Importing collections

Bob said in another thread:

Can you tell me more about the collections you have in 3.x? We're
open to importing them, but concerned that if we make it easy to bring
these hand-built collections over, users won't ever turn them into (the
much more powerful) query-built collections.

Do your collections "need" to be hand-built, or do they tend to group on author, series, or type of resource?

I have 112 collections. Some may be better built through a query,
and some, like the topical ones will have to be built manually
(actually with a query based off a mytag, but it would be manual
tagging). I'd like them to all be imported initially so that they are
available. It would be a chore to rebuild them all from scratch
(whether via query or manually). I'd replace them with query based
collections over time, but I'm also concerned that the built-in
resource tagging wouldn't be accurate, and so I'd have a lot of manual
work anyway. What do you think?

Here are my collections:

Ancient Writings (Extra-Biblical)
Apocrypha-Pseudepigrapha
Apologetics
Assurance
BDAG
Bibles (for menu)
Bibles - English (for searching)
Bibles - English
Bibles - Non-English Translations
Bibles - Original Language
Calvininsm
Classic Writings and Sermons
Commentaries - Baker Exegetical Commentary on the NT
Commentaries - Baker NT Commentary (Hendriksen-Kistemaker)
Commentaries - Boice, James
Commentaries - Calvin
Commentaries - Ellicott
Commentaries - For Passage Guide
Commentaries - Intermediate-Advanced
Commentaries - MacArthur
Commentaries - New American Commentary
Commentaries - One Volume
Commentaries - Pillar New Testament Commentaries
Commentaries - Pulpit Commentary
Commentaries - The Bible Speaks Today
Commentaries - Word Biblical Commentary
Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament
Creation-Evolution
Creeds and Confessions
Early Church Fathers
Ethics
Exegesis
History - Ancient Israel
History - Ecclesiastical
History - United States
Hymns
Journals - All
Journals - Bibliotheca Sacra
Journals - Chafer Theological Seminary Journal
Journals - Conservative Theological Journal
Journals - Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal
Journals - Emmaus Journal
Journals - Grace Journal
Journals - Grace Theological Journal
Journals - Journal of Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
Journals - Journal of Christian Apologetics
Journals - Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society
Journals - Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society
Journals - Masters Seminary Journal
Journals - Michigan Theological Journal
Journals - Trinity Journal
Journals - Westminster Theological Journal
LDLS Help
Language Tools - Greek - Grammars
Language Tools - Greek - Lexicons
Language Tools - Greek
Language Tools - Hebrew-Aramaic - Grammars
Language Tools - Hebrew-Aramaic - Lexicons
Language Tools - Hebrew-Aramaic
Language Tools - Latin
Language Tools - Syriac
Life of Christ
Life of Paul
Non-Versified -Commentaries- Search Collection
Pastoral Helps (Selected)
Periodicals - Discipleship Journal
Personal Piety
Philippians
Reference - Bible - Background - For Passage Guide
Reference - Bible - Background
Reference - Bible - Dictionaries and Encyclopedias
Reference - Bible - General
Reference - Bible - Introductions
Reference - Bible - Maps
Reference - Bible - Topical and Cross-Reference
Reference - Bible - Word Studies
Reference - Biography
Reference - General
Small Group Resources
Theology - Arminian
Theology - Biblical
Theology - Dispensational
Theology - Historical
Theology - Reformed
Theology - Systematic - Reformed
Theology - Systematic
Theology - Topics - Justification
Theology - Topics
Theology
To be read
Topic Search - Dictionaries-Encyclopedias
Topic Search - Topical Books
UBS Handbook Series
Works - Barth, Karl
Works - Bavinck, Herman
Works - Boston, Thomas
Works - Carson, D. A.
Works - Edwards, Jonathan
Works - Kuyper, Abraham
Works - Lloyd-Jones, D. Martyn
Works - M'Cheyne, Robert Murray
Works - MacArthur, John
Works - Owen, John
Works - Pink, Arthur W.
Works - Piper, John
Works - Ryle, J.C
Works - Schaeffer, Francis
Works - Sproul, R.C.
Works - Van Til, Cornelius
Works - Warfield, B.B.
Works - Watson, Thomas
Works - Wiersbe, Warren

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Bob Pritchett

I think this makes my point -- kinda. :-) The majority of these collections would (in my opinion) be much better as query collections, which would have the benefit of automatically including future matching works. When you got a new volume of a journal, or a new book by Piper, you wouldn't have to touch the collections.

(I understand that we've got some bad metadata, but a coming featue of 4.0 is the ability for us to update/repair metadata on the server and push it down to everyone's system without requiring a redownload of the resource.)

"Ethics" and "Theology" might be a bit harder to write queries for (depending on what you do/don't want in them), and "to be read" is clearly manual. But most of these seem very straightforward.

(For "To be read" it might be easier to just tag those resource "to read" and use the resulting implicit "mytag:to read" collection.)

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/8788#Comment_8788

I agree with everything you said.

I just don't want to have to sit down and build them all right away.

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/8790#Comment_8790

If we can share as we have in the past then I'm sure that a lot of these won't need rebuilding, especially the author ones, as others will build them.

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/8788#Comment_8788

I think this makes my point -- kinda. :-) The majority of these collections would (in my opinion) be much better as query collections, which would have the benefit of automatically including future matching works. When you got a new volume of a journal, or a new book by Piper, you wouldn't have to touch the collections.

(I understand that we've got some bad metadata, but a coming featue of 4.0 is the ability for us to update/repair metadata on the server and push it down to everyone's system without requiring a redownload of the resource.)

"Ethics" and "Theology" might be a bit harder to write queries for (depending on what you do/don't want in them), and "to be read" is clearly manual. But most of these seem very straightforward.

(For "To be read" it might be easier to just tag those resource "to read" and use the resulting implicit "mytag:to read" collection.)

I am 100% for the new way of collections. I love them in iTunes for music, I love them here. I love the dynamics of it. You tag a new resource and you have it in the given collection. In combination with the rating it is very powerful.

The only thing which would make it much easier (the manual building of collections) would be ability to tag the resources from any place, not only in the Library. I noticed I tried it few times, being used from other software (iTunes, Pictures Albums etc). Is there any plans to make it possible? It is quite discouraging to tag the resource if you have to go to the Library and find it there. I hope you are going to make a better use of the right click context menus for that things or some other way. That's just my observation.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/8798#Comment_8798

If we can share as we have in the past then I'm sure that a lot of these won't need rebuilding, especially the author ones, as others will build them.

Sharing them will work to a point but you will need to still do your own santiy checks particularly if you are taking a query form a user with a smaller libarary and applying it to a bigger libarary since you get resource in theire they didn' need to take into coniderstion in there query as exclusions. I like the idea of not having to update these collections everytime I add a new resource but on the flip side it could have unexpected results in a resouce finiding its way into a collection that you didn't intend for it to be a part of so still need to thnk about whats going on under the hood and have your eyes open at all times.

spitzerpl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/8800#Comment_8800

The only thing which would make it much easier (the manual building of collections) would be ability to tag the resources from any place, not only in the Library. I noticed I tried it few times, being used from other software (iTunes, Pictures Albums etc). Is there any plans to make it possible? It is quite discouraging to tag the resource if you have to go to the Library and find it there. I hope you are going to make a better use of the right click context menus for that things or some other way. That's just my observation.

Agreed. build up tags...they have a lot of potential.