Retiring the Send-to-Kindle Feature on 3/31
Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31. You'll be able to use the service through the end of the month. After that point, it will no longer work. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you.
Update: Books already sent to Kindle will not be affected by this change. You will be able to continue to enjoy them on your Kindle after 3/31.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you.
I'm glad that I haven't bought a Kindle. I feel sorry for you for all of the flak that you will probably receive from upset users.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31.
I imagine that you are about to update the page that you just linked to with a note that Send to Kindle is being retired.
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SineNomine said:
I imagine that you are about to update the page that you just linked to with a note that Send to Kindle is being retired.
Yes. We'll be updating all of our marketing communication shortly.
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SineNomine said:
all of the flak that you will probably receive from upset users
I think it would be sad if that happens. It sounds like there is no other option for Logos, that their hands are tied. We' just need to be glad we have had it for this amount of time.
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Is it possible to change to 100 page restriction on the export to word feature to make it easier for people to use Amazon's own "send to kindle" feature as a replacement?
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There will be obvious blow back in that several people claimed to have upgraded to 6 for only this reason. It is not something I ever used and am perfectly happy reading my FL products on my iPad.
-Dan
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This is terrible news. I rely on that feature, and it keeps my buying Logos books instead of Kindle books.
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Betcha the Upload button for Personal Books is next.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31. You'll be able to use the service through the end of the month. After that point, it will no longer work. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you.
Noooooo!!!!!
My only consolation is that it wasn't enabled on most of the books I wanted to transfer.
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Will this only limit the sending of additional resources? Will resources already sent to kindle continue to work?
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Bradley Ermeling said:
Will this only limit the sending of additional resources? Will resources already sent to kindle continue to work?
Great question, which I probably should have addressed in the original post. Once a resource is sent to Kindle, it will continue to work even after we retire the feature.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31.
Sigh. [:(]
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Robert M. Warren said:
Betcha the Upload button for Personal Books is next.
I, myself, doubt if the upload personal books feature will go away. I could be wrong, but it appears that the discrepancy between Faithlife and Amazon would be more legal than anything else. The personal book (PB) feature is exclusively Faithlife/Logos.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31.
[:'(]
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Mark Barnes said:
This is terrible news. I rely on that feature....
Mark (or anyone else) -- If you have a moment, can you elaborate, please? I'm interested because I used the feature at first, but eventually found it redundant since I could access my FL resources in a FL mobile app.
This question arises from more than mere curiosity. If there's a compelling reason to use the kindle in this way, I might spend a bit of time over the next 24 days or so taking advantage of the feature before it goes away.
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Lew Worthington said:
Mark (or anyone else) -- If you have a moment, can you elaborate, please? I'm interested because I used the feature at first, but eventually found it redundant since I could access my FL resources in a FL mobile app.
This question arises from more than mere curiosity. If there's a compelling reason to use the kindle in this way, I might spend a bit of time over the next 24 days or so taking advantage of the feature before it goes away.
Personally, I prefer to read on a Kindle Paperwhite over a computer/phone/tablet. Nothing beats the Logos universe for research: notes, cross-references and everything else that falls under the umbrella of research. But when I need to simply read a block of text efficiently, the paperwhite experience is second to none.
I did not find an efficient way to transfer highlights and notes back to Logos, but going through that process manually provides some good review.
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Double sigh.alabama24 said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31.
Sigh.
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William Gabriel said:
Personally, I prefer to read on a Kindle Paperwhite over a computer/phone/tablet. Nothing beats the Logos universe for research: notes, cross-references and everything else that falls under the umbrella of research. But when I need to simply read a block of text efficiently, the paperwhite experience is second to none.
Precisely.
If I want to read my Logos books on an eInk display, I'm now going to be forced to buy e-Ink Android devices and use the Logos app on there. That's going to cost me the best part of $200 [:(].
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Mark Barnes said:
If I want to read my Logos books on an eInk display, I'm now going to be forced to buy e-Ink Android devices and use the Logos app on there. That's going to cost me the best part of $200
.If you find a good one, let us know about it.
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Sad as Kindle is my device of choice for many purposes. I suppose I should spend the rest of the month sending resources over.
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Thank you for clarifying. Just downloaded 93 items.
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William Gabriel said:
If you find a good one, let us know about it.
I've ordered a Boyue T62+, on the advice of this thread. I know it won't be perfect, but it looks like it will have to do.
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Actually, for me, this feature was one reason to buy a Kindle device last summer - reading stuff in glaring sunlight.Dan Francis said:There will be obvious blow back in that several people claimed to have upgraded to 6 for only this reason.
Not that I did use this feature a lot, but I could have. This still is sad news.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Erwin Stull, Sr. said:
doubt if the upload personal books feature will go away.
No, not for Amazon, etc. reasons. But, we have been told on the Android forum that syncing to mobile hasn't happened yet because of copyright/piracy concerns, rather than overwhelming technical issues. From that perspective, there is no difference between uploading a PB for desktop sync and uploading the same PB for mobile sync.
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It's still very easy to send text to a Kindle. Just a few extra steps.
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This is a sad day.
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This disappointing development raises this question:
Are there any other features, advertised and purchased as part of Logos 6, that are liable to stop working? Perhaps I am naive, but I thought that unless a feature was advertised as time limited (like two year access to Logos Books) then it should continue to function because it was purchased as part of a program. I have purchased other software that became dated, but never stopped doing what it did when used within the OS for which it was designed.
If the issue is Amazon, then could not an alternative be provided e.g. export as epub to our own HDD?
If the issue is a particular publisher or books bought after the Logos 6 purchase, could not the functionality be retained for books purchased by a set date? If the issue is not Amazon, then I don't understand how some ebook export feature cannot be retained.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Due to a combination of technical, legal, and permission issues outside our control, we're going to retire the send-to-Kindle feature on 3/31. You'll be able to use the service through the end of the month. After that point, it will no longer work. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you.
Update: Books already sent to Kindle will not be affected by this change. You will be able to continue to enjoy them on your Kindle after 3/31.
I am guessing the following suggestion would be an impossibility based on my exegesis of your use of the words "combination of" and "permission issues." However, if this is an Amazon-only dispute, it would be nice if Logos considered enabling a create ePub feature.
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I would be surprised if this had anything to do with Amazon. 'Technical' sounds like it's on Faithlife's end, and 'legal' and 'permission' sound like publsihers. My speculating little two cents.
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Robert M. Warren said:
Betcha the Upload button for Personal Books is next.
<<SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!>>
He didn't say nuthin'!
I agree it is too bad to see Send To Kindle go away, but really, it's not very hard to do the old fashioned way. What is lost other than a couple steps?
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