Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible - Hover Pop Up

I like to use the "information" pane for Hebrew vocabulary. But for many of the words in the LHE the popup only says "(a) indicates that a is grammaticalized or lexicalized in Hebrew but not in English."It happens for a lot of the words. Am I missing something?

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Dave Hooton

You should still see the "information pane" at the bottom of the window if you hover on the manuscript word. The a in (a) refers to the word in parentheses when you Display the English Literal or Lexical value.

Stephen DeKuyper

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/389398#Comment_389398

Thanks Dave. I am getting the parsing on the bottom of the pane, but what I am trying to get is the parsing in the window called "Information" which can be found under the tools menu. It is a separate window and it is set to my preferred lexicon.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/389913#Comment_389913

but what I am trying to get is the parsing in the window called "Information" which can be found under the tools menu.

The popup from the resource text is independent of the content that "Information" pane displays. Its Settings menu should govern what you see.

EDIT: I got the popup to appear in the "Information" pane but only when hovering over the relevant part of the English Literal value. Otherwise I got the full parsing info as per its Settings (when hovering the manuscript word).

Stephen DeKuyper

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/389992#Comment_389992

I checked the settings, but everything seems to be okay.

It just seems arbitrary, but when I hover over one word, I get a popup like the one in my earlier email. But when I try to click on it, nothing happens. The next word doesn't have a popup, but when I click on it, the parsing information shows up in the Information Pane. There does not seem to be any rhyme or reason. I don't get this same thing in other resources, just LHE.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/390244#Comment_390244

I checked the settings,

I'm using the hover option in Settings and get different behaviour (like yours) if I use click; is click what you use?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/390311#Comment_390311

To be honest I can't quite tell exactly what Stephen's frustration is. But what he mentions (the upper popup when mousing over) is curious. I've compared the same passage in L3 and L4 and L4 goes crazy with that specific popup. Can't say on all passages though. Now, it might well be L3 is the problem-child and L4 is correct. But as he said, it's specific to Lexham Hebrew.

In my early L4 days I just used to laugh about it (while grinding my teeth), since if you have smaller panels this particular popup would always 'win' and hide the morph popup.

Thomas Ball

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/390323#Comment_390323

There a few behaviors that can occur from hovering over text in Logos 4, and so that I can be sure what behavior we are looking for is, and what is actually going on can someone take annotated screens of both, and indicate in the screens where the mouse is hovering/clicking?

Thank you.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/391827#Comment_391827

Hi Tommy

I don't know if this is the source of the OP's question, but it illustrates the behavior.

Above are two screen shots; 1 from Libronix and the other from Logos4.

To get the popup in Libronix to show, you have to place your mouse over the english literal translation (circled) and indeed over either the "(" (1st popup) or "/" (2nd popup). If this line isn't display, no popup occurs (though the morph one does at the bottom of the panel).

In Logos4, the above popups get stacked when your mouse is over the hebrew, even if the interlinear line isn't being displayed.

The net result is the user sees a bunch of popups with no clue what they apply to (in Logos4).

Again, this is specific to Lexham Hebrew. (sorry for the formatting; it's the forum javascript problem).

Thomas Ball

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/391870#Comment_391870

Thanks DMB:

I think I see what was referred to in terms of getting different information when hovering vs clicking. I'll look into it. Please update this thread if there is something you're not sure I'm getting.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/391870#Comment_391870

Was having trouble above writing in the input box. Anyway, in Logos4, with maybe only the hebrew and morph lines displayed, L4 still has the popping popup going crazy without any of the gloss lines showing. In Libronix this doesn't happen.

Then if you're like me and you keep small interlinears showing just to glance at, the popping popup is senior to the morph popup and covers the morph popup up (thereby requiring stopping, making the height of the panel greater to separate the popups from each other).

Therefore (!) it'd be nice if they didn't automate the gloss popups without the gloss showing.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/391874#Comment_391874

I think I see what was referred to in terms of getting different information when hovering vs clicking. I'll look into it. Please update this thread if there is something you're not sure I'm getting.

The OP had problems with Tools >> Information and the results displayed there with the Settings of Hover or Click.

Stephen DeKuyper

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/391931#Comment_391931

Sorry, but I have been offline.

I have set the information panel to "Click". No problem.

First shot is when I clicked on יהוה in 5:1 (line 2). No problem.

Then I tried to click the previous word אמר and this is what I get. An unwanted popup, but no Information in the panel:

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/392130#Comment_392130

Well, ok ... you're on a Mac so I'm not sure the behavior is the same on each platform.

But on the windows side, best I can figure, the 'hover' never puts the gloss notes in the info box no matter what you ok or don't. While I was trying various combinations, I also notice the hover over doesn't line up correctly with the interlinear columns on some of the items.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/392130#Comment_392130

First shot is when I clicked on יהוה in 5:1 (line 2). No problem.

Best to report the problem in the Mac forum - saves confusion. You could start a new thread there and include a link to this one.

Tonya J Ross

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/392130#Comment_392130

There is a preexisting case for a very similar issue with the LHI and the Information panel. I will update that case with a link to this thread. Thanks!

Ćokovac

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/392513#Comment_392513

Still no solution to this problem?? thanks!

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/862443#Comment_862443

Still no solution to this problem?? thanks!

Welcome [:D]

Concur LHI has pop-up for interlinear lines that appears even when associated line is not being displayed, which can be replicated using Logos 7.2 Beta 3 (plus remember this issue goes back many years).

Keep Smiling [:)]