The Christian Standard Bible (CSB)—Now on Pre-Pub (+ you may qualify for a free copy!)

Hello,

We're pleased to announce that the Christian Standard Bible (CSB), a major overhaul of their popular Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) is now available on Pre-Pub!

https://www.logos.com/product/134491/christian-standard-bible

You also might qualify for a free copy!

If you have already purchased the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB), place your Pre-Pub order for the Christian Standard Bible (CSB) and you’ll receive the CSB for free once it ships! To qualify, you must (1) have already purchased the HCSB before 1/13/17, (2) place your Pre-Pub order for the CSB, and (3) do not cancel your Pre-Pub order until the CSB ships. Once the CSB ships, we’ll unlock the CSB for you and won't charge you for the order!

We do not currently have sample pages for this translation. We will update the product page once we do.

Please let me know if you have any questions!

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Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879102#Comment_879102

I have had the CSB in Accordance for several days now... I appreciate the update as an improvement but it doesn't strike me as something I will use much, nor was the HCSB either. As a free upgrade it's nice, as something to purchase I would not likely buy it. I had been impressed with mention of more inclusive language only to be disappointed to find in Matthew 5 sons of God has remained rather than KJV's children of God. Hope it finds a happy audience but I am not who they are aiming at I know.

-Dan

Mike Childs

I have owned the HCSB for quite a while, but the CSB still shows a $ 7.99 price for me. Why would that be?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879109#Comment_879109

If you followed the initial post directions, it will show that price but you will not be charged (according to FL). See here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/134883/876807.aspx#876807

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879109#Comment_879109

I have owned the HCSB for quite a while, but the CSB still shows a $ 7.99 price for me. Why would that be?

Michael,

The price will show as $7.99 for everyone. That is normal. As long as you qualify under the directions in the first post, we will not charge you the $7.99 once it ships--you'll get it for free!

Thanks for your question!

Allen Browne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879113#Comment_879113

I have owned the HCSB for quite a while, but the CSB still shows a $ 7.99 price for me. Why would that be?

Michael,

The price will show as $7.99 for everyone. That is normal. As long as you qualify under the directions in the first post, we will not charge you the $7.99 once it ships--you'll get it for free!

Thanks for your question!

Daniel, I do think this approach makes it confusing for us to maintain. I don't recall any previous product on my Pre-Pub list where I had to remember, "Well it says this price, but I'm actually going to pay this price."

If that becomes normal for other products too, we'll be expected to keep track of "Well this one was this much, and that one was that much, so the total at the bottom that I've actually signed up for is not $xx but is actually $yy." It's not going to help me sign up for more.

Is it really necessary to take us that direction? Pricing in Logos is already confusing enough. For example, the same NICNT/OT set already has 2 different SKUs so you can offer one of them to me at a discount if I buy a base package, and the discount I receive is about the same as what I can buy the same set for as the other product anyway.That doesn't engender trust that you're being transparent.

So perhaps Faithlife already has a credibility issue with pricing, and this isn't helping. Just FWIW.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879182#Comment_879182

IIRC there have been a couple of pre-pub where if x-number of people bid x$ we would all get it for free.

Ben Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/876528#Comment_876528

Thanks to Daniel for clarifying about ownership of the HCSB. I never purchased it individually but it has been in my library for years (decades?). So I am going to assume that it qualifies for the free CSB.

Ben

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879200#Comment_879200

I never purchased it individually but it has been in my library for years (decades?). So I am going to assume that it qualifies for the free CSB.

Yes. That was clarified in one of the follow up posts.

Mike Childs

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879112#Comment_879112

Thanks for the clarification. I don't is a very good way to do this, but that is how we will do it.

Has Faithlife hired some folks from United Methodist headquarters or perhaps some of the recently replaced government bureaucracy?

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879270#Comment_879270

Anyone have any idea when this will be shipped???????

Cynthia in Florida

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/877250#Comment_877250

So what does the future hold for the HCSB?

Will Holman stop publishing it after the release of the CSB?

P A

According to their own site, it will REPLACE the HCSB since they consider it a "revision" of the HCSB and not a new translation (although it certainly does look like one). Anyway, it appears that once the CSB goes into print, they will stop printing the HCSB and go with the CSB for print, although the HCSB will obviously be around digitally.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879880#Comment_879880

Hi Cynthia in Florida

I am not taking any chances. I just bought another HCSB Study Bible. This one is Charcoal Black with the "Crown of Thorns" ridged up on the Front Cover. I love it. I also might buy another one, since this is my "Go To" translation, and also the translation That I use for "Deep Study" of the Word of God.

I agree with you in that the CSB certainly does look like a new translation, even though they say that its not. What it does look like is a "LIBERAL TRANSLATION" and not a "LITERAL TRANSLATION" of the Word of God - something like a cross between the ESV and the NIV. The more modern a translation gets, the more literalness it loses.

Cynthia in Florida

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879892#Comment_879892

Hi Cynthia in Florida

I am not taking any chances. I just bought another HCSB Study Bible. This one is Charcoal Black with the "Crown of Thorns" ridged up on the Front Cover. I love it. I also might buy another one, since this is my "Go To" translation, and also the translation That I use for "Deep Study" of the Word of God.

I agree with you in that the CSB certainly does look like a new translation, even though they say that its not. What it does look like is a "LIBERAL TRANSLATION" and not a "LITERAL TRANSLATION" of the Word of God - something like a cross between the ESV and the NIV. The more modern a translation gets, the more literalness it loses.

Hello Ken: I likewise bought a couple. I wish I had done the same back when the Inductive Study Bible came out. Now they have the New Inductive Study Bible, and the margins are so small that NONE of my student like it, so we are constantly scoping out Amazon and Alibris for used ones. To date I have purchased well over 200 of those Bibles for my classes and even tried to get the publisher to reprint the old one, to no avail. Anyway, I'm venting a bit.

I also want to add that I COMPLETELY and totally agree with your statement

The more modern a translation gets, the more literalness it loses.

I have yet to see where that is not true.

A sign of the times I suspect, for those who read Scripture "normally" but not a big deal for others...hence the debates.

Wishing you and yours well!!

Cynthia

Floyd Johnson

We're pleased to announce that the Christian Standard Bible (CSB), a major overhaul of their popular Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) is now available on Pre-Pub!

https://www.logos.com/product/134491/christian-standard-bible

It looks like it has moved into development within the last few days. I have a paper copy for review and a digital copy on my tablet - I will look forward to getting the LOGOS version in the future.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883302#Comment_883302

I had the opportunity to review a paper book version of the CSB. Though it focuses on this particular printed copy, some may find it of interest:

http://bit.ly/CSBible

You can find other printed versions for sale (after March 1, 2017) and an installable version for Android (and possibly others). I will be looking forward to the forthcoming LOGOS version.

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883603#Comment_883603

Since anyone can purchase the CSB on Accordance and Kindle Direct right now, and start reading it - what in the world is taking LOGOS so long to get this into production?

It seems that to me everything takes longer with LOGOS?

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883623#Comment_883623

FL don't seem to be interested in speed to market. I don't know if their thinking is that FL customers will wait because they have a superior product - in their view.

Since anyone can purchase the CSB on Accordance and Kindle Direct right now, and start reading it - what in the world is taking LOGOS so long to get this into production?

It seems that to me everything takes longer with LOGOS?

Kenute P. Curry

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883631#Comment_883631

Well, I hardly spend any money on FL these days Disciple of Christ (doc)

When I can get it quicker and faster on Kindle Direct. Some of the books that I want are not even on LOGOS or VYRSO. For example: THE NIV ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY BIBLE, which i have bought on Kindle Direct, and am quite satisfied with the product. Am enjoying reading it so much.

Max Lucado's book GRACE is another one. I have seen a number of books that I want on Kindle Direct, that are not in LOGOS or VYRSO; and I will not wait around for FL to get them.

Troy Allen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883657#Comment_883657

Well, I hardly spend any money on FL these days Disciple of Christ (doc)

When I can get it quicker and faster on Kindle Direct. Some of the books that I want are not even on LOGOS or VYRSO.

I really don't mind the wait. I have so much to read an so little time in comparison that I will never read my entire library. Plus you have the added bonus of the literature being integrated into the Logos system.

I also like the idea of my money benefiting fellow brothers and sisters instead of a company that is diametrically opposed to me in almost everything I hold dear.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883623#Comment_883623

... what in the world is taking LOGOS so long to get this into production?

Personal Book Bible tagging experience => American Standard Version 1901 - Personal Bible without Chapter and Verse #'s took many hours along with finding several typos in the Logos ASV resource. Creating personal book of ASV Bible increased my appreciation of Logos tagging.

For example: THE NIV ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY BIBLE

Added 2016 Cultural Background Study notes to suggestion thread => SUGGESTION: NIV Archaeological Study Bible: An Illustrated Walk Through Biblical History and Culture plus noted 2010 thread => Archaeological Study Bible

Keep Smiling [:)]

LimJK

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/879113#Comment_879113

Daniel,

May I know does the new CSB comes with Reversed Interlinear for NT and OT? the current HCSB has RVI for NT. Thanks.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/884073#Comment_884073

May I know does the new CSB comes with Reversed Interlinear for NT and OT? the current HCSB has RVI for NT.

The RI's take much work and expense. Presumably, the answer will be "no" for the time being... especially considering the cost of the Bible.

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883743#Comment_883743

Creating personal book of ASV Bible increased my appreciation of Logos tagging.

Yes, anyone that has done it themselves understands best what is involved. Have a PBB Bible and am adding chapters as I do studies that use them.

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/884073#Comment_884073

Daniel,

May I know does the new CSB comes with Reversed Interlinear for NT and OT? the current HCSB has RVI for NT. Thanks.

When the CSB is shipped, it will not include a reverse interlinear, but we'll certainly keep that suggestion in mind!

LimJK

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/884186#Comment_884186

When the CSB is shipped, it will not include a reverse interlinear, but we'll certainly keep that suggestion in mind!

Daniel,

Thanks for your reply [:)]

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/884279#Comment_884279

It's now out for Accordance, Olive Tree and in it's own app. Hoping it comes soon for Logos.

Clur

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/890414#Comment_890414

Now showing as shipping on 4/5/2017.

James McAdams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/891626#Comment_891626

Now showing as shipping on 4/5/2017.

Woop woop! Well spotted.

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/891651#Comment_891651

I got a notice saying it would charge me the $7 on April 5. I'm supposed to get it free. Is this an error?

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893081#Comment_893081

I got a notice saying it would charge me the $7 on April 5. I'm supposed to get it free. Is this an error?

Same here ...

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893083#Comment_893083

I got a notice saying it would charge me the $7 on April 5. I'm supposed to get it free. Is this an error?

Same here ...

I'm sure the automated pre-pub emails aren't designed to handle special deals such as this.

Both FL and the product page say it will be free (for those who met the requirements of the deal). I would rely on that knowledge that you won't be charged even though the system has to display a price.

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893083#Comment_893083

I got a notice saying it would charge me the $7 on April 5. I'm supposed to get it free. Is this an error?

Same here ...

Hi all,

The email that you received was an auto-generated transactional email that sends once we set a date for shipment of a product. Since this is a specialized offer, our systems do not pick up on the nuances of the promotional offer.

However, I guarantee that you will NOT be charged the $7.99 fee come 4/5. We are in the process of sending a follow up email to those who qualify for the offer to indicate as much.

Thank you for making me aware of this!

Daniel

Kenneth Neighoff

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893093#Comment_893093

Thanks Daniel.

scooter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893093#Comment_893093

Thank you, Daniel.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893093#Comment_893093

[quote user="Daniel Motley"] I guarantee that you will NOT be charged the $7.99 fee come 4/5. We are in the process of sending a follow up email to those who qualify for the offer to indicate as much.

[/quote]

Will you post here when that e-mail is sent out - so errors (if any) can be corrected before the item ships? Thanks.

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893164#Comment_893164

I have received the email

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893164#Comment_893164

Will you post here when that e-mail is sent out - so errors (if any) can be corrected before the item ships? Thanks.

Floyd,

Emails were sent out a few moments ago, you should receive one in the next few minutes if you haven't already.

Thanks!

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893184#Comment_893184

When I saw the email telling me I was going to get charge I didn't even bother I know it was an error and sure enough later on I received an email with an apology. Thank you FL for another freebie! 👍

DAL

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893184#Comment_893184

Will you post here when that e-mail is sent out - so errors (if any) can be corrected before the item ships? Thanks.

Floyd,

Emails were sent out a few moments ago, you should receive one in the next few minutes if you haven't already.

Thanks!

No email was received in either my inbox or my spam folder. I do have the HCSB in my library. Who do I need to contact?

Raymond Urne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893255#Comment_893255

No email in my inbox either...

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893255#Comment_893255

Floyd and Raymond,

I'm going to look at both of your accounts and follow up to you both individually by email.

Thanks!

Matthew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893353#Comment_893353

Floyd and Raymond,

I'm going to look at both of your accounts and follow up to you both individually by email.

Thanks!

Please check mine as well Daniel. Thanks!

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893354#Comment_893354

Please check mine as well Daniel. Thanks!

Will do, Matthew!

David Salazar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893355#Comment_893355

I never got an email either.

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893357#Comment_893357

I never got an email either.

I'll check in on it for you as well, David.

Paulo Bechara

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893370#Comment_893370

Hi Daniel, please see if I quality. I just made the pre-order purchase. Thanks

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893353#Comment_893353

Floyd and Raymond,

I'm going to look at both of your accounts and follow up to you both individually by email.

Thanks!

Just a quick note to say that I received my followup e-mail at 3:58 this afternoon.

Thanks Daniel.

Daniel Motley (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893402#Comment_893402

Just a quick note to say that I received my followup e-mail at 3:58 this afternoon.

Thanks Daniel.

Thanks Floyd! We found the reason why ~100 people didn't receive the email.

Everyone else--you should have received the email by now. Let me know if you haven't.

Matthew

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893424#Comment_893424

Just a quick note to say that I received my followup e-mail at 3:58 this afternoon.

Thanks Daniel.

Thanks Floyd! We found the reason why ~100 people didn't receive the email.

Everyone else--you should have received the email by now. Let me know if you haven't.

I have not received an email.

Paulo Bechara

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/893426#Comment_893426

I have not received e-mail