Just noticed I almost always (always?) get results in the PG for Nicene/Post Nicene, but I have NEVER seen Ante-Nicene. Why would this be? Are they not searchable int eh same way? Are the excluded by mistake? Do they never discuss Scripture ()
Run John 3:16 on your PG, you should get a hit.
Ted.
Run John 3:16 on your PG, you should get a hit. Ted.
Ted, I did run it, and yet I do not see Ante Nicene. I see two volumes of Nicene and Post Nicene, however.
The hits under "Commentaries" you're seeing from NPNF1 are commentaries or collections of homilies of St. Augustine and St. John Chrysostom that comment on Scripture verse-by-verse (like a modern commentary). We recently (summer 2009) rebuilt these so that Logos could treat them like commentaries. You can link to and navigate them by Bible verse, like any commentary, and they show up in the Passage Guide.
Since other works in ANF/NPNF aren't arranged in this fashion, they can't be indexed by Bible verse in the same way. They do, of course, discuss Scripture, even if they aren't commenting on it in a systematic fashion, and this is reflected in references that we've linked with the Bible data type. To find references in ANF & NPNF in the PG, I would recommend putting them in a collection (or perhaps better, multiple collections: one for Augustine [NPNF1, 1-8], one for Chrysostom [NPNF1, 9-14], and any other way you want to break it down), and add a search of these collections to your PG (Add->Collections, then go down to the added element and click "Settings" to select the collection).
The result isn't as clean--you'll have to sort through a lot of references and allusions made in passing mixed in with more substantial discussion of your passage--but you can still find a lot of great stuff.
I have this set up just to search the collections indicated. As pointed out you won't get hits under 'Commentaries' for most of the ECF volumes.
The hits under "Commentaries" you're seeing from NPNF1 are commentaries or collections of homilies of St. Augustine and St. John Chrysostom that comment on Scripture verse-by-verse (like a modern commentary). We recently (summer 2009) rebuilt these so that Logos could treat them like commentaries. You can link to and navigate them by Bible verse, like any commentary, and they show up in the Passage Guide. Since other works in ANF/NPNF aren't arranged in this fashion, they can't be indexed by Bible verse in the same way. They do, of course, discuss Scripture, even if they aren't commenting on it in a systematic fashion, and this is reflected in references that we've linked with the Bible data type. To find references in ANF & NPNF in the PG, I would recommend putting them in a collection (or perhaps better, multiple collections: one for Augustine [NPNF1, 1-8], one for Chrysostom [NPNF1, 9-14], and any other way you want to break it down), and add a search of these collections to your PG (Add->Collections, then go down to the added element and click "Settings" to select the collection). The result isn't as clean--you'll have to sort through a lot of references and allusions made in passing mixed in with more substantial discussion of your passage--but you can still find a lot of great stuff.
Thanks Louis, much appreciated. that makes sense too! (and it explains why Chrysostom was a frequent result!
Mark, you set this up as a series collection, correct? And how do the results work for you and your study?
We recently (summer 2009) rebuilt these so that Logos could treat them like commentaries. You can link to and navigate them by Bible verse, like any commentary, and they show up in the Passage Guide.
I did not mention this, but thank you for doing this!
I did set these up as separate collections. Right now I can't recollect why. They could be combined.
I don't frequently consult the ECF, but this makes it easy to do so when I am interested. It's a custom passage guide with just these two collections and my commentaries in it. It runs fast and easy.
You could also set up the Cited By tool to open up the ECF collection so it would follow you as you studied. (For me unless Cited By is really stripped down it works too slowly for my regular use).
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