Logos 7 FREE engine

Where can I find the link to download the FREE Logos 7 core engine? 

I understand that I have to buy or upgrade to a package with data sets for some of the new functionality to work. Since I already own many of the resources bundled in the upgrade packs I am simply interested in staying current with the latest core engine and using any of the new features that work with what I already have.

Thanks in advance, 

Jason

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    They usually make you wait a while before the free engine is released, as an incentive to upgrade. If you want L7 now, you will need to search for the cheapest Base Package you can get with your dynamic pricing or subscribe to Logos Now.

    My understanding is that the free engine will not be available for several months. That is the way it has been with each new version release.

    Also, keep in mind that there is very little difference in the L7 and L6 engines. 

    I'm not sure I understand why current users not ready to purchase a new upgrade package have to wait.

    Consider Apple's model: When new iPhone models are released, the new operating system is simultaneously made available as a free upgrade to those with older phones. What's the harm in letting past loyal logos customers merely upgrade their core engines at the same time of a new roll out? If they want the latest greatest features they can buy the data sets in upgrade packages. 

    For someone that's spent over $1000 in resources with a company, the current model feels less like a culture that wants provide the best platform for resources for their user base and more like a corporation that is simply focused on maximizing profits each quarter.

    The free engine will be available in February, which is six months from launch.  I guess they want to give everyone a chance to buy it before they give it away.  

    I'm not sure I understand why current users not ready to purchase a new upgrade package have to wait.

    Consider Apple's model: When new iPhone models are released, the new operating system is simultaneously made available as a free upgrade to those with older phones. What's the harm in letting past loyal logos customers merely upgrade their core engines at the same time of a new roll out? If they want the latest greatest features they can buy the data sets in upgrade packages. 

    For someone that's spent over $1000 in resources with a company, the current model feels less like a culture that wants provide the best platform for resources for their user base and more like a corporation that is simply focused on maximizing profits each quarter.

    You are in luck! You don't need to wait. If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase. The only difference would be the version number that gets displayed in the application.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

    Thank you, Andrew, for this note. And thank you, FaithLife, for this gift. At age 80 I need to be careful not to buy a bunch of books I'll never get to[:)]

    You are in luck! You don't need to wait. If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase.

    Andrew, while I won't complain about the L7 rollout over all or the latest LN features, do please also flip that statement around: if you purchased 7.0, the experience is exactly the same as if you had just stayed with 6.14.

    Some UI enhancement or even just a reskinning would have helped a long way in making it feel more "new" and not just another 6-week release of LN.

    If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase.

    I'm not sure I agree with the statement that purchasing 7.0 gives you the same experience as if you'd stayed on 6.14.

    I suppose the syntax of the first statement could possibly be parsed as "If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase [but not the same experience as if you were running 7.0 today with also making a purchase]" but even so, [8-)].

    You are in luck! You don't need to wait. If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase. The only difference would be the version number that gets displayed in the application.

    For clarification, as some may need this specified...

    I suppose the syntax of the first statement could possibly be parsed as "If you are running 6.14, then you are getting the exact same experience you would get if you were running 7.0 today without making any purchase [but not the same experience as if you were running 7.0 today with also making a purchase]" but even so, Roll Eyes.

    Jason, the free Logos 7 engine will be available in February. We're asking customers who get access to it through a Logos 7 purchase not to share that link with others.

    We do this for a few reasons:

    1. 6.14, which is available to everyone as of Monday, and 7.0 are essentially the same app, with just a different version name and splash screen. The code is otherwise virtually identical. So downloading 7.0 wouldn't change anything meaningful for you.
    2. The Logos 7 features that will eventually be free are restricted temporarily by licenses. Once we make the 7 engine available to everyone, we'll remove those license restrictions. Until then we don't want people to get confused by thinking they have 7.0 (and getting disappointed that it's virtually identical to 6.14). It's common for people not to understand the differences between the free software update, the feature set upgrade, and the library upgrade. By deferring the free software update by a few months, it allows us to make sure more people understand these important differences.
    3. The release of a new version creates a lot of demand on our teams, and limiting access to the new version of the app to those who purchase it allows us to reduce the demand on our customer service and technical support teams and provide better service.

    AND 4. the software police are already looking for those that share... :) hehehehehee (just adding some brevity)

    Phil or Andrew:

    Are either of you able to confirm at this time whether or not the Multiview Resources tool will be included with the free Logos 7 Core Engine? 

    The Multiview Resources three vertical line icon is distracting my eyes from focusing on resource text and other panel contents.  If the free Logos 7 Core Engine does in fact not include the Multiview Resources tool, I could return the Full Feature Set and wait for the Core Engine to be released in February.  This would of course mean sacrificing most if not all of the new Logos 7 features, but eliminating the visual distraction would be worth it for me. 

    I am aware of the Reading View mode and its ability to hide the resource tool panel, but as you know, efficient use of the program requires operating from the regular "non-Reading View" mode much of the time.

    Thank you

    Hi Willie

    If you buy the logos 7 starter features the mutiview resources is included I got it for just £18.74 or about $22 

    Ruth 

    Hi Willie

    If you buy the logos 7 starter features the mutiview resources is included I got it for just £18.74 or about $22 

    Ruth 

    Hi Ruth,

    If you are referring to my post from last September in which I asked whether the Multiview Resources tool would be included with the free L7 Core Engine, I appreciate your reply, but the second paragraph of my post explained the reason for my question.  It read as follows: "The Multiview Resources three vertical line icon is distracting my eyes from focusing on resource text and other panel contents.  If the free Logos 7 Core Engine does in fact not include the Multiview Resources tool, I could return the Full Feature Set and wait for the Core Engine to be released in February.  This would of course mean sacrificing most if not all of the new Logos 7 features, but eliminating the visual distraction would be worth it for me." 

    In a subsequent reply, Phil Gons confirmed the free L7 Core Engine would not include the Multiview Resources tool which provided me with an acceptable solution, although I'm hoping Logos might eventually allow us the option of hiding the resource panel toolbar from within the normal viewing mode.  

    Thanks anyway for attempting to help.

    Is this Logos 7 Free engine https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic

    It's more than the free core engine. That package lets new customers try a limited set of Logos 7 features by also giving them temporary access to some resources and datasets.

    Right now, there is an issue where the store lets you re-buy it, but the program and resources do download to your computer.

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

    If I am already a Logos Now subscriber, should I download this Logos 7 Engine? Or would it be a waste of time. 

    should I download this Logos 7 Engine? Or would it be a waste of time. 

    If you are already using the L7 engine, you don't need to re-download it. 

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    I'm not sure I understand why current users not ready to purchase a new upgrade package have to wait.

    Consider Apple's model: When new iPhone models are released, the new operating system is simultaneously made available as a free upgrade to those with older phones. What's the harm in letting past loyal logos customers merely upgrade their core engines at the same time of a new roll out? If they want the latest greatest features they can buy the data sets in upgrade packages. 

    For someone that's spent over $1000 in resources with a company, the current model feels less like a culture that wants provide the best platform for resources for their user base and more like a corporation that is simply focused on maximizing profits each quarter.

    Jason, the free Logos 7 engine will be available in February. We're asking customers who get access to it through a Logos 7 purchase not to share that link with others.

    We do this for a few reasons:

    1. 6.14, which is available to everyone as of Monday, and 7.0 are essentially the same app, with just a different version name and splash screen. The code is otherwise virtually identical. So downloading 7.0 wouldn't change anything meaningful for you.
    2. The Logos 7 features that will eventually be free are restricted temporarily by licenses. Once we make the 7 engine available to everyone, we'll remove those license restrictions. Until then we don't want people to get confused by thinking they have 7.0 (and getting disappointed that it's virtually identical to 6.14). It's common for people not to understand the differences between the free software update, the feature set upgrade, and the library upgrade. By deferring the free software update by a few months, it allows us to make sure more people understand these important differences.
    3. The release of a new version creates a lot of demand on our teams, and limiting access to the new version of the app to those who purchase it allows us to reduce the demand on our customer service and technical support teams and provide better service.

    I understand. Thanks Phil. 

    Interesting comment and then my question is, if I am happy with the library I already own, what advantage would purchasing the "Starter Package" have if the 6.14 and the Logos 7 app are essentially the same?

    Since I already own many of the resources bundled in the upgrade packs I am simply interested in staying current with the latest core engine and using any of the new features that work with what I already have.

    Suggest exploring ways to get Logos 7 => https://www.logos.com/ways-to-get-logos

    Without appropriate feature and dataset licenses, Logos 7 behaves the same as Logos 6.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

    I wish they would hurry up and do it because their upgrade reminder that shows up when I launch the app crashes the app every time.

    Welcome to the forums John! 

    I wish they would hurry up

    February 

    their upgrade reminder that shows up when I launch the app crashes the app every time

    It may be completely unrelated. Please create a new thread (presumably in the L6 forum). Explain your issue clearly, provide all appropriate details and post logs. See my signature line for instructions. 

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