Verb Forms--Second Request
ey everyone,
1 John 5:1. John uses the participle for believing and the Perfect tense for being born of God. Of course, in Greek the action of the perfect precedes the action of the participle; meaning that being born of God comes before believing; born of God being the antecedent of believing.
My question is what would be the easiest way in Logos to find that exact type of Verb usage. participle verb with the antecedent being the perfect.
Thanks!
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The participle is attributive and with the article functions almost like a substantive (i.e., "believers"). The tenses of participles are relative not absolute. Usually, a present tense participle is contemporaneous with the main verb.
If you want to search such constructions, your could open syntactical New Testaments and first compare how they label the participle. I would also look for 1 John 5:1 in grammars for the same purpose and perhaps check a couple technical commentaries. This will tell you whether the force of the participle is agreed on or contested.
Then within syntactical New Testaments, you can usually right-click on the participle and from the context menu search for the morphological and syntactical category in which it belongs. In order to make your search more pointed, you may have to cut and paste arguments from several simple searches launched from the context menu.
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
My question is what would be the easiest way in Logos to find that exact type of Verb usage. participle verb with the antecedent being the perfect.
Syntax search can find similar constructions:
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
My question is what would be the easiest way in Logos to find that exact type of Verb usage. participle verb with the antecedent being the perfect.
Syntax search can find similar constructions:
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Trying to build my own search by your example. And I see where to add the Clause function as the subject, but cannot find where to add any of the other things in the box; "mood" and "part of speech". How do I get those in the box as well to search?
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
And I see where to add the Clause function as the subject, but cannot find where to add any of the other things in the box; "mood" and "part of speech". How do I get those in the box as well to search?
Can click on Clause Function for specifics:
Hovering mouse over S in Cascadia Syntax Graphs shows Subject Function (so checked Subject for Clause Function) plus pop-up at bottom showed participle so entered @V in Head Term Morphology followed by clicking Participle.then clicked arrow:
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
And I see where to add the Clause function as the subject, but cannot find where to add any of the other things in the box; "mood" and "part of speech". How do I get those in the box as well to search?
Can click on Clause Function for specifics:
Hovering mouse over S in Cascadia Syntax Graphs shows Subject Function (so checked Subject for Clause Function) plus pop-up at bottom showed participle so entered @V in Head Term Morphology followed by clicking Participle.then clicked arrow:
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Makes perfect sense.....Thank you!!
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Another problem that I am having is that when I bring up the parts of speech in the @ in the morphology box, it cuts off most of the parts of speech and will not allow me to select them. If I cannot select the parts of speech then this really does not do my any good. Any suggestions?
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
Any suggestions?
The Morphology codes in Syntax Search are the same as Morph Search so one possibility is select @ codes in Morph Search followed by copy and paste into Syntax Search.
Another idea is moving Syntax Search so have more room on monitor for Morph Code pop-up.
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
Any suggestions?
The Morphology codes in Syntax Search are the same as Morph Search so one possibility is select @ codes in Morph Search followed by copy and paste into Syntax Search.
Another idea is moving Syntax Search so have more room on monitor for Morph Code pop-up.
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Not sure what you mean by moving. The Syntax search is the only screen that I have open and it fits fine, but when I open the box to put in the particulars of the search and get down to the morph. most of the morphology is off the screen and I am not able to access it. So I am not sure what you mean by moving the search.
Another issue that I would like to get your opinion is that what I am able to put in , there appears to be a space between all the parts of speech inside of my clause box and there were no spaces in yours. What could be causing that space?
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
So I am not sure what you mean by moving the search.
Floating Syntax Search allows window to be moved.
Pastor Michael Huffman said:Another issue that I would like to get your opinion is that what I am able to put in , there appears to be a space between all the parts of speech inside of my clause box and there were no spaces in yours. What could be causing that space?
Would like to see screen shot; Logos wiki => Screenshot
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
Another problem that I am having is that when I bring up the parts of speech in the @ in the morphology box, it cuts off most of the parts of speech and will not allow me to select them. If I cannot select the parts of speech then this really does not do my any good. Any suggestions?
Pastor Michael,
Can you post a screenshot as well as steps for what morphology you are trying to search for? This will help us reproduce this.
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