but they're almost always Calvinist-leaningYou misspelled "biblical."
(Trying to lighten the mood in this thread...)
-Donnie
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Hopefully when you say "lighten the mood" you mean of the thread overall, and not my contributions to it! If I appear frustrated, judgmental, or in any way negative - that's certainly not how I feel! And for what it's worth, I really value the plurality of voices and perspectives!
Dear Faithlife, please do not compromise the public perception of your integrity
Faithlife, you have several reasons to be concerned about the public perception of your integrity at the moment. Note that I say "public perception" specifically to insure that you understand I do not actually question your integrity but rather I question your actions that put integrity into question.
Recent events of relevance:
- listing of features of Logos 7 items marked "(subscription)" that in fact are Logos Now features
- two authors caught in plagarism making one question the "academicness" of the environment in which they and other authors write as these are grad school 101 level errors
- releases of products with inaccurate/missing tagging as in Classics of Western Spirituality and sermons ... note that Kyle has gone a very good job of getting these corrected in a timely manner but they are indicative of a cultural of sloppiness.
So what direction in Logos moving?
- discourse analysis tagging
- direct quotation tagging
- allusion/echo and other intertextual tagging
- figurative speech tagging ...
All of these and many more require that we trust you to provide theologically neutral, accurate and complete tagging. This is especially true as we have little opportunity to attach visible corrections when we disagree with your classification. So just when I need to believe that your tools are neutral what do you do? Because a conservative radical objected to a post, you chose to delete the feature rather than fix the problem which has two relatively small elements:
- renaming the feature in the customization menu
- applying the source screening specified in the web page to the home page as well.
Instead, you chose to tell us that the feature is not relevant to Bible study - a statement that very strongly reeks of a particular theological hermeneutic - and therefore you will remove it. (In addition, news is very relevant to sermon writing so the statement also reeks of illogical self-justification.) Once again, you show that I can not trust Faithlife to be theologically neutral ... a message sent multiple times. So why should I trust that you will not be equally responsive to disagreements in your tools and with your tagging ... moving from neutral to theologically based tagging?
Please don't solve a short term complaint by creating a long-term problem.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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releases of products with inaccurate/missing tagging as in Classics of Western Spirituality
Unfortunately this one is going to be little effect on me... I am having to cancel my CWS since I can't afford them and when talking to sales today the only option they could come up with was trying to sell me the collectors edition but $450 a month is not an affordable option for me.
-Dan
Ouch! I picked most of them up in much lower level packages and then had a manageable price on the few remaining. Check your costs of Lutheran, Anglican, Orthodox and Catholic packages to see if some make most of the set affordable ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Getting Anglican portfolio brought it done to $340 since it has 93 of the volumes in it. weird that Catholic portfolio only contained 76 volumes.
-Dan
I had a bit of a problem figuring out why the series was split as it was in the packages and assumed it had to do with balance and value ... but I'm glad things weren't as bleak as sales made it look.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
$340 is still pretty hard for me but doable as long as my husband doesn't look into it... [:D]
-Dan
$340 is still pretty hard for me but doable as long as my husband doesn't look into it...
-Dan
Husband?
Yes, and a perfect example of why we don't slam the LBGTI community in the forums. Whether you accept, condone or deny their existence is a theological discussion which belongs on ChristianDiscourse.com not a matter of concern on Logos forums. Same as if we had a polygamous Mormon or a civilly divorced and remarried Catholic or even a divorced and remarried bishop (1 Timothy 3:2) or even (gasp) married Christians if we happen to have some stray Shakers.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
$340 is still pretty hard for me but doable as long as my husband doesn't look into it...
-Dan
Husband?
Yes, and a perfect example of why we don't slam the LBGTI community in the forums. Whether you accept, condone or deny their existence is a theological discussion which belongs on ChristianDiscourse.com not a matter of concern on Logos forums. Same as if we had a polygamous Mormon or a civilly divorced and remarried Catholic or even a divorced and remarried bishop (1 Timothy 3:2) or even (gasp) married Christians if we happen to have some stray Shakers.
Well I'm sorreee! I didn't know I thought it was a typo or something. And who's slamming who? So calm yourself down and don't over react. I'm not the judge here. Besides I've always interacted well with Dan -- so lighten up, will you?
DAL
Well I'm sorreee! I didn't know I thought it was a typo or something. And who's slamming who? So calm yourself down and don't over react. I'm not the judge here. Besides I've always interacted well with Dan -- so lighten up, will you?
Good grief! I am calm ... chill even ... and I don't have the slightest idea what your position is. Can't one use a little humor to make sure no one jumps into the thread and makes a issue of it? I mean what are the chances that one of the 3-4 remaining Shakers are on the Logos forums?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
$340 is still pretty hard for me but doable as long as my husband doesn't look into it...
-Dan
Husband?
Apparently you haven't visited Dan's website in his signature.
[:D]
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Thank you for the reminders MJ and DAL i don't feel offended you asked. It is likely my fault for not typing spouse for while I do not hide I also don't want to offer intentional provocation. This forum is provided not for theological discourse but help and aid in use of FL products...
-Dan
Well I'm sorreee! I didn't know I thought it was a typo or something. And who's slamming who? So calm yourself down and don't over react. I'm not the judge here. Besides I've always interacted well with Dan -- so lighten up, will you?Good grief! I am calm ... chill even ... and I don't have the slightest idea what your position is. Can't one use a little humor to make sure no one jumps into the thread and makes a issue of it? I mean what are the chances that one of the 3-4 remaining Shakers are on the Logos forums?
Well it didn't come across humorous it came across like censorious. But anyway, no worries. And no I have not visited his page. I do appreciate his comments and his past recommendations on the NIB set.
DAL
Thank you for the reminders MJ and DAL i don't feel offended you asked. It is likely my fault for not typing spouse for while I do not hide I also don't want to offer intentional provocation. This forum is provided not for theological discourse but help and aid in use of FL products...
-Dan
No worries Dan 👍
Well it didn't come across humorous it came across like censorious.
AAARRGHHH... I'm never going to learn to speak Evangelicalese.[:'(]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
AAARRGHHH... I'm never going to learn to speak Evangelicalese.
Just so you do not lump all non-denominationalists in with Evangelicals.
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I mean what are the chances that one of the 3-4 remaining Shakers are on the Logos forums?
That was really funny! Thanks - I don't usually literally laugh out loud, but I did on this one.
Or even the SBC, were having a discussion now on whether we are actually evangelical or not.AAARRGHHH... I'm never going to learn to speak Evangelicalese.Just so you do not lump all non-denominationalists in with Evangelicals.
As to the shaker quip - I actually do know one of the four shakers; he is alive and well. I can't say we agreed on much, but he was an ally against the atheists in the mensa group I was part of. I honestly couldn't tell you how closely he even adhered to his chosen tradition as I know very little about it.
L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
Just so you do not lump all non-denominationalists in with Evangelicals.
Hey, I can speak Stone-Campbellese but with a bit of difficulty and a Boise accent. [;)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Just so you do not lump all non-denominationalists in with Evangelicals.Hey, I can speak Stone-Campbellese but with a bit of difficulty and a Boise accent.
[:D]
Still waiting for the Stone-Campbell package[:(]
Still waiting for the Stone-Campbell package
Me too. I had hoped we would see it with the release of Logos 7.
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Still waiting for the Stone-Campbell packageMe too. I had hoped we would see it with the release of Logos 7.
So am I. But it's perhaps not surprising that we haven't seen it yet, given the apparent difficulty FaithLife had getting the Orthodox base packages out.
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