Help? Searching

Donnie Hale
Donnie Hale Member Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

What is the right way to do a topic search. The example on an empty search panel is <Topic Law>. Where should I be able to do that? If I do it as a bible search or as a basic search in ESV or LEB, I get zero results. If I do a basic search in All Resources, I get quite a number of hits.

Similarly, with <Topic Lord's Supper>, I get I use Bible Browser to find the topic. But if I do a bible search: All Bible Text / New Testament / ESV, I get 0 results. I've seen the problem previously, I believe when doing a <Person> search. I chalked it up to an anomaly then. Now I'm not sure.

Can anyone help?

This is on 7.4 SR-1 with Logos Now, Windows 10.

Thanks,

Donnie

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    The basic search on all resources should give you a complete list of all resources containing the tag. Any subset of those resources will produce results. It there are Bibles in the list, you should be able to mix a topic search with a Bible or media search (or morphology search). It will not mix with a clause or syntax search.

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  • What is the right way to do a topic search.

    Bible Search has right click strategy plus refinement example in thread => Search Help!!!!

    Similarly, with <Topic Lord's Supper>

    Started by Right Click in a verse of the Lord's Supper: e.g. John 13:18 that showed a topical Preaching Theme in right hand side:

    {Section <PreachingTheme = Jesus: Passion>}

    Earlier in John 13, noticed a Culture tagging:

    {Section <Culture Betrayal>}

    The example on an empty search panel is <Topic Law>

    For <Topic Law>, searched everything using example. Clicked on search result to open Factbook to Law. Factbook section "Cultural Concepts" has search all resources for "Law" using Culture tagging:

    {Section <Culture = Law>}

    Factbook Senses section has Bible Sense Lexicon entries that could be searched: e.g.

    <Sense Torah ⇔ law>

    Philippians 3:5 Right Click includes another Bible Sense Lexicon search:

    <Sense = Mosaic law system>

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    What is the right way to do a topic search. The example on an empty search panel is <Topic Law>.

    To summarize, <Topic xxx> is a legacy, unproductive search because the Topic Guide is the best way to go in general. The Topic section of a Everything search gives simlar results (e.g. using Law in the OT), but a Bible search will be productive if you type the word law and observe that you can search for a Theme and Culture, except that you have to alter the syntax to {Section <Culture Law>} or {Section <PreachingTheme Law>}. FL have stubbornly refused to correct the suggested syntax, so it's no wonder there is confusion about these types of search.

    Dave
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  • Donnie Hale
    Donnie Hale Member Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭

    So you're saying a *basic* search for <Topic Law> in my "English Bibles" collection should yield results? Not at my L7 desktop right now, so I can't verify.

    Thanks,

    Donnie

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    So you're saying a *basic* search for <Topic Law> in my "English Bibles" collection should yield results?

    See my response above. Faithlife need to fix their suggested searches whether in the Search 'Help' panel or coming from Search autocomplete.

    <Topic Law> gets 12 results in 9 non-bibles in my library of 1800 resources!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13