Logos doesn't include appendices

I opened Girdlestone's Synonyms of the Old Testament, because I wanted to see his discussion of a Hebrew word. So I scrolled down to the appendix, or index of Hebrew words, to find the pages he discusses it, but there was no index included. I looked at Trench's Synonyms and the same thing.

I know there must be other ways to find this information, but it just seems basic to me that if you scan a book, you would scan all the indices and appendices as well. I am very disappointed.

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MJ. Smith

For early products, space was an issue for users so a Search frequently replaced indices. I don't know if that applies in this situation. Now, where space is not an issue it is more common to include indices.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833477#Comment_833477

Well,. i sure hope they hope they try to rectify this. I'm sure there is some other way to find this information in Logos, but some of us can;t keep watching videos to see things that they may never use and won't remember when they do want to use them.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833481#Comment_833481

I agree.

Bob Pritchett

We didn't include indices because software provides an even more comprehensive index via search. (And, in the early days, the index was to page numbers, wasn't always included in the files, couldn't anchor to the right position in the scrolling document, etc.)

You should be able to search Girdlestone for any Hebrew word by typing h:translit in the inline search box, or in a Search window. ('translit' is the transliteration of the Hebrew word.) Or g:logos, for example, in Trench.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833537#Comment_833537

Or use the right click menu Search this resource to avoid typing anything.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833537#Comment_833537

Tried your suggestion. Didn't work. I have a print copy of Gifdlestone and had looked up the information after I found there was no index in Logos. So when I went back to Girdlestone, I saw that he used a different form of the Hebrew word that I did. I used the noun form, and G used the verb form.

In a printed book (index), I can scan the words to see what forms or words are there. With a search, I either get it right or don't know if the word is not there or if I should keep trying.

But thank you for taking the time to answer. This will help me in the future, but I still see the value of the print index.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833543#Comment_833543

Tried that. Maybe I don't know what i'm doing. i right clicked on the Hebrew text, but the search only looked for that particular word form, and Girdlestone only printed out the Hebrew form of the verb. I tried search all open resources. G didn't even show up.

But thank you.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833537#Comment_833537

You should be able to search Girdlestone for any Hebrew word by typing h:translit in the inline search box, ...

Transliteration allows word to be selected for search:

Or use the right click menu Search this resource to avoid typing anything.

Right click is useful for finding more entries in the open resource:

Keep Smiling [:)]

Bob Pritchett

If you subscribe to Logos Now you should have the Concordance tool (https://www.logos.com/product/51523/concordance-tool), which will let you build a browsable concordance. Using the facets on the left you can limit it to Hebrew (or Greek) words, and even to words in specific fields, like Headings.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833592#Comment_833592

I have a print copy of Gifdlestone and had looked up the information after I found there was no index in Logos. So when I went back to Girdlestone, I saw that he used a different form of the Hebrew word that I did. I used the noun form, and G used the verb form.

On the right hand side of the Context menu you have the option of selecting the whether you are using manuscript form, headword, lemma, root ... if you weren't aware of that it may help you a bit. But yes, I do understand that you are running into a genuine problem. Within a single resource you can use a wildcard - too large a resource your coffee will get cold before it finished but here it is appropriate:

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833730#Comment_833730

Thank you. I see if I right click a word in my English Bible, I have these options, but it woldn't have helped me to see what Girdlestone has to say about the word, because I didn't know what form of the word he used as his heading.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833726#Comment_833726

I do subscribe to Logos Now, I used the concordance tool on Girdlestone and found what I was looking for. One person who responded to my post said that in the past, space was an issue, and he thought that was why indices were omitted.

A few years ago, Logos wanted to translated Spicq's commentary on Hebrews into English. A big part of the justification for this was how many times his name appeared in indices of commentaries on Hebrews. This information would only have been accessed with a physical index and a person can browse.

Your suggestions (I didn't try the other one yet) can help me find what I am looking for in this case, but I can see value in printing all the material an author included in his work. Just browsing an author's index will show things that someone can easily miss otherwise. After all, I think with software like Logos, we might be reading whole books less and just looking up things. We can miss important things in an author's work that an index will show.

Thanks again.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833621#Comment_833621

Thank you, but I couldn't get anywhere with this. I tried to look up a Hebrew word in Girdlestone, but I found out later than he indexed the word by its verb form, while I searched for the noun form. Bob gave some ideas that worked, but I still see a distinct value in just making the author's indices available.

Thanks again.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833737#Comment_833737

and he thought

she [;)]

I can see value in printing all the material an author included in his work.

I agree but want to give you options until that happens.

Larry Craig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/833741#Comment_833741

thank you, and oops.