Am I expecting too much?

MJ. Smith

See VERBUM TIP of the day: highlighting all passages in the daily lectionary: for layout and context.

I have a visual filter document based upon a passage list.

I have the list open.

I have a Bible open that is showing highlights from the visual filter document.

I add a passage to the passage list.

How long should I expect to wait for the highlight to appear in the Bible? The answer appears to be forever ...

Does an update of the Passage List not trigger the update of the Visual Filter document and hense the Bible?

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Graham Criddle

Does an update of the Passage List not trigger the update of the Visual Filter document and hense the Bible?

From some testing I have done it looks as though the VF reads the PL contents when it is created and stays with that set of verses.

To effect a change you need to refresh the VF - replace the range with something else and then bring the PL back in.

I can envisage that making this change dynamic would have some performance implications.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816631#Comment_816631

I wouldn't mind (much) if I had to close and reopen but if I have to play games by swapping lists in and out I'd consider it a big fat bug.

I will admit I already have to play a bit of a game to get the highlighting but it is somethings that I've needed for so long ... and I'm hoping I can use it to fake the system out to get what I really want - a list of the passages NOT in the list.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816632#Comment_816632

I would mind (much) if I had to close and reopen

You can close and reopen the bible to refresh the PL being used.

I'm hoping I can use it to fake the system out to get what I really want - a list of the passages NOT in the list.

That could be a big undertaking if my understanding is correct, as you would have to merge the PL with a list of ALL passages in the bible.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816728#Comment_816728

That could be a big undertaking if my understanding is correct, as you would have to merge the PL with a list of ALL passages in the bible.

I'd like Logos to build an "inverse" of a Passage List function. Apparently concern that the entire Bible be covered is more a concern of groups that use lectionaries, prayer books, ISSL lessons etc. than of those groups where the choice of passage is a pastoral decision. But I am getting ever closer to what I want despite it not being an explicit feature - close enough that I'm finding it worth my while to build the Passage Lists ...[:D]

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816732#Comment_816732

I'm confused. "inverse" and logical NOT are mathematically not the same. Please explain what you want from the lists you build

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816739#Comment_816739

In Logos terms it is a "difference" between the two sets - all Bible / my list. Sorry for confusing you with imprecise language.

Eli Evans (Logos)

Does an update of the Passage List not trigger the update of the Visual Filter document and hense the Bible?

Lots of opportunities for failure: The Resource has to listen for changes in the Visual Filter which in turn has to listen for changes in the Passage List. Any panel that isn't listening or reporting changes at any point will break the chain.

Filed as a bug: My uninformed guess is that it's either an oversight or a deliberate performance optimization with unintended side effects (all that listening takes time). But in any case, not by design.

In the meantime, you can tickle it in the right spots to get the PL change to propagate over to the Bible view: On Windows, if you have both the PL and the VF document open, you can add the passage to the PL and then switching to the VF tab will trigger the change in the VF and then in the Bible text (after about 2sec on my machine). (Further experimentation might expose more tickle spots.)