Would it be Possible to Have English-German dictionary ?

I could use one.  I've forgotten the majority of my German.

Some time back I submitted a "Suggestion" (aka "Request") that a German-English dictionary be added. I even suggested that Logos add The Collins Concise German - English Dictionary. In L3 I could hover on a German word and click a hot key to bring up the definition. For some reason that functionality disappeared in L4 - I now have to type the word into the Collins search box. BUT, Logos already has the Collins Latin - English Dictionary, so why not add the Collins German - English Dictionary? This would be a great help for those of us with the Stuttgart Electronic Study Bible.

Grace, mercy, and peace,

Steve

Rosie Perera said:

So now you can right-click on a word, make sure "Selection" is the tab selected on the right side of the popup menu, and then choose "Look up" on the left:

On my computer it's much faster (and easier) if I just double-click on the desired word. In my case I get the word looked up in Concise Oxford English Dictionary.

Stephen Maling said:

Good morning, Rosie,

Thanks for your reply. But I still don't understand why the Collins Concise German Dictionary, an app completely outside/separate/distinct from Logos 3, brings up an English definition of a German word when the cursor is on the German word and the hotkey is clicked, yet this won't work in Logos 4.

You're right that it is a completely separate application outside and unrelated to Logos 3, so I'm sure Logos 3 had nothing to do with implementing the hotkey that would bring up the Collins dictionary. Windows applications can attach themselves to system-wide hotkeys and bring themselves up based on whatever is selected on the screen at the time, regardless of what application is running. (In fact, Logos 4.0b has added a hotkey Ctrl+Alt+B to bring up the Copy Bible Verses command from within your word processor; Word knows nothing about it and didn't need to cooperate in order to make this work.) On this page http://www.collinsdictionaries.com/shop/bilingual-german.aspx, I read about the Collins Concise German Dictionary for Mac and Windows: "Install the Concise German Dictionary to your hard drive and access more than 100,000 references on your desktop computer. This software has audio pronunciation, a verb conjugation tool, a numeral-to-text translator and hotkey commands." (my bold)

I wonder if your Collins dictionary works with other apps (word processor, web browser, etc.) or only with Logos 3? It might be that Logos 4 is doing something (unintentionally, no doubt) to prevent the Collins application from receiving notification from Windows that its hotkey was pressed? Or maybe you need to uninstall Collins and reinstall it after Logos 4 has been installed in order for the hotkey to work properly with Logos 4. Or maybe it lets you customize which hotkey will bring it up and the default hotkey conflicts with some Logos 4 keyboard shortcut, in which case you'd simply need to choose a different hotkey in Collins. If after trying all of these possible solutions, you still can't get it to work, then it is probably some conflict between L4 and the Collins app which Logos will need to look into. But also check the with Collins tech support folks and see if they have other known solutions for when their hotkey doesn't work with certain applications.

Greetings, Rosie and Amy,

Amy, I'm sorry your trial version won't work with L3. My download continues to work well with L3, as recently as this morning.

Rosie, thanks for taking time to respond with cogent suggestions.

My Dictionary works with some, but not all other apps and some but all all web pages. With L4 all I get is a Collins message: "Unable to detect word". Some weeks back I tried changing the hotkey - no luck. Just now I tried another Collins hotkey which is not on Morris Proctor's list of "Logos 4 Shortcuts" - no luck. I'm not sure how to uninstall and reinstall a download - I suppose I could copy it to my external hard drive and then copy it back again. Like Pooh, "I'm a bear of very little brain," especially in tech matters. So I'll follow up with the Logos and Collins tech support folks.

Shalom, shalom,

Steve

Dan DeVilder said:

that script always fascinated me.  looks like little people! 

Yes, and some of the characters look like tuning forks (which I was just reminded of yesterday, as I had my hearing tested):

Phil Gons said:

Would you be interested in a public domain German-English dictionary? If so, does anyone know what the best one is? There are several at Google Books and Open Library. Let me know, and we'll see about getting something up on Community Pricing.

I'm not familiar with the public domain dictionaries so I would hesitate to make a recommendation on those.
Of course, the ideal would be to have Oxford-Duden but it is not public domain.
I, for one, would be willing to pay for it.

What about a resource that is out of copyright?  A very good one that comes to my mind is the Muret-Sanders Enzyklopädisches Wörterbuch published in 1902.  This is (I think) the precurser to Langenscheidt's 4 volume Enzyklopädisches Wörterbuch which I mentioned in another post.  [A]

The problem is, of course, where to find a hardcopy to work on it!!!  I wonder if it is possible to OCR other people's scanned images?  Or get permission from them to use their work - someone scanned it and is selling it here (as an application with searchable scanned images)? 

http://www.theabsolute.net/dictionaries/#muret

They also carry the Köhler's classic German-English dictionary but I am not too familiar with that one.  I also have the Stardict's G-E dictionary converted to be used in my eReader, but I find it generally inadequate for use (vocabulary too small).  I have downloaded Stardict's Langenscheidt DaF dictionary at one point too but I suspect that one is a copyright infringement.  [;)]

Tes, I've got the same (now called the Office Bibliothek, I got v. 4.0 and 5.0 from different resources, but I have 4.0 installed because I like it better).  I've installed a couple other dictionaries in it together with the Duden Großwörterbuch Englisch so it's very convenitent as I can search several dictionaries in one go (Duden Deutsches Universalwörterbuch, Duden Das große Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache and Langenscheidt's e-Großwörterbuch Deutsch als Fremdsprache).  I've disabled the Direktsuche on startup though, so I never got to use it with Logos.  And because there're not many German resources in Logos I never thought about using it there.  [;)]

I'll try to do so tonight when I go home and let you know whether the Direktsuche is compatible with L3/ L4 or not (I suspect that the answer is yes for L3 and no for L4, because that was what happened to Langenscheidt's DAF when I installed and tested it last night). 

Tes, I've tested and have the following results:

1. Though I like Office-Bibliothek the most, the Direktsuche of my Office-Bibliothek 4.0 doesn't work with L3 or L4.  It doesn't work well with my Digitale-Bibliothek either.  [:(]  And updating to 5.0 broke the Direktsuche completely.

2. Langenscheidt's "award winning" Pop-up Suche does better, it works with L3, Digitale-Bibliothek but not with L4.

3. The same goes for Collin's - it works with L3, Digitale-Bibliothek but not with L4. 

4. Both Langenscheidt's and Collin's recognized inflections.

Guess we'll have to wait for Logos to come up with some German dictionaries (and German resources [;)]).   Alternatively, maybe we should pester Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft to include some dictionaries for the next SESB release.  [:)]