Video Tutorial: How to Send to Kindle after the "Send to Kindle" service is switched off
Faithlife have announced that on 31 March 2016, they're disabling their "Send to Kindle" service. That means you won't be able to automatically send Logos resource to Kindle. There's good news though. You can still send Logos resources to a Kindle device, it just takes a little longer (about 10 minutes per resource). These walkthrough will guide you through that process.
And there's more good news: It's a lot simpler than it used to be in Logos 5 days.
First, here's the video: https://youtu.be/ANfakC6QSlw
Or, if you prefer, here are instructions:
- Download the Send to Kindle software from www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle and install it.
- In Program Settings, make sure "Copy footnotes" reflects your preference.
- Open the resource you want to send, and on the resource menu:
- Reduce the text size to the minimum possible.
- Make sure "Show footnotes on page" is off.
- Choose Print/Export
- Press CTRL+A then CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to remove all hyperlinks.
- If you want, remove the formatting from old hyperlinks by clicking in one, then choose "Select text with similar formatting". The set the font to automatic, and removing the underline.
- Repeat the above step for the footnotes, and for any hyperlinks in italics.
- Find a chapter heading in the document, and again choose "Select Text with similar formatting".
- Right-click on the Heading 1 style and choose "Update to Match Selection". That will ensure your chapter headings appear in your TOC.
- Repeat the step above for level 2 headings, if desired.
- If your document has a Table of Contents, you can delete it (the links no longer work, anyway). Replace it with a Word TOC, by clicking on the References tab and choosing "Table of Contents". The style doesn't matter, but I prefer a custom TOC with "show page numbers" deselected. If you want to show
- Save your document.
That's it! The whole process should take less than 10 minutes.
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You are a champ, Mark Barnes.
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Thanks, Mark! Great summary and video.
FWIW - maybe I've just had bad luck, but I've found that I won't get a fully native Kindle Table of Contents, even having applied Heading 1, 2, etc., unless I actually create a Word "table of contents" at the very end of the document.
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Thanks so much for sharing Mark. It will offer hope to many.
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I don't have a kindle yet, but I will when Amazon create a bigger kindle. So, this is great!
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Has anyone tried this on a Mac? If I type "Page i-9999" in the reference box and press enter, I get no response, and I can't get the send to kindle printer to show any paper size bigger than A4 in Logos.
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Does this method preserve internal footnote functionality where footnotes in the text on the Kindle appear as clickable links that display the footnote as a popup? I understand links to external resources won't work, I just really like how the footnotes currently work.
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danwdoo said:
Does this method preserve internal footnote functionality where footnotes in the text on the Kindle appear as clickable links that display the footnote as a popup? I understand links to external resources won't work, I just really like how the footnotes currently work.
Yes, it preserves footnotes.
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Mark this video is very, very helpful. I (and many others) truly appreciate you taking the time to make it.
Thank you.
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Fr Devin Roza said:
FWIW - maybe I've just had bad luck, but I've found that I won't get a fully native Kindle Table of Contents, even having applied Heading 1, 2, etc., unless I actually create a Word "table of contents" at the very end of the document.
You're right — this does seem unreliable, and creating a Word TOC seems to be the answer.
I've found that it doesn't need to be at the end of the document. You can replace the TOC at the beginning of your document instead. I'll see if I can edit that into the video!
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I can still download those files from Amazon without a problem. Not from the first page you see, but if you click on "All Files" and then My Send-to-Kindle docs. Does that not work for you?
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Absolutely brilliant Mark. Many thanks, I've always wanted to know how to quickly reformat TOCs in Word like that
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Liam said:
Mark will the hyperlinks to preferred Bible translations in the Bible references still show up as footnotes as they did with the send to kindle feature when using this method?
No, unfortunately.
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James McAdams said:
Has anyone tried this on a Mac? If I type "Page i-9999" in the reference box and press enter, I get no response, and I can't get the send to kindle printer to show any paper size bigger than A4 in Logos.
Im also on a Mac. Im having issues with this as well. I don't think the printer size feature has ever worked for me, and is something that Logos has yet to implement for the Mac version. It has always had no options. The page count works sometimes, but for very large resources it lags painfully slow. I waited forever for Matthew Henry's commentary this morning and ended up just giving up on it.
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Liam said:
I don't think the printer size feature has ever worked for me, and is something that Logos has yet to implement for the Mac version.
Does this help? https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18619?locale=en_US
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Mark Barnes said:Liam said:
I don't think the printer size feature has ever worked for me, and is something that Logos has yet to implement for the Mac version.
Does this help? https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18619?locale=en_US
Mark, in Logos I was able to get the basic sizes to show up by installing "send to kindle" and setting it up. As for the Mac settings menu, mine is a bit different than the one linked here, and I have many options in it to choose from. My problem is that even when I select them from settings, none of the larger than average options show in Logos for some reason.
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Is there a way to filter the library to only show resources that have not been sent to kindle? Or can we automatically create a collection of not sent-to-kindle resources?
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Jim Poulsen said:
Is there a way to filter the library to only show resources that have not been sent to kindle? Or can we automatically create a collection of not sent-to-kindle resources?
No, sorry.
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Mark,
Thank you very much for making the time to create the video. I haven't used the Logos Send to Kindle feature as much as others have, but it was very convenient and I'm sorry it's being removed. Having seen your video however takes much of the bite out of the loss of this feature in Logos for occasional users. It's nice to know there is still a way to get the job done. [:)]
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Thanks for taking the time to make and explain this. Losing the send to kindle feature is a huge bummer, this is a great help.
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Liam,
I was able to get A2 paper size to show up in Logos for Mac by installing an Epson SPro 3880 driver (even though I don't have that printer). I setup a dummy printer in OS X and then selected it in Logos.
Jeremy
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How did you install the driver, exactly? Thanks!
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Search for the driver and download it from the Epson website. It will be a pkg file. After the driver is installed add a new printer through OS X and point it to any IP address and manually select the printer model as Epson spro 3880.
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Thanks, Jeremy. I didn't know to set it up with a fake IP. Works perfectly.
ALSO, for those on Mac who are not getting the pages to update to the selected pages. Try this:
1. Make sure the notch is in the "Use these sections" circle and something is checked.
2. In the Page Box, input your page criteria "i-9999" or whatever.
3. THEN, click on the notch next to the box. It SHOULD update then. That's what worked for me.
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Can't figure out how to edit my last post, but I tried my own method again and it didn't work.
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Aaron W said:
Can't figure out how to edit my last post
There is a brief window which allows users to edit their post. This is an "anti-spam" measure... (one trick is to create a post that seemingly fits and edit it later to add spam).
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If you enter the page numbers and then click back to one of the other selections and then back to the page number radio button it will sometimes update. However in order to get it to select the indexes in one book I had to use the section selection and just pick all of them including the indexes. It wouldn't get the indexes via page number.
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Mark, first thanks for the video - great to know, you can bet I''l be using it ;-) I have one question though; one of the books I would like to convert and send to my Kindle is longer than 100npages (even after making the mods you suggest). I would assume that means I need to make two (or more) passes. Would the proper procedure be pass 1 - pass two (send to open Word doc (at cursor) - etc. until all is moved over? If yes, the preview images in the export window is so small I can't read it - so how would I know where to start the next cycle?
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jwsheets said:
Would the proper procedure be pass 1 - pass two (send to open Word doc (at cursor) - etc. until all is moved over? If yes, the preview images in the export window is so small I can't read it - so how would I know where to start the next cycle?
Yes.
In those circumstances I do the following:
- Send the first block to Word in the normal way.
- Look in Word to see how far you've got. Copy the last sentence to the clipboard.
- In the Logos resource, press Home then CTRL+F, and paste in the sentence to find that location in your Logos resource. It's Command+↑ then Command+F on a Mac.
- Temporarily turn on the page numbers visual filter to see where the current page begins, and remember the page number.
- Delete a small amount of text from your Word document so that your text in Word ends at the end of the previous Logos page. Make sure there's a space at the end of your Word document so the next text won't run into your existing text.
- Turn off the page number visual filter.
- Re-run the whole procedure, but this time type page XXX-9999, where XXX is the page number you remembered in step 4. Send it to the open Word document instead of a new Word document.
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I was excited to see this video. However, it is not working for me. I'm following the steps carefully, but when I get to the step to Print/Export and enter "page i-9999" or "page 1-9999" Logos does not update the page numbers. The only way I'm able to select multiple pages is to click the boxes under "use these sections." That becomes tedious when there are many boxes to check for a resource. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
Thanks for all your videos! They are very much appreciated!
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Thank you for the advice, did work with Mac too
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Anyone know how to 'select text with similar formatting' on a mac - it doesn't seem seen to be a feature in the mac version.
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Thank you so much, Mark! Great video. Very thorough.
I had one issue, which I eventually managed to solve. So I thought I'd share in case anyone else is trying to do the same thing and running into the same problem.
The resource I converted was Berkhof's Systematic Theology, and I really wanted four levels in the table of contents. I set up the headings (1-4) without too much trouble, and everything looked good in the navigation pane. But I didn't get a table of contents the first time I sent the file to Kindle. Then I added the table of contents in the Word document, as suggested in the discussion above, and when I re-sent it, I did get the table of contents, but it only had two levels.
I searched all over trying to find out why, and I finally ran across something that suggested the conversion couldn't handle more than one indentation. That explained it. The first level (heading 1) had no indentation, the second level (heading 2) had one indentation, but the third and fourth levels and two and three indentations. So they were either ignored or lost in the conversion.
I went back into Word, clicked on the table of contents (just anywhere inside it), went to the References Tab, and selected "Table of Contents" and then "Custom Table of Contents" and then in the window that opened selected "Modify." From there, I was able to adjust the indentation so that all four levels showed up in the Kindle table of contents.
In doing this, you obviously lose the visual nesting (each descending level isn't indented one step further to the right), but that doesn't seem to be an option. Fortunately in this resource, levels 3 and 4 had roman numerals and letters proceeding them, so it's not too difficult to distinguish them. It's not ideal, but it's a lot better than not having those levels in the table of contents at all. So I'm happy.
Thanks again, Mark. Your video was extremely helpful!
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I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle. I certainly use my Kindle as a preferred reader. This makes it hard for me to use my Logos library when I am away from home. My iPhone Plus screen is small for older eyes. I am a retired lay person and cannot readily upgrade to Logos 6, or now 7; I am still on Logos 5.
Can someone please send me instructions on how to send the Basics of Biblical Hebrew Vocabulary App to my Kindle Fire using My Macbook Pro and Logos 5? (The instructions above imply it is more difficult and probably a different process for Logos 5.) Thank you.
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HI Caryn - and welcome to the forums
Caryn DeVore said:I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle
I don't understand - as far as I knew the Logos apps were still supported on Kindle Fire as per https://community.logos.com/forums/p/131783/857559.aspx#857559
Caryn DeVore said:I am a retired lay person and cannot readily upgrade to Logos 6, or now 7
As above I don't think is the issue to focus on - at least initially - but the free Logos 6 engine is available at https://www.logos.com/support/install_logos_6 and the free Logos 7 engine should be available next month. Upgrading to Logos 6 is recommended as 5 is no longer supported.
Caryn DeVore said:Can someone please send me instructions on how to send the Basics of Biblical Hebrew Vocabulary App to my Kindle Fire using My Macbook Pro and Logos 5?
I know I haven't answered this question but, hopefully, if we can work out why you aren't able to use the Logos apps on Kindle Fire it won't be necessary!
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Caryn DeVore said:
I don't understand the reasoning behind dropping the Vyrso application from Kindle. I certainly use my Kindle as a preferred reader.
As Graham said, "welcome!" [:)]
I think he gave you what you needed, but for clarification: The announcement about "send to kindle" does not refer to Kindle Fire devices. The "send to kindle" service was a way to get Logos resources on the eInk (non-fire) kindle devices, which don't run apps.
Also, Faithlife develops mobile apps for iOS & Android. The Kindle Fire devices run a modified version of Android. Consequently, they have a greater say over which apps they sell in their app store and/or allow to run on their devices. If you continue to have issues with your fire, you should create a new thread in the ANDROID forum. That will allow you to get the best help possible.
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Mark Barnes said:
Press CTRL+A then CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to remove all hyperlinks.
On Word for Mac 2016, here is the equivalent: "If you want to remove multiple hyperlinks, press
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Mark Barnes said:
clicking in one, then choose "Select text with similar formatting"
If this is possible in Word for Mac 2016, I don't know how.
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alabama24 said:
If this is possible in Word for Mac 2016
Yes it is, while in the home view on the ribbon, click on the styles pane in the upper right corner, then you will see a button on the right of that pane that says "select all". Just be sure you are clicked in an area containing the style you'd like to select all instances of
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Would this announcement make things any different?
https://goodereader.com/blog/indie-author-news/kindle-create-available-to-all-authors
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I can't adjust font size on my kindle after I down Load the file. Did I do something wrong or is that the way it is?
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Mark Barnes said:Jim Poulsen said:
Is there a way to filter the library to only show resources that have not been sent to kindle? Or can we automatically create a collection of not sent-to-kindle resources?
No, sorry.
The only thing you could start doing is look at the books you've sent to Kindle, then tag them with "Kindle" using Library tags, and do this each time you send one to your Kindle, to keep track of it.
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Are there any advantages to Mark's method versus exporting to PDF instead?
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Nathan Parker said:
Are there any advantages to Mark's method versus exporting to PDF instead?
The text is reflowable, therefore much better suited for a small e-reader screen.
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Do I have to have Word for this procedure? I am on a Mac and have Pages but I cannot figure out how to select by "style" as Mark shows. Is this a Microsoft thing? I can do it by hand but it's tedious......
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Hello, I am using the latest version of logos, Word, and running the lates MacOS Mojave. I followed your steps but when I paste, send to microsoft word, etc. It's only pasting the last chapter of the book. It's so frustrating
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Did you miss out on step 6 where you need to reference the entire book?David Kim said:Hello, I am using the latest version of logos, Word, and running the lates MacOS Mojave. I followed your steps but when I paste, send to microsoft word, etc. It's only pasting the last chapter of the book. It's so frustrating
And, in Logos, I am under the 100 page threshold for the whole book so I don't know what's going on. Any help? 0
