NSBT Sale

As for suggestions, the main volume that I had been wanting to pick up, which I already own in paper, is Now My Eyes Have Seen You: Images of Creation and Evil in the Book of Job.  I will paste the TOC since it is not included in detail:

Series preface

Author’s preface
Abbreviations

1 Speaking what is right
The scope of this study
The approach taken
Is it a unitary work?
Varied readings of Job
The literary genre of Job
The poet’s use of imagery
Myth and theology
The shape of this study

2 An advocate in heaven?
The prose tale
Job 9:32–35
Job 16:18–22
Job 19:20–27
The third speech-cycle (chs. 22–31)
The Elihu speeches (chs. 32–37)
God and Job (38:1–42:6
The epilogue (42:7–16)
General comments

3 The tragic Creator
‘He also made the stars’
The tree of life
‘Where can wisdom be found?’
‘The world is charged with the grandeur of God’ (chs. 38–39)

4 The raging sea
Job 3:8
Job 7:12
Job 9
Job 26
Job 28
Job 38
The sea stories in the gospels

5 The shadowlands
The significance of Job 3
The womb of the earth
The vast reaches of the underworld
The powers of darkness

6 Yahweh, Mot and Behemoth
God as tormentor
How the images relate to each other
The figure of Behemoth

7 The ancient prince of hell
The scope of the study
A note on the prose tale
The significance of chapter 3
The significance of the rest of the poetic dialogue
The Elihu speech

8 Drawing out Leviathan
The challenge (40:25–32; Eng. 41:1–8)
Overwhelming fear (41:1–4; Eng. 41:9–12)
Description of the monster (41:5–21; Eng. 41:13–29)
His habitat (41:22–26; Eng. 41:30–34)
The other Leviathan passages
General comments

9 The vision glorious
Structure
Theological issues
Job and biblical theology

Appendix: Job and Canaanite myth
The significance of Ugarit for Old Testament studies
The relevance of the Baal sagas
Theological significance

Bibliography
Index of modern authors
Index of Scripture references
Index of ancient sources

Robert S. Fyall, Now My Eyes Have Seen You: Images of Creation and Evil in the Book of Job, ed. D. A. Carson, vol. 12, New Studies in Biblical Theology (Downers Grove, IL; England: InterVarsity Press; Apollos, 2002), 5–7.

Geo Philips said:

Yes. This sale definitely again calls into question prepub value. Best to treat prepub as a real preorder now and not as a deal.

I'm thinking of cancelling a lot of my prepubs, because it seems I can get these things down the road for the same price (or cheaper).

JH said:

(On a side note, I thought the prepub price was the best price one could get on a product from Logos. This current sale, just 7 months after the prepub shipped, is cheaper than the original prepub price. $349-$50(coupon) = $299. The prepub price was $320.)

Actually, with the sale, it's not $349-$50(coupon) = $299 because the coupon is for a future order. So, you would need to add in the price of whatever that future order is as well. In order to get $50 off, the future order would need to be at least $50, so the NSBT is costing you $349 no matter what.

Just to clarify, the $50 coupon is only when you buy the full set, you get a $15 coupon for 12+ books or a $30 coupon for 24+ books. See https://www.logos.com/nsbt-sale
Tempting deal though!

Tim Farley said:

Actually, with the sale, it's not $349-$50(coupon) = $299 because the coupon is for a future order. So, you would need to add in the price of whatever that future order is as well. In order to get $50 off, the future order would need to be at least $50, so the NSBT is costing you $349 no matter what.

Actually, money is fungible, so the coupon counts as real money on a future order. Since I order from Logos all the time, it is the same as getting an actual discount. Therefore, the prepub "broken promise" still stands. It doesn't matter - I just don't believe Logos any more that when something is on prepub is will actually be the cheapest price - I have seen too many go on sale later for less. My only point is I don't need to fixate on getting something on prepub anymore because I think it is a better deal - it's often not. It's my issue, not Logos as a company (they do what they want).

This were my top 6 cool choices from the sale! They seem very practical and informational Thanks, in spite of those who got the prepub not getting the best price hahaha...we'll pray for you guys

Slave of Christ: A New Testament Metaphor for Total Devotion to Christ Five Festal Garments: Christian Reflections on the Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Ecclesiastes and Esther Now My Eyes Have Seen You: Images of Creation and Evil in the Book of Job With the Clouds of Heaven: The Book of Daniel in Biblical Theology Covenant and Commandment: Works, Obedience and Faithfulness in the Christian Life ‘Return To Me’: A Biblical Theology of Repentance

Anyone own the set? Is it worth it?

any indication how long this sale is running?

August 8.

JeremyS said:

any indication how long this sale is running?

Just added Paul and the commandments for a total of 8. After carefully reviewing the rest I realized I don't need any more volumes

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DAL said:

Just added Paul and the commandments for a total of 8. After carefully reviewing the rest I realized I don't need any more volumes

4 more and you'll get a $15 coupon 

Meh! That means $40 bucks more for $15 back...I think I'm ok for now

alabama24 said:

Personally, I am glad for it. If the publisher is going to have a sale, I want in! 

I agree one hundred percent. I have bought thousands of dollars of prepubs and they were good deals at the time. If the publisher comes up with a great deal after that, I rejoice that others can enjoy that as well. To artificially hold a price at a higher rate just because it was on prepub in the last year, has never made any sense to me and never will regardless of which side of the buying coin I am on. Not only does a high artificial price look bad on Faithlife when its competitors are beating their price, but it is frustrating for users who could benefit now (implies that were not able to get it at prepub).  Let's remove the concept that prepub price is a guaranteed low price. Buy at prepub if it seems a fair price and you want it in production. If not, gamble that it will some day be cheaper and makes it out of prepub somehow. That's the way the rest of life works. Why should this be different?

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alabama24 said:

Personally, I am glad for it. If the publisher is going to have a sale, I want in! 

I agree one hundred percent. I have bought thousands of dollars of prepubs and they were good deals at the time. If the publisher comes up with a great deal after that, I rejoice that others can enjoy that as well. To artificially hold a price at a higher rate just because it was on prepub in the last year, has never made any sense to me and never will regardless of which side of the buying coin I am on. Not only does a high artificial price look bad on Faithlife when its competitors are beating their price, but it is frustrating for users who could benefit now (implies that were not able to get it at prepub).  Let's remove the concept that prepub price is a guaranteed low price. Buy at prepub if it seems a fair price and you want it in production. If not, gamble that it will some day be cheaper and makes it out of prepub somehow. That's the way the rest of life works. Why should this be different?

I agree!  Like most others, I want to get a good deal.  So if I buy something and find it goes on sale for a lower price afterward, I get that same feeling of "Awwww.  I didn't get the best deal." [:$]  Now if the seller said the item would never be sold at a lower price, then did exactly that, I'd have reason to be upset.  But barring that, I have to own up to the fact that I'm the one who decided when to buy and at what price.  Now if by chance, I purchase a resource from Faithlife that goes on sale shortly after my 30 day return period is up and they are gracious enough to refund me the difference--that's just frosting on the cake and has increased my appreciation for the company.  But they have in no way harmed me if they either can't do that or they choose not to do that.

In regard to pre-pubs, I've never viewed them as the lowest price something will ever sell for and to my knowledge, Faithlife doesn't claim that to be the case.  So I'm thankful for every sale whether or not I wish to take advantage of it, or am even able to do so.

Rick Ausdahl said:

In regard to pre-pubs, I've never viewed them as the lowest price something will ever sell for and to my knowledge, Faithlife doesn't claim that to be the case.  So I'm thankful for every sale whether or not I wish to take advantage of it, or am even able to do so.

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Rick Ausdahl said:

In regard to pre-pubs, I've never viewed them as the lowest price something will ever sell for and to my knowledge, Faithlife doesn't claim that to be the case.  So I'm thankful for every sale whether or not I wish to take advantage of it, or am even able to do so.

Sounds like a point-in-time statement and probably is (or was) true.  Very different (in my opinion) than saying the pre-pub price is the lowest price at which a resource will ever be sold.  If Faithlife does state the price will never be lower, then sells it at a lower price, that would be a horse of a different color.

I don't mean to be argumentative--just a little different perspective I guess.  Will let it go at that--don't want to hijack the thread.

Rick Ausdahl said:

Sounds like a point-in-time statement and probably is (or was) true.  Very different (in my opinion) than saying the pre-pub price is the lowest price at which a resource will ever be sold. 

Agreed. Can a product that has ever been in pre-pub be part of a base package or be featured as the free book +1? In both cases it would be cheaper than the original pre-pub.

When I pay a certain price for a resource, I only ever do so when I feel it's worth it. When at a later point someone else gets the same thing for less, or for free, I can choose to feel happy for the ones having the chance for a good deal, or envy them and feel self-pity, or anything in between.

Unless FL offers lots and lots of products at huge discounts shortly after they leave pre-pub, I'm confident that feeling happy for the others works best for me. 😸

Very considerate of you. Thanks, Matthew.

Is anyone able to open NSBT resources on a Kindle Fire HD (or any other Android based device)?  They download fine on my Fire HD, but when selecting them (I've tried three), I get a message that there was an error trying to open the resource.  There's a "Try again" option, but it results in the same error message.

NOTE:  Please do not respond in this thread.  I created a new thread titled "Problems with NSBT Resources".  I tried to delete my post in this thread about the NSBT sale, but was not given the option to do so.

Keith Pang said:

Is there going to be dynamic pricing for the identity and idolatry title? 

No

Dynamic pricing is only available on sets of books not individual ones.  The book you are referring to just went on prepub. 

Keith Pang said:

its part of the NBST series

Yes. But, it is new to the series and just came out of pre-pub. If you purchase the NSBT collection you will find it is not part of this release and must be purchased separately.

Keith Pang said:

So it won't ever be part of the set?

How the series will be offered in the future remains to be seen. But, for now this particular title is offered separately.