Who created God?

Susan W. Murphy
Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I'm teaching an Apologetics class and I need to do a search on Who Created God?  I'm not sure how to word the search.  What should I put to search my Logos Library?

Thanks,

Susan Murphy

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  • David P. Moore
    David P. Moore Member Posts: 610 ✭✭

    Hi Susan, well you could do a search in All Resources on "who created god" in quotes. A more focused search would involve creating a collection of just apolegitics resources (my rule is subject:apologetics OR author:geisler OR series:apologetics) and searching just that collection. 

    Some useful resources that came up in my library are:

    Ross, Hugh. The Creator and the Cosmos: How the Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God. Colorado Springs, CO: NavPress, 2001.

    Taylor, Paul. Truth, Lies and Science Education. Leominster, UK: Day One Publications, 2007.

    Got Questions Ministries. Got Questions? Bible Questions Answered. Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2002–2013.

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭

    I'm teaching an Apologetics class and I need to do a search on Who Created God?

    You may also wish to search such terms as, "uncaused first cause", "ontological argument", "cosmological argument", "law of causality", "ex nihilo nihil fit", etc. Use quotation marks around phrases.

    R. C. Sproul addresses this particular topic in a number of his resources. You may wish to search those specifically if you own them. I know there is a good section on this starting on page 168 in his book, "Not a Chance". It runs more than 20 pages and includes analyses of works like Bertrand Russell's rejection of God based on an invalid syllogism concerning God as a cause vs. God as an effect.

    There is a much shorter summary of the cosmological argument on p. 27 in Dan Story's book "Defending Your Faith", if you have that resource.

    Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,555

    I would also suggest a search on "origin of God" ... which does generate several false positives which can be skipped based on the preview.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • William Gabriel
    William Gabriel Member Posts: 1,091 ✭✭

    You wouldn't need this whole collection right now, but you'll find good stuff in the Apologetics Collection: https://www.logos.com/product/54299/apologetics-collection

    Vyrso could have some good options too: https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=Who+made+God

  • Susan W. Murphy
    Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭

    Thanks for these tips.  They're a tremendous help.

  • Susan W. Murphy
    Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭

    I've been doing this search and it's great.  Thanks so much for your help.

    Susan Murphy

  • Susan W. Murphy
    Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭

    I did the search and there were a lot of hits but most of them did not talk about the origin of God but about creation.

    Thanks for your suggestion.

    Susan Murphy

  • Susan W. Murphy
    Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭

    This is tremendous.  I would love to have this collection.  Maybe one day.

    Thanks,

    Susan Murphy

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Hi Susan;

    Just an FYI, if you hit the "quote" link when replying, whoever you are responding to will know that you are responding to them.

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭

    I did the search and there were a lot of hits but most of them did not talk about the origin of God but about creation.

    Thanks for your suggestion.

    Susan Murphy

    A much simpler search that might get you closer in the ballpark would be for "aseity", the term for God's existing of himself.

  • Susan W. Murphy
    Susan W. Murphy Member Posts: 177 ✭✭

    Sean said:

    I did the search and there were a lot of hits but most of them did not talk about the origin of God but about creation.

    Thanks for your suggestion.

    Susan Murphy

    A much simpler search that might get you closer in the ballpark would be for "aseity", the term for God's existing of himself.

    Thank you so much for this tip.  Searching on "aseity" produced many results for exactly what I need in discussing the origin of God with my Apologetics group.  This is a tremendous help.  This forum is really helping me.  Kudos to you!

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭

    Sean said:

    "aseity"

    Headslap.

    I knew I was leaving something important out. That was it. Good job, Sean.

    Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.

  • Milkman
    Milkman Member Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭

    You may also want to search "independence NEAR aseity" without the quote marks

    mm.

    Sean said:

    I did the search and there were a lot of hits but most of them did not talk about the origin of God but about creation.

    Thanks for your suggestion.

    Susan Murphy

    A much simpler search that might get you closer in the ballpark would be for "aseity", the term for God's existing of himself.

    Thank you so much for this tip.  Searching on "aseity" produced many results for exactly what I need in discussing the origin of God with my Apologetics group.  This is a tremendous help.  This forum is really helping me.  Kudos to you!

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Isn't it something of an oxymoron to speak of the creation of God?

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Isn't it something of an oxymoron to speak of the creation of God?

    Perhaps, unless you're young in years or young in the faith.

    Each of my children have wrestled with "Where did God come from?"  So also have various people in the church come to ask me such questions.  

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you.