?
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Mark Barnes said:
There are plenty of copyrighted works not worth reading, and plenty of public domain works that are well worth studying and pondering in depth.
Very true. [Y]
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TCBlack said:
Ok, I'll bite. The Bonar Collection brings me pretty close to my dynamic cost for the pack. Can you tell me why it's worth it to me?
It may be less valuable on your side of the pond. Horatius Bonar was an important figure in the Scottish church, even though we now know his brother Andrew rather better. He's particularly well known for his hymns, and some of his writings are still in print. His writings are important historically, because he was very well known in Scotland, and was part of the group that seceeded from the Church of Scotland to form the Free Church, and because he was one of the big driving forces behind premillenarianism becoming popular in places, and supported Edward Irving.
This list of quotes will give you an idea of his theology and writing style: https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/133605.Horatius_Bonar
Some chap called Phil Gons reviewed Bonar's most lasting work on his blog back in 2008.
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I had not yet decided if I was going to get the series but I finally made the choice to go for it at $1/volume is an excellent value. It is now indexing.
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Bruce Dunning said:Mark Barnes said:
There are plenty of copyrighted works not worth reading, and plenty of public domain works that are well worth studying and pondering in depth.
Very true.
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For me, there are works I won't bother to read because they're kind of old (I don't have a lot of interest in 19th century historical-critical biblical analysis, for example); yet, there are also works I end up reading simply because they are very old. Age and relevance are weakly correlated, but if something stays around long enough, a reverse correlation sometimes grows.
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I always enjoy the opportunity to add many volumes to my expanding Logos 6 library. It has nowhere near caught up to my print library I have on my shelves here at home. But the marvel of it is that I am now getting out of print works that I could not secure from bookstores.
Years ago I made many trips to the Kregel Bookstore and the Baker Book House, both of which then had very extensive second-hand Christian books.
In this 500 Book Mega Pack 2015 I am delighted to get the four volume autobiography of George Mueller. I've had the single-volume biography done by A. T. Pierson, so I'm looking forward to reading the original autobiography. Pastor Norman Douty of East Lansing, Michigan highly commended that resource to me should I ever find it. He and his wife had a huge collection (thousands of volumes) of Christian, especially missionary, biography they had collected over many years.
So, besides the collections listed in the Opening Post, I found many other gems well worth having in this Mega Pack offering.
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Glenn Airoldi said:
Thank you all for the thoughtful discussion. I wanted to reassure you that your feedback is not falling on deaf ears. The "New to You" feature is quite recent, and we're still rolling that out across the balance of the collections we sell. We do have some very good designs that may allow us to "nest" resources within parent collections on these types of pages, and hope to have that working sometime in 2016. The question of "count" is a tricky one that we've spent considerable energy on, and that we also have a solid plan to improve on in the coming year.
We're proud of what the team was able to assemble in this year's Mega Pack. We hope many of you find value in it well beyond it's discounted price and are able to enjoy the significant contribution to your library.
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I purchased this set and I'm wondering if anyone has the list for the 500 Book Mega Pack, 2015 Edition. I found a page that lists 3 sets and the OP lists a few others. But I actually cannot seem to find a nice way within Logos to look at everything I own other than scrolling, which I find cumbersome and slow, especially since I downloaded all those free Latin resources... I'll have to figure out how to delete those too.
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Dave Kinsella said:
But I actually cannot seem to find a nice way within Logos to look at everything I own other than scrolling, which I find cumbersome and slow, especially since I downloaded all those free Latin resources... I'll have to figure out how to delete those too.
I don't have a list of resources, sorry! If you are interested in learning more about the library or related issues, create a new thread and we'd love to help out. [:)]
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Hey Jerome,
Your post brought back many memories of my travels to Kregel and Baker stores. I live in Lansing so it was a short trip. I would always bring home a box of books.
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Fred,
I also live in Lansing. I, too, used to make regular book hauls from GR.
Lew
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Those were the days, indeed. I am thankful for all the resources I picked up, both old and new, for they have been a great blessing to me over these many years since. I then drove a little VW Beetle, and filled the back seat with boxes of books, and hauled them back to my apartment in Detroit quite a few times.
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