New Community Pricing: Mobile Ed OT312 Book Study: Deuteronomy

Mobile Ed: OT312 Book Study: Deuteronomy

Title: OT312 Book Study: Deuteronomy Instructor: Daniel I. Block Publisher: Lexham Press Publication Date: 2017 Product Type: Logos Mobile Education Resource Type: Courseware, including transcripts, audio, and video resources Courses: 1 Video Hours: 20

Projected Price What’s Community Pricing? $180.00 Reg.: $749.99

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PetahChristian

Very happy to see Mobile Ed CP offerings! Thanks, FL!

Leo Wee Fah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886354#Comment_886354

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Jan Krohn

It would have had the potential for a much better price. Unfortunately the minimum is at $180.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886356#Comment_886356

It would have had the potential for a much better price. Unfortunately the minimum is at $180.

Very, very true, Jan, but perhaps FL felt that letting OT317 Judges (a similarly priced course with 18 hours of video) be driven down to $50 was a bad precedent?

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886357#Comment_886357

Very, very true, Jan, but perhaps FL felt that letting OT317 Judges (a similarly priced course with 18 hours of video) be driven down to $50 was a bad precedent?

You put my thoughts into words very well... In that case they should rather just have put it up as a pre pub for $180... It's not really community pricing, as it's not the community who makes the price.

Ronald Quick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886357#Comment_886357

I would like to bid on this, but I know I won't pay $180 for it, but unfortunately it's the lowest possible bid. Hopefully, Logos will open up lower bid options as they have done in the past.

Maybe they didn't like Judges at $50, but I purchased it whereas I would have passed if it were the same price as this one.

scooter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886360#Comment_886360

It's not really community pricing, as it's not the community who makes the price.

Not cool, FL. Please fix this, so the community sets the final price.

180: no thanks!

Jan Krohn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886361#Comment_886361

I'd be happy to bid and pay $80 to $90 for this one, and $50 to $60 for the Hebrews course.

I definitely won't pay $180, so I'm being fair, and don't bid for now.

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886364#Comment_886364

Assuming they do not let the price go lower this is $9.00 an hour compared to the typical $20 - $25 an hour or so when pre-pub. Then $35.00 an hour when retail. I think this price is an excellent value and I hope we get enough to make it happen. The Hebrews course ends up $8.00 an hour. Doubt they will ever be less.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

What’s Community Pricing? $180.00 Reg.: $749.99

Observation: $ 180 is $ 9 per hour for this Mobile Education Course.

Community Pricing allows closing price to drop when have more user bids.

If 1,000 bids of $ 180 (or higher) are needed to cover 100 % of projected course cost, then 1,125 bids of $ 180 (or higher) would reduce closing cost to $ 160 per bidder. Likewise if have enough bids of $ 180 of higher to cover 120 % of projected cost, then closing becomes $ 150 per bidder. If have enough bids of $ 180 of higher to cover 200 % of projected cost, then closing becomes $ 90 per bidder.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Rick Ausdahl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886360#Comment_886360

Very, very true, Jan, but perhaps FL felt that letting OT317 Judges (a similarly priced course with 18 hours of video) be driven down to $50 was a bad precedent?

You put my thoughts into words very well... In that case they should rather just have put it up as a pre pub for $180... It's not really community pricing, as it's not the community who makes the price.

In complete agreement, Jan. I'm not complaining about the price, although I don't think I can afford to bite at $180 with all the other orders I have coming down the pike. But I can't for the life of me figure how Faithlife can classify it as community pricing AND set a minimum bid, when that doesn't jive with their own definition of community pricing. I.e. Some excerpts from Faithlife's own web page explaining/defining community pricing.

Community Pricing -- You Set the Price
Cover production costs -- and nothing more
The more interest in a title, the lower the price.
To participate in our Community Pricing Program, simply view the available titles and place your bid at the highest price you’d pay for a title. As soon as we have enough orders to cover production costs, we’ll enter your order at the lowest possible price.

So yes, it should just be listed as a pre-pub resource. Listing it as a community pricing resource is just going to create confusion about what the community pricing program is.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886376#Comment_886376

Have we ever seen a Mobile Ed Pre-Pub offered at 76% off? Even if FL did that, it still won't solve the problem of customers not being able to afford it at that price point.

I'd rather get FL to lower the CP minimum, so more people can afford to bid on it.

Lower Mobile Ed pricing would also be beneficial for church subscription members, as more people could take advantage of the full learning experience, rather than just watching the video portion of a course.

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886378#Comment_886378

I will say that I am pretty sure if you wait till the bidding closes it will show up with Pre-pub pricing until it ships. That will be closer to 40- 50% off. So probably 300 - 400 dollars.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886379#Comment_886379

I will say that I am pretty sure if you wait till the bidding closes it will show up with Pre-pub pricing until it ships. That will be closer to 40- 50% off. So probably 300 - 400 dollars.

Yes, FL will definitely switch it to Pre-Pub pricing once CP bidding has closed.

OT317 jumped from $50 CP to $399 Pre-Pub (which ended up being ~40% off). I suspect this OT312 course will be priced even higher, probably $449 Pre-Pub.

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886383#Comment_886383

They have extended the lower end now. The Hebrews one is also showing lower options.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886963#Comment_886963

They have extended the lower end now. The Hebrews one is also showing lower options.

Thanks, FL! Every little bit helps a few more people be able to take advantage of the pricing!

Dave Thawley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886967#Comment_886967

Very happy to see this. I think the Deuteronomy study is longer that OT317 and I feel personally well worth the money at $180 - if it goes lower then fantastic but I will be happy just to have it. I think Block is a fantastic teacher as well and love the depth he goes into

Also looking forward the Hebrews offering - I should be finished OT317 by the time these are out :-)

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/886967#Comment_886967

They have extended the lower end now. The Hebrews one is also showing lower options.

Thanks, FL! Every little bit helps a few more people be able to take advantage of the pricing!

Personally I'd like to see even lower bidding options for this but I also understand that doing this might put this more at risk of never reaching 100%. It is a hard balance for Faithlife to achieve.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/887065#Comment_887065

Personally I'd like to see even lower bidding options for this but I also understand that doing this might put this more at risk of never reaching 100%. It is a hard balance for Faithlife to achieve.

The course hit 40% at $160, and FL has extended the lower end a second time, to $150 now.

I think there will always be a tipping point where the price becomes so low/attractive that the risk of not reaching 100% disappears.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/889431#Comment_889431

The course hit 40% at $160, and FL has extended the lower end a second time, to $150 now.

You convinced me. I just bid $150 with the hope that it will go even lower.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/890198#Comment_890198

Thanks, Bruce!

I think the advantage of getting on board is that it helps to lower the price for others who wait for a better price before they get on board.

Mark Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/890201#Comment_890201

I am in! Block on Duet.! Thank you Faithlife for putting it in Community Pricing!

SteveHD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/889431#Comment_889431

Showing some good progress nearing 60% @ $150!

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/889431#Comment_889431

I think there will always be a tipping point where the price becomes so low/attractive that the risk of not reaching 100% disappears.

The Catholic Encyclopedia experience suggests that this is not true.

David Carter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/891397#Comment_891397

I think there will always be a tipping point where the price becomes so low/attractive that the risk of not reaching 100% disappears.

The Catholic Encyclopedia experience suggests that this is not true.

Indeed. I've been on this since 2011 and I don't think it has moved much in six years

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/891397#Comment_891397

The low end has shifted from $150 to $140.

More room for downward movement! Thanks, FL!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/891717#Comment_891717

It looks like it's time for FL to lower the minimum bid again, to give anyone else who's held out an opportunity to get on board this deal.

I'm guessing this will close at $100 or less.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/896251#Comment_896251

The low end is for OT312 CP is now $118.

I'm guessing this will close in about 3 weeks, so this is your chance to get this 20-hour course at 85% off (and about $5/hour)!

Jan, this is getting close to your preferred bid of $90! Are you on board yet? [<:o)]

Gordon Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/896509#Comment_896509

I wonder if Logos will advertise this CP resource by email? I get lots of advertising emails about various features and offers but I don't think that I've had one about OT312. I would imagine that lots of Logos users will want to sign up, given that it's already 85% off, and further push down the final cost for us all. :-)

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/896533#Comment_896533

Miles did say that they "definitely plan on promoting the Mobile Ed community pricing courses going forward."

If FL is emailing people, perhaps we won't receive any email about it because we already are on board?

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/896533#Comment_896533

I wonder if Logos will advertise this CP resource by email?

They blogged about it today!

JoshInRI

I am very eager to take this course. I bid on it. I hope the cost comes down lower and I was sorry to have missed out on the Hebrews lost cost course.

Now that I am graduating I want to continue my education and Logos Courses if priced low enough seems like a great way to do it.

https://www.logos.com/product/137109/mobile-ed-ot312-book-study-deuteronomy

Miles Custis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/899196#Comment_899196

I was sorry to have missed out on the Hebrews lost cost course.

If you're referring to David deSilva's course on Hebrews, then you haven't missed out. It's still on Community Pricing as well: https://www.logos.com/product/137103/mobile-ed-nt362-exegetical-study-letter-to-the-hebrews