JETS Tagging Problems

Hi Everyone,

I recently purchased the 42 Volume Journal of Evangelical Theological Society. After indexing, I began doing some test searches to see how it would interact with the default Journals section of the passage guide. I must say I've been very disappointed with the results.

I have found several examples of journal articles that I believe should show up in the passage guide, but do not. Furthermore, in several places the biblical reference isn't even hyperlinked.

I was wondering if this is the expected outcome and my assumptions are mistaken, or is this resource just lagging sufficient tagging and hyperlinking? I know in years past there were problems with the tagging of journals but I thought FL had sorted that out with the recent push of journal bundles.

Any insight you could share would be appreciated.

PS - Searches in the passage guide for the entire chapters (Romans 1, Ecc 12) do not return the desired results either.

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Simon’s Brother

Ryan it relates to the tagging in this journal. If you select the title of the article in Themilos and right click you can see the article has been tagged with a label that the passage guide references.

For the JETS article no labelling has been applied to the article title.

To get passage guide to show the JETS article you need to add a custom collection section to the passage guide. In the example below I have added on JETS to the collection to make it easy to illustrate the point.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

The resource info I have for JETS 31 is:

LLS:gs_jets_31
 2009-12-13T23:46:18Z 
GS_JETS_31.lbxlls

From the version and filename (LBXLLS) I can tell that this is quite an old resource that won't have been marked up in accordance with our current standards. It won't have label tagging, per-article citations, newer data type references, and possibly not even thorough Bible reference tagging.

I don't have any information about when this resource might be updated to our latest standards.

RyanB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/825572#Comment_825572

Hi Bradley,

Thank you for taking time to let me know about the JETS tagging. I really do appreciate it.

I must admit that this is very disappointing news, especially considering FL's push towards journal bundles and even creating a special passage guide section for them. I would humbly encourage FL to either put the tagging of JETS higher in the priority queue, or put a disclaimer on the product page. Had I known about the serious lack of tagging, I would have chosen to purchase a different product.

Thank you,

Ryan

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/826368#Comment_826368

or put a disclaimer on the product page.

I agree they should have a disclaimer on the product page. It's not only what a company says but also what it doesn't say that they need to keep in check.

RyanB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/825572#Comment_825572

I don't have any information about when this resource might be updated to our latest standards.

I was just curious if there was any word about when these journals might be tagged and updated yet?

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853479#Comment_853479

Is this still even available for purchase? The page doesn't seem to give that option.

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853524#Comment_853524

For a variety of reasons we are not able to update this resource at this time. We would like to revisit it in the future.

RyanB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853735#Comment_853735

While I'm quite disappointed that these journals still don't take advantage of Logos' journal tagging while so many new journals are being rolled out, I really do appreciate you giving me an update Kyle. Thank you.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853524#Comment_853524

Is this still even available for purchase? The page doesn't seem to give that option.

Bump on this related question.

Kyle G. Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853787#Comment_853787

Is this still even available for purchase? The page doesn't seem to give that option.

Bump on this related question.

It is not available for sale at this time. It is something we are working on.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853920#Comment_853920

It is not available for sale at this time. It is something we are working on.

Thanks Kyle. Should it not actually say that on the website?

Matthew Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853932#Comment_853932

We no longer have the rights to sale these journals.

I'll place a note on the product page.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/854643#Comment_854643

We no longer have the rights to sale these journals.

I'll place a note on the product page.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I was wondering it that might be the case. I hope that Faithlife can negotiate a new agreement to sell them again. This was one of the first journals I ordered when I was in Bible college many years ago but I never purchased them in Logos.

Colin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/825572#Comment_825572

From the version and filename (LBXLLS) I can tell that this is quite an old resource that won't have been marked up in accordance with our current standards. It won't have label tagging, per-article citations, newer data type references, and possibly not even thorough Bible reference tagging.

Although these journals can no longer be sold by Faithlife, many of us have already purchased them and would benefit hugely from proper tagging. The new licensing restriction Matthew reported surely does not prevent Faithlife from correcting the tagging for those journals which have already been sold.

My first experience of Logos was with the Theological Journal Library. While I understand that Faithlife stopped working with Galaxie software some time ago, the salesperson who talked me into buying the Master Journal Library (a larger purchase than I usually make) told me that the journals I already owned which were part of the MJL would be tagged to work in the Passage Guide. I've been pretty disappointed with the performance of the Journal section but I realise it's connected with the lack of tagging. I don't remember if JETS was included or not. However, it's no longer possible to put a disclaimer on the product page as Ryan suggested above, so perhaps his other suggestion could be implemented - 'put the tagging of JETS higher in the priority queue.'

Colin.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/854643#Comment_854643

We no longer have the rights to sale these journals.

I'll place a note on the product page.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I hope you bring this back someday

Rob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/877359#Comment_877359

Good grief, this is exactly what is wrong with so much of Christianity… William Lane Craig and Paul Copan write that there has been a renaissance in Christian Philosophy over the past 50 years, and this journal is the only professional evangelical journal devoted to philosophical enquire from an evangelical perspective, yet here we are….. no journal because there is no agreement between EPS and Logos. Really? WTH is going on here ? How does this help the kingdom? Sigh (or is it weep…?).

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/877359#Comment_877359

I have all volumes 1 (1958) up to 55 (2012) in Accordance. I got a bunch for $99 during a sale 👍

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1194302#Comment_1194302

Good grief, this is exactly what is wrong with so much of Christianity… William Lane Craig and Paul Copan write that there has been a renaissance in Christian Philosophy over the past 50 years, and this journal is the only professional evangelical journal devoted to philosophical enquire from an evangelical perspective, yet here we are….. no journal because there is no agreement between EPS and Logos.

I think you are in the wrong thread. JETS is the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society and is available in Logos again now through Galaxie (https://www.logos.com/product/217396/galaxies-theological-journal-library-vols-1-24) Philosophia Christi is the journal of the Evangelical Philosophical Society and is not available in Logos (and never has been?). Your complaint is well taken, but it would be better noticed in UserVoice, or in a new thread instead of a 5 year old one about a different journal.