Help with finding resources in a Bibliography of a resource already owned.

Dr. Ken
Dr. Ken Member Posts: 357 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

I am reading a book with lots of references and finding few available in Logos. My understanding is uncertain to the nature of your hyperlinks. 

Some times I click on a hyperlink within a body of text I am reading and I get the option then to copy the reference I presume for citation. Other times, I click on the hyperlink and if I own it, it takes me to that resource in my library to that exact quote when the location is hyperlinked. If I do not own the resource it either opens a window I can click on a link to go to that resource in my default browser at Logos.com or it gives me a brief description and an opportunity to buy it.

So if I click on the hyperlink title, I get the citation reference and if I click on the page number, I get the resource in my library or a chance to buy it.

Problem here is in this bibliography, I own the NAC commentary on Job by Robert. L. Alden, yet Logos has not done the hyperlink to take me to that resource in my library here. As a matter of fact, going down through this bibliography, I do not know if I own any of the resources, if they are available in Logos, or not. The hyperlinking here is not working. 

Can someone please fix this? It will take me hours to go through this bibliography manually to see which resources I own, which are available, and which are not.

I thought I bought Logos, so I did not have to spend hours doing tasks like this??? I figure you would want to make it easier for me to buy them.

Is there an easier way to distinguish in a bibliography like this the resources I own in my library, those available in Logos, and those that are not?

I've scrolled down, I am not seeing any highlighted page numbers. Does that mean this guy wrote entirely using non-Logos resources???

Thanks!

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Some thoughts - and I may be wrong in some of this.

    The actual text in the bibliography is as the author wrote it - it is unchanged in the Logos edition.

    The hyperlinks have been added to make citations in Logos easier - it doesn't necessarily mean that the book is available in Logos format. So:

    • Interpreting the Prophetic Tradition is not in Logos
    • The NAC Job volume is

    But it is important to get as much of this linking done as possible when the resources are produced as referenced volumes may be added in later.

    Some older resources don't have this level of linking - some newer ones don't get it either.

    I've scrolled down, I am not seeing any highlighted page numbers. Does that mean this guy wrote entirely using non-Logos resources???

    No - but it does mean that the bibliography isn't the place to jump to the actual resources.

    Taking the NAC Job volume for example - the bibliography entry allows easy citation of the resource

    whereas the relevant footnote takes you to the right place in the resource

    Does this help / make sense?

  • Dr. Ken
    Dr. Ken Member Posts: 357 ✭✭

    Understood! BTW, this is the resource with the German! lol

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    BTW, this is the resource with the German! lol

    Understood[:)]

  • Dr. Ken
    Dr. Ken Member Posts: 357 ✭✭

    Wait...

    Anything with a blue hyper link is not necessarily available in Logos? How do I then find it easily to buy without manually doing the search myself in Logos? What are the hyperlinks then for? Is the hyperlink, so I can go elsewhere and access it outside of Logos? Or is it there so when I get the citation, Logos formats it in the manner I have chosen (eg. Turabian/Chicago, etc.) rather than the author’s chosen formatting? When I copy and paste it already does that???

    Allbright’s “Samuel and the Beginnings…” has a hyperlink. “Interpreting the Prophetic Tradition…” does not. Why?

    Allison’s “Elijah Must Come First” is in JBL and it lists the page numbers. Is the JBL available in Logos. If so, why ae not the pages numbers hyperlinked accordingly? Or is this particular article not in the JBL stuff Logos has?

    This is all so confusing, but you are helping to clear the mud!

     

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,639

    Anything with a blue hyper link is not necessarily available in Logos?

    Correct - in the Bibliography section it is there to provide citations and doesn't indicate presence in Logos

    Or is it there so when I get the citation, Logos formats it in the manner I have chosen (eg. Turabian/Chicago, etc.) rather than the author’s chosen formatting?

    It allows you to select different copying options

    Allbright’s “Samuel and the Beginnings…” has a hyperlink. “Interpreting the Prophetic Tradition…” does not. Why?

    Because it is the article being cited not the whole publication. Note the publication details are included in the article citation

    Allison’s “Elijah Must Come First” is in JBL and it lists the page numbers. Is the JBL available in Logos. If so, why ae not the pages numbers hyperlinked accordingly? Or is this particular article not in the JBL stuff Logos has?

    The page numbers show where in the JBL resource the particular article is. You get the link to the actual resource - which is in Logos - from the footnote

    So the presence of link in the bibliography doesn't tell us anything about whether the resource is in Logos or not.

    And even when it is sometimes the links aren't there. This is for a range of reasons often to do with when the respective resources were included in the Logos environment. And periodically links in resources are updated.

    For example, the Aune book on prophecy is in Logos - https://www.logos.com/product/43954/eerdmans-early-christian-prophecy-collection - but it isn't linked to it in the resource.

    One approach to find out about referenced books in Logos that you don't own is to use the Concordance Tool (assuming you have access to it) and set it to show Works Cited. References with a padlock are ones you don't own. Clicking on it gives a purchase option if in Logos.

    Hope this helps a little

  • Kalinda Glee
    Kalinda Glee Member Posts: 1

    It is so complicated. I am not quite sure about it.

  • Mary-Ellen
    Mary-Ellen Member Posts: 477 ✭✭

    It is so complicated. I am not quite sure about it.

    Yes, there is quite a lot of information (and Logos-ese) here to absorb!

    If you have the Concordance tool (under "Reference" in the Tools menu), shown in Graham's last image, that is the most direct route to a complete list of what is and isn't available in Logos, and if so, whether or not you own it.

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