New Feature: Courses Tool
The Courses Tool is designed to be a planning tool for structuring your study of certain books or topics. Like reading plans, learning plans help you systematically work through content. Select from one of our pre-built learning plans an area you'd like to learn more about and the pace you'd like to go through the content. The Courses Tool generates a learning schedule, allows you to read the selections within the tool itself, and then tracks your progress.
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Perhaps its too early to know, but is this tool going to be curated and maintained by Faithlife? Or is this tool something that would enable churches to create their own courses?
lost my bookmarks, kind of. I had several bookmarks that pointed to courses that I was in process. Now they don't open. if I browse to them, it has lost "tracking" what I have completed. when I open a course in Courses that I have completed, it does not show that, and makes me start again. If I open a completed course from the library, it does go to the "last" location (end/final exam), but has no tracking of the sections being completed.
lost my bookmarks, kind of. I had several bookmarks that pointed to courses that I was in process. Now they don't open. if I browse to them, it has lost "tracking" what I have completed. when I open a course in Courses that I have completed, it does not show that, and makes me start again. If I open a completed course from the library, it does go to the "last" location (end/final exam), but has no tracking of the sections being completed.
Brent,
We added the ability to import your reading progress in 7.0 SR-1.
Perhaps its too early to know, but is this tool going to be curated and maintained by Faithlife? Or is this tool something that would enable churches to create their own courses?
It doesn't seem like the decision has been made but if there is sufficient interest I personally think they will make it available.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
So if I wanted to do this course:
would I see everything in the panel to the left of the course description and requirements?
Would the session exclude the first 8/7 resources and generate a plan with only the books I have.
Is there a video on how this works?
Is there a video on how this works?
Here you go. https://www.logos.com/logos-pro/courses-tool
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would I see everything in the panel to the left of the course description and requirements?
The left pane shows the entire table of contents (all of the sections) of the course. It does not exclude segments with resources that you do not own.
Would the session exclude the first 8/7 resources and generate a plan with only the books I have.
As you progress through the course, some of the sessions will be empty because you don't own the content.
What a great idea!!
Thanks for thinking about this. Makes studying so much easier.
Does FL takes suggestions for designing new courses as well?
mm.
lol.
Just want to say "thanks" for all the work you guys/gals do. The product is amazing!!
Does FL takes suggestions for designing new courses as well?
We do take suggestions, though we make no promises.
Is there a link I can click on to see all courses, including the ones not available to me in the Courses tool?
I could see courses related to resources I don't yet own influencing my purchasing decisions at some point.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
I don't see where anyone responded to SineNomine's question. Is there somewhere we can view a list of all courses and their requirements?
I don't see where anyone responded to SineNomine's question.
Well, I did just give it, and it's a Saturday night. I'm sure someone at Faithlife will read it on Monday and someone(else?) will reply no later than Tuesday.
Is there somewhere we can view a list of all courses and their requirements?
I'm glad I'm not the only person who cares about this. [:)]
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
Is there somewhere we can view a list of all courses and their requirements?
No course seems to list its requirements on the course page of the website.
As far as I can tell, you would need to follow the appropriate faithlife group, download the excel file of readings, and then manually check them against your library.
As far as I can tell, you would need to follow the appropriate faithlife group, download the excel file of readings, and then manually check them against your library.
It's probably quicker to download the notes/highlighting file and open that in Logos, as it will be easier to see what you don't have.
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Is there a link I can click on to see all courses, including the ones not available to me in the Courses tool?
Is this what you are looking for: https://www.logos.com/mobile-ed/courses or in the store https://www.logos.com/products/search?Product+Type=Logos+Mobile+Education
Is there a link I can click on to see all courses, including the ones not available to me in the Courses tool?Hi,
Damian's links will show you all the Mobile Ed Courses we have available for purchase.
If you are looking for a list of all of the Learning Plans that we developed for the Courses tool (including the ones made for Mobile Ed), there is no such list available. The only plans that are not showing up in your Courses Tool are plans that are highly dependent on a resource that you do not own. For instance, we made a plan on Lewis' Mere Christianity. That plan won't show up unless you own Mere Christianity.
We do plan on releasing most, if not all, plans when we are able to give you the ability to filter out plans that include content you don't own. We decided to restrict the ones that were dependent on one resource if you don't own it because we didn't want people to open plan after plan only to find that they were missing all the content necessary for completing the plan.
So, in the near future, you'll be able to see all the plans we've developed.
We decided to restrict the ones that were dependent on one resource if you don't own it because we didn't want people to open plan after plan only to find that they were missing all the content necessary for completing the plan.
It's sadly still possible to have that experience with courses that require multiple resources, but I certainly appreciate the thought!
If you are looking for a list of all of the Learning Plans that we developed for the Courses tool (including the ones made for Mobile Ed), there is no such list available.
Thank you for the confirmation.
So, in the near future, you'll be able to see all the plans we've developed.
Great!
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
Glad I found this forum. How would you be able to see those available learning plans? Would they be integrated into the program, perhaps with a lock beside them? Thanks for your responses to the many questions about this helpful tool.
How would you be able to see those available learning plans?
We plan to integrate a way of filtering plans by resources owned. In the faceted browsing to the left of the main tool, you are able to select plans based on topic, theme, session length, etc. Our hope is also to include a section that lets you limit plans by whether you own the resources included in them or not. It will be something like "Plans for which I have all resources," "Plans for which I have some resources," "Plans for which I own no resources."
Why do you need the Gold edition to really utilize and have access to all the courses and even access to books in courses that are available to me?
Also, the Biblical Event Navigator is not the same and should have the same look and functionality.
Why do you need the Gold edition to really utilize and have access to all the courses and even access to books in courses that are available to me?
We built/are building most of the plans using the Logos 7 Gold library. We needed to choose a library so that the greatest amount of people would have access to all the resources. Gold is our most popular library, so we chose it.
I did build some plans using only resources in Starter and we plan to build more.
Also, the Biblical Event Navigator is not the same and should have the same look and functionality.
I don't understand what you are referring to.
Question about this tool. In addition to the Mobile Ed courses I'm seeing, I'm seeing a bunch of other "courses" that are listed from different people and a bunch of introductory "courses". What are these and how are they different from the Mobile Ed courses I own?
Thanks!
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They are basically reading plans on one or more books, sometimes traditional reading plans and sometimes created by the author.
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how are they different from the Mobile Ed courses I own?
For one they are not videos with transcripts. IMO, They are similar to the required reading sections from Mobile Ed classes, being that they are selected readings which are geared to putting some great resources in order which discuss a certain topic in an intentional/systematic work flow.
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I should clarify, I'm referring to the topical courses, not the ones which are essentially readling plans for a single book.
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how are they different from the Mobile Ed courses I own?For one they are not videos with transcripts. IMO, They are similar to the required reading sections from Mobile Ed classes, being that they are selected readings which are geared to putting some great resources in order which discuss a certain topic in an intentional/systematic work flow.
The best analog is probably reading lists from topics.logos.com. In fact, we've discussed converting some reading lists into learning plans in the Courses tool.
How does one turn Popular Highlights off in the courses tool readings? Almost all of them have that annoying dashed underlying and I don't see an icon that allows me to switch it off like I do on other panels.
Apologies if I missed the answer...I searched but didn't find it.
I have a Bronze level. Does the Courses tool create things based on your Library or does it not matter which Library you have?
AND, if it DOES base itself on your Library, what about resources you've hidden?
Thanks!!
I have a Bronze level. Does the Courses tool create things based on your Library or does it not matter which Library you have?
AND, if it DOES base itself on your Library, what about resources you've hidden?
If your library contains resources for a course, that course will be shown, otherwise that course will automatically be hidden. The bigger your library, the more available courses you'd be able to see and complete.
I haven't tested it, but I suspect that if a resource is hidden, the course tool wouldn't show that course, as its required resource would be "missing" from your library.
(In the upcoming Logos 7.2 release, you will be able to see all courses, even if you don't have the required resources in your library. This will make it easier for you to obtain resources for courses you'd want to take.)
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
Cool, thanks so much!!
Michael
I have a Bronze level.
I believe most—if not all—courses recommend at least Platinum to get maximum benefit from the course. Note that "required" resources are not really necessary to take most courses. You can still watch the videos and read the lecture transcripts, but you will not be able to complete the recommended collateral readings.
Hi Jacob
I am looking at upgrading to logos 7 from your post it would appear that there are plans included in the courses tool included in the price is that correct. I can see on your screen print that for example that there is one on the birth of Christ. Are these plans something one buys separately or are they a part of the tool itself all included with the download and not something i need to already have in my library.
Is there one on Matthew for example
Thanks very much
Ruth
I am looking at upgrading to logos 7 from your post it would appear that there are plans included in the courses tool included in the price is that correct. I can see on your screen print that for example that there is one on the birth of Christ. Are these plans something one buys separately or are they a part of the tool itself all included with the download and not something i need to already have in my library.
Is there one on Matthew for example
If you have Logos 7, the tool will show you all available plans that you will be able to follow. Lots of the plans require certain resources. If you don't have any of those resources, the plan will be listed as unavailable. At least half of the courses require you to purchase a Mobile Ed course to follow them.
There is an "Introduction to the Gospel of Matthew" that is mostly made of resources that are often found in Logos libraries. That has 37 30-minute sessions. Most Bible books don't yet have courses, though. There looks to be about ten Bible books covered so far.
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Thanks Mark this is really helpful.
I was trying to get this information from the customer service staff but couldn't.
I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to my post.
As I probably don't have all the resources and I certainly don't have the mobile ed series it probably isn't worth me spending my money on it.
Thanks again
Ruth
My son and I upgraded to Logos 7 without even knowing about courses. We had been firing emails back and forth as we both explored the new features. When I stumbled into the Courses Tool, I was really impressed. I immediately sent him an email. The response was a single word: Fantastic!
Jacob, what Kind of Cources do I need to use it? My Logos Now Cources are not there
Have you finished indexing? Most if not all should be there? What is the name of the course?
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
Lynden I thought Logos was finished...but it start downloading more and more :-) and after that it index again, so I gues I wait till this afternoon
Mine is showing 132 courses. Even though I do not own most of them.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
I have 213 - mostly MobileEd courses that I don't own!
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Now own Logos 7 Diamond and Reformed Diamond
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We made learning plans that are heavily dependent on one resource (like Mobile Ed courses) unavailable to those who do not own that one resource. Hopefully this saves the frustration from having a bunch of courses in your tool that you can't use.
... pursuing excellence in Christ Jesus!
In the future, we intend to bring all plans back, not just the ones that correspond to content you own. This will allow you to discover plans you might be interested in even if you don't yet own the content. But we don't want to clutter your experience with the tool. We need to provide a way to see which plans you can take without purchasing anything, and which plans are available and would require an additional purchase. We're working on that. Once it's in place, you'll start seeing all plans.
Sounds good. Thanks Phil.
Now, go home. You posted this near midnight on a holiday weekend. Appreciate your dedication, but your family might like to see you before they need to look on the forum to remember what you look like. [:P]
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Thanks for the info! There's some interesting plans in there I'm sure to really benefit from and discover some new insights from my Bible study. Can't wait to try them out!
Nathan Parker
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Fully updated and indexed but none of my courses are showing in the Courses tool:
I believe courses are only updated when you first launch the app. It might be that you need to restart the application one more time for them to show up.
I've restarted the app more than once, and same result - nothing in the Courses tool.
Same here
Same here. No resources.
What I am seeing is that if I don't own the mobile ed courses that are displayed I can still read the text and the links to the additional resources still work - I just can't watch the video. The video is transcribed into the course though :-)