Support for Kindle DX - or any other ereaders
I have purchased the Kindle DX as reading my library (about 1000 books) in Logos on a VGA monitor for more than 45 minutes is very difficult and over the years has had a very adverse effect upon my vision.
I was hoping some of my huge investment in books ($$$) could be read on my Kindle (which has a very easy to read screen).
Is there any ideas or thoughts going this way?
I would even pay a service fee to port them over (say $2.00 per book) so I could accualy read them.
So many of the books tossed in to the packages were written to be read not searched.....I would love to read them but afraid I will go blind before taking advantage of them.
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As another kindle user, I wish.
At this point there is no supported way to do it. It is possible that the mobile web version might work on the Kindle web browser in the future but not now. You can do a work around by copy/paste to create your own book for kindle. There is a debate if that is legal. What you probably wish you had done was wait 60 days for the new Apple iPad to come out. It will support the free iphone app version of Logos 4.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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In the mean time, I would strongly advise you to consider upgrading your monitor from the old VGA standard to one of the newer high resolution LCD flat panel monitors. There is just no comparison between the old VGA CRT monitors and the new LCD monitors. The contrast and screen resolution is far superior, which helps reduce eyesight strain. Prices have dropped considerably, too. It will require upgrading to a new digital video card, but those are not very expensive these days. Another aspect is the "refresh rate" of the video card. Lower refresh rates add to eye strain. Get a card with a high refresh rate at high resolution - the higher the refresh rate and the higher the screen resolution of both the video card and the monitor, the better your eyesight will hold up. Screen size makes a difference, consider at least a 21 inch LCD monitor for less eye strain. Many of us have two LCD monitors side-by-side for increased productvity, too (the new digital video cards easily support dual monitor configurations, just be sure to specify that kind of digital video card). I made these changes myself about a year and a half ago and will never go back to anything less, it was well worth it for me.
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Thanks Tim,
I do have a HP w2207h with an upgraded video card. I read very slow and become distracted with all the bells and wistles with my computer. I purchased the Kindle so I could sit down away from screen glare, email, and other stuff and focus on the material I am reading with a desire to be able to accually read the volumes I have purchased in Logos.
I am hoping someone else has accomplished this and has some insight...
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Thanks for the reply Kevin...
Hey BTW what process do you use to put your books into your Kindle? I just got the DX and looking for the cleanest/fastest way. Any thoughts?
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David, I think you should take a look at the new Apple iPad. Reports in the news media tell us that the screen is clear and bright, and it certainly has the uncluttered look you desire. I heard that the weight is only 1 1/2 pounds, too. Maybe it will be a "Kindle killer". I did hear that Apple is selling ebooks for it. And there have been a number of very happy Logos forum readers excited about that fact that it is compatible with their Logos ebooks.
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Too late....Kindle comes Thursday...
And from what I read the kindle has a much easier screen to read with their eink technology.
Plus...everyone is talking about what is going to be on the shelf in 2 months....for all we know i could be a let down....
I have a laptop...I need something I can read for hours and not go blind....I alread have poor vision from using the computer for about 25 years.....
Thanks for the thought though
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1. It's not too late, you have 30 days to return the kindle.
2. Tech people who own kindles and had their hands on the new iPad at the demonstration today say that the iPad is sharper and easier to read, as well as brighter.
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DavidCuff said:
I have a laptop...I need something I can read for hours and not go blind....I alread have poor vision from using the computer for about 25 years.....
Thanks for the thought though
A couple of thoughts occur...
First, what are you doing, to read Logos books on your laptop? Do you use F11??
Second, IF YOU CAN GET your book into a pdf, they can be emailed from your laptop to your Kindle and you pay Amazon 45c per transaction (book).
If you cannot get them into pdf, the best way is to copy and paste, copy and paste, into a Word document, which can also be sent to your Kindle. The instructions that come with the Kindle (online) tell you how to do this.
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The iPad is on the AT&T network--any news on how much the monthly data plan is going to cost for it? The iPad looks large, too, IMHO--it's essentially a very thin laptop. The Kindle is much smaller (maybe not the DX, but the standard Kindle). Since I already carry a laptop when I travel, and a wacom pad, a ton of cables, a protable hard drive, etc., I don't see how I can pull the iPad into it.
Looks like it would be great if you don't already carry a laptop.
:-)
Russ
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RussWhite said:
The iPad is on the AT&T network--any news on how much the monthly data plan is going to cost for it? The iPad looks large, too, IMHO--it's essentially a very thin laptop. The Kindle is much smaller (maybe not the DX, but the standard Kindle). Since I already carry a laptop when I travel, and a wacom pad, a ton of cables, a protable hard drive, etc., I don't see how I can pull the iPad into it.
Looks like it would be great if you don't already carry a laptop.
:-)
Russ
Word has it Russ, that the data plan is I believe, $14.99 monthly.
The iPad screen is about 10 inches. Unless I am mistaken, my Kindle was touted as having 6-inch screen.
The thing about iPad and netbooks, is that they are SO CLOSE to a laptop, that there becomes this gray, shaded line, over which one can cross in deciding between laptop and iPad/netbooks.
If I bought a new laptop, I could get my WHOLE Logos4 app on it (I do now), get wifi service, get 4Gb of memory, 500Gb of storage, AND the lightning fast hard-drive-on-a-circuit-board.
Compared to a laptop, it seems like your payment of $499 is $200 for the parts, $299 for the Apple name.
I have the $250 Kindle, by the way.
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The data plan is ONLY needed if you buy the 3G version. The wi-fi version does not need the data plan and you can do almost everything with the wi-fi version that you can with the 3G except maybe turn by turn map stuff. You certainly do not need the 3g for book reading or even buying books, surfing the web, or email.
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I would love the iPad, but honestly I have a first generation kindle, and reading is certainly a whole lot easier on the eyes on the kindle than a computer/iphone/iPad screen. So if we're comparing for simple reading, no question about it, Kindle's better. But with a logos app...I'm making the jump once it makes budgetary sense.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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I too keep hoping for Logos in Kindle. It's just easier to read on, than on my laptop or desktop. I have found that I have started reading much more, due to the ease of holding it. Please Logos!
Charlene
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How often do you have real access to wifi, though? Hmmm... Most of the time, I don't. The question then becomes--could I put it on my existing AT&T account?
As for reading being easier on the Kindle--I agree. I find reading easier on the matte white backround screen. Most folks prefer to watch movies and other entertainment on a shiny backlit screen, which is why the iPad went that direction. It's an entertainment device first, reading second--the Kindle is a reading device first, with no entertainment. No doubt the iPad will overtake the Kindle and eventually kill it, because people today want entertainment, not information.
Eventually, readers (like me) will be in second class state, I think... Just a matter of time.
Russ
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Charlene said:
I too keep hoping for Logos in Kindle. It's just easier to read on, than on my laptop or desktop. I have found that I have started reading much more, due to the ease of holding it. Please Logos!
With apple opening up Kindle to 3rd party apps, there may be hope. I hope that if it is appropriate Logos jumps on it.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jacob,
I think you mean amazon opening up kindle to 3rd party apps. There is another thread on kindle which I added my post to, but thought I'd add my two cents here as well. I'd love to see Logos develop a kindle app which would allow us to read our Logos Library. I know that the Ipad is supposed to be revolutionary, but honestly, I have an ipod classic, which holds all my music and video and I'm content with that. I have a laptop so when I want to do serious study, sermon prep & note taking in Logos I can. But when I want to read ebooks, or my Logos library, I too believe the Kindle, or nook or some other ereader that uses eink is a better solution. I know I haven't see the screen of Ipad yet, but I know it's oled, and I think it will cause eye strain over extended periods of time. I've set and read my new kindle for hours, with no problems. Battery life is amazing, and all I want to do is read. So here's my appeal again --- please Bob and Logos team, consider a Kindle app, now that you can develop one. I don't know what the development process is like, but I'd love to have access to my Logos Library for reading on a kindle. Thanks!
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RussWhite said:
Eventually, readers (like me) will be in second class state, I think... Just a matter of time.
There is always Paper Russ, there is always paper.
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I find it interesting that the iPad was just announced yesterday and will not be in production for 2 months, but so many people know that some other device will be easier to read. Clairvoyance?
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Leo LaPorte, a very highly regarded tech journalist and podcaster and an avid Kindle user was at the iPad event and was one of those allowed to use one of the iPads they had on hand for journalists, and he said the iPad was sharper, clearer and easier to read than the Kindle. Granted, he only used it for a few minutes, not hours, but he did get to use it hands on, and since he does almost all his reading on the Kindle, he at least can express a valid opinion.
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Well my Kindle DX was delivered today and I am very please! I have done a copy and paste of Wiersbe's "Elements of preaching" and used the mobi file converter and I am reading with pleasure!
I am very pleased with the eink technology. It is obvious that Amazon's goal was reading and not bells and wistles.
I can read on my HP22207 monitor for about an hour tops. But with this Kindle I can see myself reading for hours and hours which is what I wanted it for!
Now if I could move books from logos to Kindle easier....but alas, reading good books is worth the effort and time!
I also like the wiki and dictionary anywhere and anytime....for free.
Yes my flesh wants bells and wistles, games and colors, but my spirit wants to read.....read....and read some more!
For those of you who want bells, whistles, games, and colors....remember "leaders are readers, and readers are leaders!"
Thanks for the discussion and if anyone knows of an easier way to move books to the Kindle DX please say on!
Excuse me for now....I am reading.... ;-]
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DavidCuff said:
For those of you who want bells, whistles, games, and colors....remember "leaders are readers, and readers are leaders!"
I sat here and read, this and then I re-read it, and then I tried to talk myself out of responding. Obviously I failed. I am offended by the condescending attitude that says if I choose a different methodology than you do, I am less of a "leader" or a "reader". This is pride on your part. If you like the kindle, by all means use it, but please stop denigrating those of us who chose a different piece of technology to consume the written word.
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Hey Terry,
Did not mean to offend you...please forgive me...
Just excited to start reading all fo the content I have spend so much money to own. Left paper books behind for some time now...
Have fun with your IPad if you choose it.....again pls forgive me if you have been offended....
Peace....
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DavidCuff said:
Did not mean to offend you...please forgive me
Done.
Enjoy, your kindle. I have to wait 2 months to get my technology fix [;)]
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DavidCuff said:
For those of you who want bells, whistles, games, and colors....remember "leaders are readers, and readers are leaders!"
Thank you for this reminder. I do most of my reading on the computer and find that my flesh often finds the bells and whistles of Logos and my computer distracting. There isn't an inherent problem with them, but my flesh certainly is ready, willing, and able to take advantage of it. There is something sweet about the simplicity of the Kindle (that's why I like it sometimes). Even something sweet and simpler about paper; a nice break at times. But even then my flesh finds things to distract me with.
But your reminder is important and one that I need to hear and remember. Thank you for being used to remind me to be on guard against the temptations that come with technology. Praise God that we have the Spirit, so that we are no longer slaves to sin, and this potential temptation can be used in amazing ways to help us know God through His Word
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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DavidCuff said:
Thanks for the reply Kevin...
Hey BTW what process do you use to put your books into your Kindle? I just got the DX and looking for the cleanest/fastest way. Any thoughts?
I'm not going to tell you how to do that as it may be a violation of the the license. I haven't heard definitively that Logos is OK with that. But let's say you had a large file in any format that you could copy from - say a book you wrote in MS word or some other format. And you can copy it and past it into a Word file. Do so for the large book that you wrote and then send it to your kindle via the email address that Amazon has set up. You have two addresses when you buy a kindle. One sends it directly and costs a small amount. Mine have cost anywhere from ten cents to fifty or so. I am guessing because I cannot remember. I have done this with sermons and preached from it as well as other content. The other email address sends it back to your registered email address as an attachment in Kindle format and you load it by connecting the Kindle via USB and then just load it as if it was an external flash drive. No problem; works well. I have put a number of things on my Kindle this way. Also, look at mobileread.com for more info on using the Kindle and getting more content.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Hi David,
I agree totally with you about the Kindle Dx screen being very easy on the eyes. The Kindle Dx does not do much other than make reading easy on the eyes and that's it main purpose. Other devices offer many additional amenities/ bells and whistles but they also have to give up the (easy on the eyes simplicity) that comes from the most basic gray scale (paper book) like( non back lite) screens of the Kindle DX. Ipad does Oh-So-Much more but along with great technology comes that compromise of strain on the eyes. I just want to read-read-read my bible and Logos books with my Kindle DX. For those who haven't used the Kindle DX reading books or those who still have young fighter pilot eyes, it's the (back lighting) that stains the eyes after about an hour. So, if anyone knows of an easier way to move books to the Kindle DX please chime in for us( Less is more) Kindle DX guys.
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