Bibliographic citations as footnotes in LibreOffice

I don't have MS Office only LibreOffice. When I copy and paste from a Logos resource into a LibreOffice document, the bibliographic citation does not get placed at the bottom at the page as, I believe, it does when pasting into Word. Am I stuck with this behavior unless using Word, or is there a way to have bibliographic citations placed as footnotes at the bottom of the page. Otherwise, I have to create the footnote manually. That's not too much extra work, but of course we are all looking to minimize steps in our workflows.

Thanks.

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Jonathan Bradley

It's been a while since I have used LibreOffice, but you are correct about Microsoft Word. From my recollection, I though LibreOffice did as Word did with footnotes, however, there may have been updates on one side or another (LibreOffice or Logos) that made it not work, as it did with Apple's Pages a few years ago.

There is one setting in the Logos preferences you could check on. It's the "Copy Footnotes As" selection, as seen below:

I don't know if this will help or not without downloading Libre and trying it myself, which I am going to do here shortly.

aaylnx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857020#Comment_857020

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the different options under "Copy Footnotes as" don't seem to make a difference. The citation is still placed immediately under the quote rather than down at the bottom of the page in a footnote. Let me know if you (or any others) have any other thoughts.

Jonathan Bradley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857020#Comment_857020

It's been a while since I have used LibreOffice, but you are correct about Microsoft Word. From my recollection, I though LibreOffice did as Word did with footnotes, however, there may have been updates on one side or another (LibreOffice or Logos) that made it not work, as it did with Apple's Pages a few years ago.

There is one setting in the Logos preferences you could check on. It's the "Copy Footnotes As" selection, as seen below:

I don't know if this will help or not without downloading Libre and trying it myself, which I am going to do here shortly.

I feel funny quoting myself. I Just downloaded LibreOffice and tried it, and changing the setting doesn't work. LibreOffice is an open source program, so you might be able to request something in the forums or feedback area of the program. There's bound to be someone willing to work on a fix for this within that community.

aaylnx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857025#Comment_857025

Thanks. Yes, it doesn't seem to work. When doing a copy, Logos must include some kind of code, or send some kind of signal to MS Word that a certain portion of what is to be pasted needs to be placed in a footnote. I guess the question is does Libreoffice support such a procedure. Have the Logos developers inquired into this? Not sure. Any Logos developers seeing this thread and willing to chime in?

Nord Zootman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857102#Comment_857102

I'm not sure what the difference is, but I just tried and it working properly for me.

Nord Zootman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857105#Comment_857105

I just updated Libre office (I was one version back I believe) and it no longer works.

aaylnx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857110#Comment_857110

Nord, very interesting. I'm glad to hear that it worked on a previous version. It seems therefore that Logos had put some effort into making sure that this feature worked on Libreoffice previously, and therefore may simply need to make a software update. Do you know which version of Libreoffice you were using before you updated? BTW, I filed a bug report on this by sending a description to logosbugs@logos.com. Hopefully, this will help developers become aware of the problem.

aaylnx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857146#Comment_857146

Ok, I can now verify (thanks to Nord's helpful comment) that bibliographic citations are provided as footnotes in the previous major release version of LibreOffice. LibreOffice is now on the 5.2 series of releases. I downgraded to the last build of the 5.1 series, which can be found here, and citations are now automatically added as footnotes. This looks to be either a change in how the LibreOffice guys are doing things or just a bug. I hope some Logos developers will read this thread, and if after investigating things, they think a bug should be filed with LibreOffice, it can be done here.

Jonathan Bradley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857151#Comment_857151

Here is the link for the mac version of LibreOffice 5.1: HERE

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857151#Comment_857151

This looks to be either a change in how the LibreOffice guys are doing things or just a bug.

The inability to paste RTF from the clipboard appears to be a new bug in LibreOffice 5.2: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/77613/win-10-lo-52-doesnt-paste-rich-text-from-clipboard-to-doc/

If LibreOffice no longer accepts RTF formatted text from the clipboard, Logos 7 will not be able to send properly-formatted footnotes.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857693#Comment_857693

I think this is the LibreOffice bug report tracking the inability to paste RTF: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101828. Also reported here: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101150

aaylnx

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/857694#Comment_857694

Bradley,

Looks like you found the issue. Thanks! I'm guessing since this seems to be an issue affecting a wide number of people that it will get addressed sooner rather than later. I will keep my eye on the first bug report you list and see how it gets addressed. For now, I will stick with the 5.1 series of LibreOffice until they get this bug fixed. Thanks again!