How do I run a search on Cyrus the Great In Isa. 44:27-28; 45:1 and Darius in Daniel 5:31 to see if they are the same person?
Thanks.
Susan Murphy
Assuming that what you mean is that you want to find discussions of this question in your resources, I suggest that you search for:
Cyrus WITHIN {Milestone <Bible ~ Daniel 6>}
Using Basic Search and having "type:commentary" to indicate which resources you want to search.
This will search your commentaries for the word Cyrus in sections that intersect with Daniel 6.
I hope this helps. If not, you would need to provide more details on what you are looking for.
You're better off just searching 'cyrus NEAR darius'. The Isa/Dan refs may or may not be included, but they're assumed. Your problem will be a resourse explanation amenable to your class ... at least that's what I noticed.
Assuming that what you mean is that you want to find discussions of this question in your resources, I suggest that you search for: Cyrus WITHIN {Milestone <Bible ~ Daniel 6>} Using Basic Search and having "type:commentary" to indicate which resources you want to search. This will search your commentaries for the word Cyrus in sections that intersect with Daniel 6. I hope this helps. If not, you would need to provide more details on what you are looking for.
Thanks for this tip. I tried this and also used Darius vs Cyrus, which turned up some good results.
It's really hard for me to tell if they are 2 separate people or the same person. I see pros and cons. I think what I'm going to do is let this be a challenge question for the people in my small group (about 20 people) and see what they come up with.
Denise,
Thanks for your tip. You're so right, this a difficult call. I think I'm just going let the group search this and see what they come up with. Even though I'm going to keep researching and hopefully solve this enigma.
Susan
The New American Commentary on Daniel is good in addressing historical questions of this kind (and addresses this question in particular). If you don't have it but lead a group on Daniel, this could be a worthwhile investment.
https://www.logos.com/product/2031/the-new-american-commentary-daniel
You're better off just searching 'cyrus NEAR darius'.
Concur plus searches can be combined:
(Cyrus NEAR Darius) OR (Cyrus WITHIN {Milestone <Dn5-6>})
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The New American Commentary on Daniel is good in addressing historical questions of this kind (and addresses this question in particular). If you don't have it but lead a group on Daniel, this could be a worthwhile investment. https://www.logos.com/product/2031/the-new-american-commentary-daniel
Francis,
Thank you so much for mentioning The New American Commentary on Daniel. I do have this commentary and I just read the whole Daniel comments they have and its just in time for my class this coming Wednesday. It's very good.
Also, I have David Jeremiah's "Agents of Babylon" cds (12 of them) on Daniel, and it says just about the same thing The New American Commentary says. It's really good. The commentary does add other tidbits of knowledge that are very good. From what I've studied and researched I'm now of the opinion that when Belshazzar died, the kingdom when to the Medes and the Persians and Cyrus and Darius were co-leaders of the Medes and Persians. There were two arms on the image. One was for the Medes (Darius) and one was for the Persians (Cyrus).Daniel 6:28 "So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian."
On David Jeremiah's CD number 5 he tells how Herodotus in secular history went into great detail telling how Cyrus led an army that took over Babylon and many things that happened that fateful night. It is very good.
We're having fun in my class. But I always want to stay true to the scriptures.
Blessings,
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I also came across information in my research on Darius that Darius is not a name, but a Median title and that was used by Cyrus him. This is discussed in Jack W. Hayford and Gary Curtis' book "Until the End of Time: Revealing the Future of Humankind: A Study of Daniel and Revelations in chapter 6 of that book.
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Although Wikipedia can be unreliable in some respects, it has the built-in check and balances in that peers and readers can flag material that is inaccurate. It may not be infallible, but a lot of the articles are actually written by experts. With that in mind, see the following article (which you can also access in Logos through the Wikipedia tool):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_I
It has "Darius" as a name (knowing of course, that dynastic names were often adopted after accession and frequently not the birth name of the person). See also the link in the opening paragraph to Darius the Mede from Daniel, which does discuss in detail the question of his identity.