Pervasive tagging problems for ODCC
First problem - the words with a preceding superscript * and the q.v. notation do not appear to be linked to the appropriate article in Cross, F. L., and Elizabeth A. Livingstone, eds. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2005. Both notations refer you to an article within the work ... there are nearly a thousand of these.
Second problem - Yes, Damian identified this problem which is pervasive in the ODCC causing it to drop in and out of the parallel resources list. In all cases where the ODCC does not appear in the parallel resources list, it appears to have a unique headword compared to the resources which do appear as parallels. Can this get corrected without my going through and identifying each saint on which this occurs?
Other examples: Abbo, St.; Becket, St Thomas; Adam of St-Victor; Agabus, St.; Giles, St .... there appear to be several hundred such errors
There are also cases where there the error extends beyond the ODCC for example for dies irae:
no parallel resources:
- Julian, John, ed. A Dictionary of Hymnology. New York: Dover, 1907.
- Cross, F. L., and Elizabeth A. Livingstone, eds. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2005.
- Jacobs, Henry Eyster, and John A. W. Haas, eds. The Lutheran Cyclopedia. New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1899.
have parallel resources:
- Addis, William E., and Thomas Arnold. A Catholic Dictionary. New York: The Catholic Publication Society Co., 1887.
- Thein, John. Ecclesiastical Dictionary: Containing, in Concise Form, Information upon Ecclesiastical, Biblical, Archæological, and Historical Subjects. New York; Cincinnati; Chicago: Benziger Brothers, 1900.
I think I now know why I never understood/trusted parallel resources. 
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks for that Martha.
BTW. How come my factbook entry for Dominic does not include a section for Quotes or Media or Letters?
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Damian McGrath said:
BTW. How come my factbook entry for Dominic does not include a section for Quotes or Media or Letters?
Maybe you haven't spent enough time with priests with O.P. after their name [;)] More likely you have the topic Dominic rather than the person Dominic (see person image) ... otherwise do you have the resources they come from?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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How do you get a person rather than a topic?
Why are there two different Facebook entries?
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Damian McGrath said:
How do you get a person rather than a topic?
Look for the head not the callout
Damian McGrath said:Why are there two different Facebook entries?
History of Faithlife re: autogeneration of records, update of records, change of approach ... they are currently merging duplicate records ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Martha, I'm not getting anything other than topics (callout icons). I get no people and I tried a couple of names.
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Have you tried scrolling down ... the order in which things appear is pretty random. Also, they mass added records as topic then moved them to biographic so there are people with only a topic record ...[6]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Have you tried scrolling down ..
Of course!
I have tried a range of people - none of them show the people icon on the drop down list.
Strangely, a couple of them trigger the people format of the factbook (Athansius and John Chrysostom) - others do not - Dominic, Zwingli, Calvin, Bede (not sure why the base form shows Bene).
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Here is what I get for Wesley - one of my standard test cases:
for Calvin I get:
For Zwingli:
for Bede:
There is obviously something wrong with your installation.
Under the Factbook datasets is this what you are showing?
DB:BIOGRAPHIES
2016-08-04T19:01:22Z
Biographies.lbsbioOrthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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You may have to Skype in ... I'm short of suggestions.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Martha, can you check the file:
C:\Users\..........\AppData\Local\Logos\Data\..........\ResourceManager\Resources\Biographies.lbsbio
Mine is modified 10 August and is 2,095kb in size
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Very strange ... I don't have a file by that name ... yes, I've doubled checked path and searched for name and file type and questioned my sanity but ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Strange indeed. I assume that the other dataset files are in that folder. eg. biblicalpeople.
I'm going to try update resources - the file seems too small to me.
If I delete this one file, will another download on update?
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I believe so. I always rename to "remove" so that I can restore if necessary.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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That worked!
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Just a heads up: I've seen this thread. I was hoping to address it yesterday but got caught up in other projects.
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MJ. Smith said:
First problem - the words with a preceding superscript * and the q.v. notation do not appear to be linked to the appropriate article in Cross, F. L., and Elizabeth A. Livingstone, eds. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2005. Both notations refer you to an article within the work ... there are nearly a thousand of these.
I'm not sure I understand the problem here. According to the preface, "An asterisk (*) preceding a word indicates a relevant article in the Dictionary under that (or closely similar) heading." i.e. It's an internal link.
In the Dominic article, the superscript before Dominican Order takes you to the article "Dominican Order. The article before Augustine "Rule of St. *Augustine." takes you to the article on the Rule of St. Augustine.
Am I misunderstanding you?
MJ. Smith said:Second problem - Yes, Damian identified this problem which is pervasive in the ODCC causing it to drop in and out of the parallel resources list. In all cases where the ODCC does not appear in the parallel resources list, it appears to have a unique headword compared to the resources which do appear as parallels. Can this get corrected without my going through and identifying each saint on which this occurs?
This isn't a tagging issue but relates to how Parallel Resources works with encyclopedias. If you link ODCC and 131 Christians Everyone Should Know, you'll notice that articles link. This is because the link set is utilizing the bk (bible knowledgebase) milestones we place in aligned articles. Parallel passages on the other hand is looking for exact headword matches. In my opinion, parallel passages should look first for the bk milestones rather than matching headwords. This, in theory, would solve the headword problem of trying to account for every possible permutation of a person's name. i.e. Francis, Francis of Assisi, Saint Francis, Saint Francis of Assisi, St. Francis, St. Francis of Assisi, Francis, St., Francis, Saint, Francis of Assisi, St., Francis of Assisi, Saint, etc.
I'm going to pass along the suggestion to development. (I'm not a developer so I can't speak to the actual feasibility of the solution.)
EDIT: linking sort of works. I think it's tied to headwords but my point remains, I think using bk milestones would be better.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
EDIT: linking sort of works. I think it's tied to headwords but my point remains, I think using bk milestones would be better.
Thank you very much ... this is much like Damian and I had determined although I thought LCV not BK [:$]
Ah, I hadn't thought of the link being specific to the asterisk - I was trying the word ... you're right, I'm wrong.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
Parallel passages on the other hand is looking for exact headword matches. In my opinion, parallel passages should look first for the bk milestones rather than matching headwords.
Kyle thank you for your response.
Am I missing something? "Francis of Assisi" from 131CESK lists the ODCC as a parallel resource, even though the headwords don't match exactly. ODCC lists no parallel resources.
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Damian McGrath said:Kyle G. Anderson said:
Parallel passages on the other hand is looking for exact headword matches. In my opinion, parallel passages should look first for the bk milestones rather than matching headwords.
Kyle thank you for your response.
Am I missing something? "Francis of Assisi" from 131CESK lists the ODCC as a parallel resource, even though the headwords don't match exactly. ODCC lists no parallel resources.
You're not missing anything. I found that to be very odd as well. I've passed it along because at this point I'm not entirely sure why that is.
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Ok. So, it does not rely on exact head word matches.
how does it work?
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