Friday, 6/23/2017: Mobile Ed: OT312 Book Study: Deuteronomy

David A Egolf said:

PLEASE DO NOT LOWER YOUR BIDS!  Doing so does not give you a lower cost.

A more significant issue is that lowering a bid can cause the successful current price to no longer be fully funded, which means it can't enter production.

Once it's closing soon, the only way to get the resource at a lower price is additional (new) successful bids. FL points this out in their email:

"The final price for this product will be lower for everyone if we receive enough new bids before the closing date, so please spread the word to anyone you know who may be interested in this."

$100 is no longer fully funded [:(]

Please don't lower a successful bid to an unsuccessful bid, in the hope that your lower bid will become successful.

A bid for $100 is already also a bid for every lower amount -- lowering your bid is not adding another (new) bid to the lower amount. But lowering your bid does pull support from higher prices, causing them to drop/lose funding.

The only way to lower the price is to get new successful bids, which comes from promoting the CP with others who haven't bid yet. The more people who bid (successfully), the lower the cost per person!

People are free to choose to place the bid they want to make. Someone may have bid $100 say, after listening to advice such being giving here with the belief the title would not actually cross the line at $100. Now that it has and they are actually not willing to pay $100 they are simply adjusting their bid so that it is in line with what they are willing to pay. They may have even decided to remove their bid completely. That is their free choice to make. We all need to be careful we are respecting that choice.

Yes that may potentially result in the price dropping to $90 if those people make the choice to increase their bid. It will certainly make a contribution to forcing the price down.

Mark Johnson said:

Would another way to lower the price be for those with "unsuccessful" bids to raise their bids to a "successful bid" (someone with a $80 bid changing it to $100)? If I understand this process correctly (which may not be the case), if the "unsuccessful" bidders (under $100) all raise their bids to a "successful' bid ($100), then that potentially lowers the final price.

Disciple of Christ (doc) said:

Now that it has and they are actually not willing to pay $100 they are simply adjusting their bid so that it is in line with what they are willing to pay.

People certainly are free to bid what they want. But if someone bid $100, but is only willing to pay, say, $80, then that bid for $100 has always been working against them. When it crosses the line way above $80, it may never get down to $80.

If it crossed the line at $80 instead of $100, then they're not only going to get it for $80, they probably will get it for less than $80, because more people would pay $80 instead of $100.

People should bid the most they're willing to pay, instead of trying to get it to cross the line at a much higher amount, and fighting the clock hoping to get enough bidders to drop it down to their price. Bidding too high is risky for everyone, because those bids get cancelled (making it harder to lower the price), and funding drops (making it harder to get it into production).

86.7% discount or 88% discount. Really! some would say no to 86.7% off because they might have had 88%. Bid green unless you are just not interested or able.

I agree, I have been in CP from the very beginning. And for these reasons I am saying we need to be careful not to tell people how much to bid. We are all customers, none of us are sales people so let's talk to one another like customers and talk about the implications of bidding at different price points and what happens when we change those bids but lets do so in general terms to educate rather than to direct people to bid a certain amount. People will be turned off if you act like a salesperson and try to tell what to do.

I would llike to see these all go out at as low a price as possible but at the end of the day whether it is $100 or $90 or $85 it is still a great deal and I appreciate FL giving these titles an opportunity on CP before putting them into prepub.

PetahChristian said:

Disciple of Christ (doc) said:

Now that it has and they are actually not willing to pay $100 they are simply adjusting their bid so that it is in line with what they are willing to pay.

People certainly are free to bid what they want. But if someone bid $100, but is only willing to pay, say, $80, then that bid for $100 has always been working against them. When it crosses the line way above $80, it may never get down to $80.

If it crossed the line at $80 instead of $100, then they're not only going to get it for $80, they probably will get it for less than $80, because more people would pay $80 instead of $100.

People should bid the most they're willing to pay, instead of trying to get it to cross the line at a much higher amount, and fighting the clock hoping to get enough bidders to drop it down to their price. Bidding too high is risky for everyone, because those bids get cancelled (making it harder to lower the price), and funding drops (making it harder to get it into production).

It is $90 now

David Carter said:

Wild Eagle said:

It is $90 now

Not any more - it's back up to $100 - but I'm sure it will be back down soon

Are we seeing different things?

David A Egolf said:

Friday is coming!  A lower price is possible.

At the rate that $85 is moving to cross the line, that might take 2-3 days, but we're down to the last 24 hours now.

Still very thankful for $90, but an extra $5 here, $5 there, it all adds up, considering how many Open Pre-Pub orders we all have. I'm probably going to have to cancel some of Pre-Pubs I wanted, to afford the other ones.

Also thankful that FL has book studies for 4 books of the Pentateuch! Hoping they can get someone to teach a Numbers book study! (Also as their Mobile Ed catalog grows, I would be interested in book study certificates for sections such as the Pentateuch.)

SteveHD said:

I hope there won't be people who leave an unsuccessful slightly lower bid and miss the deal.

There are going to be hundreds of people who have unsuccessful lower bids. $90 is too rich for lots of people.

[:D]

Shipping on February 21st ! Glad I got it at the bargain Community Pricing price [:D]

Miles Custis said:

Just so those who were interested in getting OT312 on Community Pricing know, we have put up two new Mobile Ed courses on Community Pricing:

• OT300 Old Testament Theology by Bruce Waltke
• MI255 Peace in the City: Alexis de Tocqueville and the Church in America by Jim Belcher

More bids on OT300 please!!

Keith Pang said:

More bids on OT300 please!!

So we can drive the price down

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Ryan said:

Keith Pang said:

More bids on OT300 please!!

I was going to bid on it but I got seasick watching the sample video  That man has some incredible balance. I would have certainly fallen off that chair.

I couldn't help but chuckle at your comment as I too found myself turning a wee bit green while watching the sample video.  But I was attracted by what he was saying and am hoping that Bruce and Faithlife will notice how distracting (distressing?) the swaying can be, and make adjustments to lessen that as they move into recording for the full production.  But if they don't (or aren't able) to do that, I'll still give it a go, knowing I can return it if I can't keep my lunch down when watching. [;)]

The scale on OT300 needs to be moved to allow lower bids.  Right now $190 is the lowest we can bid.