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Just wondering .. Why 7.6 and 7.7 releases lacked new features? And even this 7.8 seems to be lacking too..
Is it because you guys are putting all the efforts in web app?
How about the major improvements for the Media?
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mike said:
Just wondering .. Why 7.6 and 7.7 releases lacked new features? And even this 7.8 seems to be lacking too..
Is it because you guys are putting all the efforts in web app?
How about the major improvements for the Media?
Our Bible study products developers are pretty evenly distributed across desktop, web, mobile, and back-end services. So each area is getting a good amount of attention.
We have intentionally shifted to focus more on improving core areas of the software like performance, notes, etc.
Here are the things we've been working on or are next up in our queue:
- Startup (and shutdown) performance on desktop
- Resource opening performance on desktop (early investigations)
- Brand new cross-platform Notes tool that will replace our existing document-centric model
- An exciting new feature that's taken multiple releases and may come out with 7.9 or 7.10
- Improvements to Courses
- Improvements to Sermon Editor
- Ability to send a sermon outline from a resource to a new Sermon document
- New sermon outlines guide section
- New guide section for music.faithlife.com
- New media visual filter with Verse of the Day, Atlas maps, and other media
- Panel linking in the Media tool
- Undo closed tab feature
- New datasets on questions and commands in the Bible
- Additional datasets in Bible Browser
- Fuzzy Bible Search integration into Bible Search
- Updating to our new vector-based Atlas tool that is used on the web
- Lots of bug fixes
- Logos web app
- Major improvements to the Logos mobile app
- R&D for major new Logos 8 features
What would you like to see us improve with the Media tool? Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
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The "Brand new cross-platform Notes tool that will replace our existing document-centric model" is really exiting, the document centric model is unstandable from a technical perspective but it is incredibly user unfriendly and opaque.
The new model should really enhance the user experience, even if some people insist on using it to write novels in.
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Mike Pettit said:
The "Brand new cross-platform Notes tool that will replace our existing document-centric model" is really exiting, the document centric model is unstandable from a technical perspective but it is incredibly user unfriendly and opaque.
The new model should really enhance the user experience, even if some people insist on using it to write novels in.
Have you seen the kind of notes that Turabian style allows in academic works? [;)]
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability to insert a custom heading into the Library Prioritize list via right click Context menu.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability to insert a custom heading into the Library Prioritize list via right click Context menu.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
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I'm happy to see performance of the App is at the top of the list. I think this should stay a key priority beyond start up times to search times, population of info panel etc.
Also:
!! Systematic Theology section in Factbook!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
1. A GUI for advanced search commands, of course! Here's how I imagine it... Something like a dropdown that allows you to choose from a list could be a simple and effective solution. Imagine a Magic Wand on the search panel, you click it, and a drop down appears, with fly out menus. The dropdown could be similar to the current left-hand panel of the Bible Browser, but adapted for the search panel (e.g. it would include search operators as well). The flyouts could allow you to type to filter in order to, for example, select the flyout for persons, then filter to find Peter. Once "Peter" was selected, the GUI would then simply insert the text <Person Peter> into the search panel wherever your cursor happened to be. Should be a simple solution that would solve the two most important difficulties in search right now: discovery of what exists, and creation of the search string.
2. "Knowledge management" for notes, highlighting, and clippings for the new notes system, along the lines of Citavi. Goal would be to greatly improve the experience of gathering and organizing notes, highlights, and clippings for sermons, as well as for authoring of papers, articles, or books.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Here are the things we've been working on or are next up in our queue:
- Startup (and shutdown) performance on desktop
- Resource opening performance on desktop (early investigations)
- Brand new cross-platform Notes tool that will replace our existing document-centric model
The rest is meh.
These 3 are most important with #3 being most important since I am sure it also will include web app notes.
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Fr Devin Roza said:
1. A GUI for advanced search commands, of course! Here's how I imagine it... Something like a dropdown that allows you to choose from a list could be a simple and effective solution. Imagine a Magic Wand on the search panel, you click it, and a drop down appears, with fly out menus. The dropdown could be similar to the current left-hand panel of the Bible Browser, but adapted for the search panel (e.g. it would include search operators as well). The flyouts could allow you to type to filter in order to, for example, select the flyout for persons, then filter to find Peter. Once "Peter" was selected, the GUI would then simply insert the text <Person Peter> into the search panel wherever your cursor happened to be. Should be a simple solution that would solve the two most important difficulties in search right now: discovery of what exists, and creation of the search string.
YES, YES, YES. Several years ago there was a discussion about this. As DataSets and search functions have been added, some strings have gotten very complex. I often find myself going back to documentation because I cannot remember the correct syntax. Even then, it is often difficult to construct a search string that Logos will accept.
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Fr Devin Roza said:
2. "Knowledge management" for notes, highlighting, and clippings for the new notes system, along the lines of Citavi. Goal would be to greatly improve the experience of gathering and organizing notes, highlights, and clippings for sermons, as well as for authoring of papers, articles, or books.
Especially allowing for "integration" of documents of Bible study notes not supported by Logos - semantic webs, concept maps, mind maps, pdf's, argument maps, time lines ...
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Updating (completing) the outline and pericope datasets or allow users to do so.
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Support for religious ed teachers by creating a label / guide section for discussion questions in our resources; like sermons these should be able to be created by the user as well.
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Support for worship planners by creating a label/ guide section for hymn texts esp. those spread throughout our resources; like sermons these should be able to be created by the user as well.
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Support for religious ed teachers by allowing importing of timeline data for an L3 like presentation.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Letting us see where in our resources we have not yet read and to jump easily to them (e.g., to find out which days in a daily devotional we missed from last month, to easily jump back to where we had been reading through a monograph that got opened during a search to a different spot).Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability of the reading plan tool to isolate chapters in books other than the Bible.
ie. when a chapter runs from page 24-32 and a new chapter beings on page 33. Why oh why does the reading plan so often dictate pages 23-30?
Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you.
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TCBlack said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability of the reading plan tool to isolate chapters in books other than the Bible.
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It's even worse for Vyrso 365-day devotionals.
Improving the reading tool would eliminate having to tediously create a custom reading plan, chapter by chapter, or day by day.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What would you like to see us improve with the Media tool?
Phil,
When searching in "Find Media", it would be helpful if there was an information pane, that could be toggled on and off as needed, that would appear on the right hand side so that when you hover over an image, it would list the meta information for that image. Information like ... Media Collection, Tags, Author, etc. This would help immensely to know how to search to find additional media that is similar.
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Yes please. Creating Custom Reading Plans is agonizing, but necessary with the current clumsy system.PetahChristian said:TCBlack said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability of the reading plan tool to isolate chapters in books other than the Bible.
It's even worse for Vyrso 365-day devotionals.
Improving the reading tool would eliminate having to tediously create a custom reading plan, chapter by chapter, or day by day.
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TCBlack said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability of the reading plan tool to isolate chapters in books other than the Bible.
I struggle to understand why the reading tool is not one of the highest priority items on the list all the time. It certainly has been a sore point in my Logos use over the years.
One would think that with Faithlife wanting us to buy resources the tools for making them easy and convenient to read in a planned way would be seen to be a factor in the companies bottom line. But it seems to languish in the ignored tray version after version. Perhaps it is not exciting work?
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Mike
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Mike Binks said:TCBlack said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Anything else you'd like to see us prioritize?
The ability of the reading plan tool to isolate chapters in books other than the Bible.
I struggle to understand why the reading tool is not one of the highest priority items on the list all the time. It certainly has been a sore point in my Logos use over the years.
One would think that with Faithlife wanting us to buy resources the tools for making them easy and convenient to read in a planned way would be seen to be a factor in the companies bottom line. But it seems to languish in the ignored tray version after version. Perhaps it is not exciting work?
I've created a thread for us to hash out a specific list of requests and behavioral desires from a book reading plan:
Requesting reading plan generation improvements
Let's build a coherent, obtainable list.
Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you.
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Mike Binks said:
One would think that with Faithlife wanting us to buy resources the tools for making them easy and convenient to read in a planned way would be seen to be a factor in the companies bottom line.
Perhaps the company's emphasis is that the books are tagged and indexed for searching, not so much for reading? The marketing gist seems to be that we get "more results" from a bigger library.
I suspect the reading plan tool is ignored because Logos isn't promoted as a reading platform, and customers probably wouldn't spend thousands on the program for its reading plan tool features.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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SO excited about a new notes tool. I have given up on the documents tool multiple times because it has never made sense to me. Is there a timeframe on when we can start using the new notes tool?
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Fr Devin Roza said:
2. "Knowledge management" for notes, highlighting, and clippings for the new notes system, along the lines of Citavi. Goal would be to greatly improve the experience of gathering and organizing notes, highlights, and clippings for sermons, as well as for authoring of papers, articles, or books.
I made a video to explain what I mean by "knowledge management" and how I think it could really help the software.
Here is a link to a forum post where I introduce the video: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/147231.aspx
And a direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umt7zGkYkmw
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