The Logos Now Membership Program is here!

How often will the Mobile Ed course cycle?

I want to thank all of the Logos staff who have been so patient, gracious, and earnest in their efforts to present and clarify the details of this new program and Faithlife's reason for creating it.  I have cringed when reading some of the rather accusative member posts in this thread (and others) regarding the program and have subsequently been amazed at the gentle and helpful responses by staff members.  But I've also appreciated the staff's responses to so many questions from members who are simply trying to get a handle on the new program.  It does seem to me that Faithlife has made an earnest attempt to come up with a program that can have a very broad range of appeal.  By it's very nature however, I think any such program can lead to a lot of confusion and misunderstanding when first presented.  I don't know if Faithlife adequately anticipated the number and range of questions members would have, but I think the staff has done a great job in fielding them all.

I'm not in full-time ministry, so as a lay-person, I acknowledge I don't have as much skin in the game as those who are.  My vocation is not affected by Faithlife's offerings, whether in terms of features or resources.  Even so, I've had the software since the Libronix days and have upgraded with each new release of Logos.  I currently have the Logos 6 Gold library and have purchased many additional resources that were not offered as part of a package.  Unlike some, I have not kept an account of what I've spent with Faithlife, but I expect it's in the $4K to $5K range--possibly (probably [;)])higher.  In the past, I have followed discussions regarding the Logos Cloud and the old Logos Now programs, but I found them of little interest/value for me.  But I am looking very seriously at the new Logos Now program.  I am not at all upset that the new program provides both new customers and existing customers with easier, less expensive options for obtaining features that in the past required me to purchase a Gold library or above.  Nor do I feel the new program harms me in any other way.  I'm glad I can continue with business as usual, making my purchase decisions regarding features and resources as I always have if I so choose.  But I'm also thankful for the new options made available.

I also want to thank all the non-staff forum members who have responded to so many of our questions.  As is so often the case, your contributions have added much value to the forum.     

Is Mebin said:

Me thinks I'll wait for L8...I simply can't understand a word of this...maybe there should be some strategies that include the non-intelligencia

There is a real danger in this that Logos should consider. This is getting really complicated to understand. I tried to explain it to my pastor yesterday to encourage him to a Logos Now membership, but it took 10 minutes of back-and-forth discussion to *try* to get him to understand what is going on. It's just not simple or easy to understand. That is going to be an ongoing problem which may actually dampen Logos sales. The scheme needs to be simplified.

Is Mebin said:

Me thinks I'll wait for L8...I simply can't understand a word of this...maybe there should be some strategies that include the non-intelligencia

Don't feel alone.  By definition, the intelligencia is an elite intellectual group, and based on the questions and confusion evident in all the threads related to Logos Now, I suspect many of us have been feeling much like you.  I've learned that one thing I cannot do, is skim the posts and get much benefit from them.  For me, has become:  Read slowly; back up; re-read slowly; pause; ponder; re-read slowly.  Even then, it's been a bit of a challenge, but I think the fog is starting to clear.  In Alabama's post today at 10:15, I think he's drawn a good analogy of what's been going on here with his story of his grandmother shopping for a new TV.  I've been there and done that, so I couldn't help but chuckle when reading his post. 

Rick Ausdahl said:

I want to thank all of the Logos staff who have been so patient, gracious, and earnest in their efforts to present and clarify the details of this new program and Faithlife's reason for creating it.  I have cringed when reading some of the rather accusative member posts in this thread (and others) regarding the program and have subsequently been amazed at the gentle and helpful responses by staff members.  But I've also appreciated the staff's responses to so many questions from members who are simply trying to get a handle on the new program.  It does seem to me that Faithlife has made an earnest attempt to come up with a program that can have a very broad range of appeal.  By it's very nature however, I think any such program can lead to a lot of confusion and misunderstanding when first presented.  I don't know if Faithlife adequately anticipated the number and range of questions members would have, but I think the staff has done a great job in fielding them all.

Well said, and thank you Faithlife. I do think putting out the information about Logos Now prior to the launch of Logos 7 was a good idea, and staff (and users) have been very helpful at answering questions. I myself had asked a question, and it turned out my answer was in the very screenshot I had asked about! So even when Faithlife puts out the information, it is still subject to being overlooked, misunderstood, and misinterpreted, which has got to be extremely frustrating for them.

SineNomine said:

This thread gets a lot less complicated if you ignore everything in it about Logos Now that wasn't written by a Faithlife employee.

Now that would be an EXTREMELY helpful  filter to be able to apply to the threads that inevitably arise and go on for pages and pages whenever there is a big announcement. Would probably save a lot of time and frustration for all involved if such a thing could easily be implemented. 

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

Mattillo said:

Phil

Any chance of making videos in the media browser downloadable? Videos like the DaSilva series. Thanks

Are you looking to be able to watch them offline?

Yes sir. The DaSilva videos are great but my church has terrible wifi so it would be awesome if I could download them. Not sure how to use or access the new media included with now but once I find something I'd like to use it would be great to be able to download and show later

If I own logos five and I buy the new logos now will my version of the software say 6.13?

I'm pretty sure I understand what will be included when it ships, I just don't think the current numbering description will be helpful. For instance all new features after L6 are call L7 features even though they are released as 6.12 , 6.13 etc. then after day one of L7 they will start naming new  releases 7.1,2,3,4 etc. But are advertising that as early features of 8 etc.

When are the new features of Logos Now coming out?  I'm talking about programming features. This is my main interest in Logos Now since I have gold and above.  

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

For Logos Now members, the licensable features of version 7 of the product/SKU are released in versions 6.x–7.0 of the software/application. For everyone else they're released with version 7.0 of the application. The fact that a Logos 7 product feature can be used early while still running Logos 6.x doesn't make it a Logos 6 feature. It reinforces that Logos Now grants you early access to Logos 7 features.

If you can get your head around the product/SKU vs. software/application version difference, it starts to make sense.

That makes sense, though I feel sorry for the guys that have to sort that all out :-)

From this information, can I infer that L7 will not be released until after December 26, with these LN release dates set? 

Rick Carmickle said:

From this information, can I infer that L7 will not be released until after December 26, with these LN release dates set? 

Since Phil reassured some that they would be able to get their money back on their current purchase of a base package when L7 comes out if they so desire, I would expect that we are within 30 days of release, which would be within the standard return window.  If it is also going to be released on one of the scheduled dates, then that would seem to indicate 8/22.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

SineNomine said:

Phil et al., thank you for answering so many questions.

Unfortunately, I think you guys may have missed one of mine (from the bottom of the first page):

Will the special 5% Logos Now discount also apply to people with academic discounts?

I'm checking to confirm how this will work. Just want to be sure before giving an answer.

Yes. This will apply to people with academic discounts as well.

Awesome. That really increases the chance of me buying either when my free month runs out or when Verbum 7 comes out.

Hi,

Thank you for your reply.

I tried to type in "update now" in the command box, however, it says "no updates available," "no updates were found." I have Logos 5 software and I don't see any media under tools. Do I need to uninstall my Logos and re-install it again in order to update my software?

Appreciate your assistance.

Thank you so much MJ! I think your recommendation worked. God bless.

Verbum Now, Logos Now is a membership giving you the full features of Logos. This does not include any ownership of books or features. You do have preview access to certain resources each month. As well as new features that come out about every 6 weeks. You would still have to get a base package. I hope that helps.