It's crossed the production line at $18. I'd wager we can drive it down perhaps as low as $10. Bid!
https://www.logos.com/product/26323/lexham-bible-guide-jonah
Lets just go to $16.00. That is reasonable. If everyone would switch, that would do it.
I received this email just a short time ago...
"Bidding will close on 1/1/0001 at 12:00pm Pacific time for Lexham Bible Guide: Jonah.The current community price for this product is $0.00.Your bid for this product is $18.00.Upon closing, your current bid will be successful and your Pre-Pub order for this product will be placed at the community price. To edit your bids for community priced products, visit http://www.logos.com/user/orders.The final price for this product will be lower for everyone if we receive enough new bids before the closing date, so please spread the word to anyone you know who may be interested in this. Thank you for your interest in this product!Logos Bible Software1313 Commercial StreetBellingham, WA 98225-43071-800-875-6467"
I received this email just a short time ago... "Bidding will close on 1/1/0001 at 12:00pm Pacific time for Lexham Bible Guide: Jonah.The current community price for this product is $0.00.
"Bidding will close on 1/1/0001 at 12:00pm Pacific time for Lexham Bible Guide: Jonah.The current community price for this product is $0.00.
All bidders apparently got that. I mentioned the errors in a different thread.
I'm in.
mm.
I think that getting it to $16 is still quite an effort - and to clarify your statement: the 'everyone's that need to switch are those who have bids lower than $16 since the bids for $18 are already factored in for the percentage showing for $16.
What we'd need even more is people to switch/activate the "bid" button for the first time (not bad to receive such a resource at either $18 or $16).
I can't believe that I bid on this in 2013. No wonder I don't remember [:D]
For clarification: Your method only works when people who are LOWER than $16 bid $16 (or higher). Here is a simplified version:
[Y]
I've been in at $18 for sometime - but would be much happier with a lower price (sort of goes without saying, and yet I said it [;)])
Does not seem to be moving.
Bump.
$16 is about to cross the line! Bid ≧$18!
Still hoping for a few more bidders to reach $16
Agreed [Y]
I'm not sure the Community Pricing is working properly. It doesn't look to me if the curve has changed all week, even though attention has been drawn to it in this thread. The wrong information in the email we all received and the static curve are all I have to go on but it is curious that the price hasn't moved.
Colin
I am sure it is working properly, just maybe not to our hopes. It is strange that these resources would sit for so long without moving and then two of them go in one week. They have always been close, but the day before they moved over, they were still at 90%. I feel that sometimes it is in Logos best interest to get a resource into production so they allow it to go over the line even if there isn't enough bids. The expectation is that more bidders will come and bring it all the way to 100%. The progress has to go from 90% to 100% then beyond to go to a lower price. Logos has committed to a certain price and if no one extra bids, they take a loss. I am sure in this case that enough bids have come in to reach the $18 and $20 amounts, but not enough to move the needle to a lower price. I can't confirm this at all and I may be dead wrong, but this is just my observation over time. If I am right, I have absolutely no problem with Logos doing this and I wish they had done it sooner.
The other thing is that just because something is on the forum doesn't mean people see them. I am sure that most who are on the forums regularly watch community price and prepub products and are well informed. Most of the people I know who use Logos never go to the forums unless they have a problem so posts here are never seen. I became a forum junkie on another site so I compulsively check the forums here regularly, but most people do not.
Although I would love to see a lower price, I feel that both are good values at the current price and will support them all the way to production.
It has moved! It's on the verge of $16 crossing the line!
It is strange that these resources would sit for so long without moving and then two of them go in one week.
The numbers for the Lexham Bible Guides on 1 Peter, Jonah, and Ruth have moved ahead fairly closely together (within 10–15% of each other) for years. I was expecting all 3 of them to get to 100% around the same time, but it was taking a long time to close the gap of that last 10% or so.
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I feel that sometimes it is in Logos best interest to get a resource into production so they allow it to go over the line even if there isn't enough bids. ... Logos has committed to a certain price and if no one extra bids, they take a loss.
On occasion, resources have been started before pre-pub or community pricing reached 100%, but with these Bible guides, we've incurred no costs beyond creating the product pages to gauge interest. However, I think we revised our estimate of the production cost at some point using the information on our true costs of creating the Bible guides for Paul's letters. Since we had a better idea of what it would take to produce these, I wanted the pre-pub to be accurate. I was also trying to keep pricing under $20. Those factors made it take longer to hit 100%. I'm glad it's there now, though, and we're working on a plan for getting Jonah out this year.
I have a bid of $16 in place. I'm depending on others to pull the trigger! [:)]
The only way for anyone to know how beneficial this will be or any of these guides is to publish the bibliography for each one- in a download format that can be used within Logos- this way each person will know how many resources they do or do not own.
This is the only way to make an informed decision- and yes I know you have 30 days to return it- but with this approach it becomes unnecessary.
Ping! Just so the closing community pricing resources are brought to mind! Several are really close to lowering their price. [:)]
Well... stayed at $18.
How long before downloads begin?
Well... stayed at $18. How long before downloads begin?
Hitting 100% of production cost on community pricing means that we will begin working on the resource. I don't have a specific date for when the finished product will ship, but our plan is to ship it later this year.
I was hoping maybe... later this month! (lol)
Thanks for the quick reply.
