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Thanks for pointing these out.
Thanks for the information.
Thanks, just ordered them.
Thank you John. Just ordered them.
NKJV?
Akin I believe is an ESV man.
Whilst that may well be true, it would appear from the Amazon 'look inside' feature of the Song of Songs volume that the predominant translation used in that particular volume is the HCSB
I am not surprised by that either. He'd bleed for the SBC I think. HCSB is the SBC translation. Supporting it supports lifeway, which supports his seminary.
I think these are worth a look. Eventually it is supposed to be a series of 48 volumes.
...not with that translation. Blessings to all who enjoy it though. Not I.
Can you explain this sentiment?
I couldn't care less what translation a commentary uses because I'm only interested in their comments (though, even as a baptist, I dislike the HCSB). This type of "expository" commentary doesn't deal with the minutia of word choices; it deals with the "big ideas" of each passage. Choice of translation isn't important in what this series is trying to accomplish.
There are already many of these books in the series. FL just shows these two. Kindle already has 12 of them...all on sale.
There are already many of these books in the series. FL just shows these two.
If you are interested in more, you should create a thread in the Vyrso forum. It <may> be that FL wants these in Logos and is withholding them... in which case the two on sale may be removed.
There are already many of these books in the series. FL just shows these two. If you are interested in more, you should create a thread in the Vyrso forum. It <may> be that FL wants these in Logos and is withholding them... in which case the two on sale may be removed.
For what it's worth, currently there are 14 of those in Vyrso: https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=title%3A%22exalting+Jesus+in%22&start=&sort=pricelo and I think the publisher likes it just this way. It seems they are offered on a $2.99 sale now and then - I own those seven that were on sale in the past.
I picked these up in another format, 16 volumes for 89.99- there is no extensive tagging or linking so really no reason to wait for FL if you find a much better price.
no extensive tagging or linking so really no reason to wait for FL if you find a much better price.
I personally hate to have stuff not in Logos format, since it won't come up when I'm looking for something in Logos. I find that I rarely open the other bible software I own (in fact, I didn't even install it when I switched to my current PC) and will usually not search my Kindle library or the plethora of PDF files on my HD for commentaries, articles etc. So the Vyrso format is absolutely superior to any other ebook format.
On the other hand, I may not be able to resist a really really good price - or there may be a situation where I want to read a specific book just right now and it's not in Logos (as someone in the other thread starts Matthew right now, and it's not available for the Logos universe).
Regarding the cost argument: my current seven "Exalting Jesus in ..." resources cost me about $20 - I really wouldn't want to pay twice as much per resource and then still have it in a sub-standard format. But that's me, your mileage may vary.
Oh my, a Christ-centred "exposition" of the Song of Songs? Same old Church as the bride allegorical interpretation? [:S]
I don't have much patience for this nonsense.
Oh my, a Christ-centred "exposition" of the Song of Songs? Same old Church as the bride allegorical interpretation?
I don't think the author sees Christ-centered as equivalent to allegorical interpretation. This is how the hermeneutical approach is explained in the book:
Some believe the book is about Solomon or written to Solomon. On this view he is not the author. It may even be a critique of his sinful decisions in the area of marriage. Others believe Solomon wrote Song of Songs as a young man, his contribution to Proverbs as a middle age man, and Ecclesiastes as an old man. If this is true, and it is certainly possible, then Song of Songs is historical poetry about his first and truest love. However, I think it more likely that Solomon penned Song of Songs (probably later in life) as the ideal, as a poetic picture of what God intended marriage to be. It could even be a song of confession and repentance for his sins of adultery and polygamy. If this is true, then the song looks back to Genesis 1–2 and the beautiful love, harmony, and joy Adam and Eve experienced before sin entered the world and messed up everything (cf. Gen 3). It also anticipates the redeemed marriage relationship depicted in Ephesians 5:21-33. Douglas O’Donnell sums up well what I think is going on:The Song is a song that Adam could have sung in the garden when Eve arose miraculously from his side; and it remains a song that we can and should sing in the bedroom, the church and the marketplace of ideas. (Song, 20)This understanding of the Song, I believe, helps us answer the first question: How should we interpret the Song? This clarity comes from understanding that Song of Songs is not a random collection of Syrian, Egyptian, or Canaanite cultic liturgies. It is not a drama with various acts or scenes, attractive as this view is. Nor is it an anthology of disconnected songs praising the bliss of human sexual love between a man and woman. There is unity and even progression in the Song too obvious to ignore. No, it is best understood as a theological and lyrical masterpiece that shows what marriage ought to be. However, and this is important, we must not stop with the natural reading of the text. We should complete the interpretive process and recognize that, as poetry, the Song was intended to evoke multiple emotions, feelings, and understandings. By way of analogy, it is easy to see how the bride and bridegroom in this Song portray to us God and Israel, Christ and His church, the Savior and His people. Jim Hamilton points us in a good direction when he says, “The Song is about Israel’s shepherd King, a descendant of David, who is treated as an ideal Israelite enjoying an ideal bride in a lush garden where the effects of the fall are reversed” (“Messianic,” 331). And Dennis Kinlaw fleshes out even more fully where God, the divine author of the Bible, intended to take us:The use of the marriage metaphor to describe the relationship of God to his people is almost universal in Scripture. From the time that God chose Israel to be his own in the Sinai Desert, the covenant was pictured in terms of a marriage. Idolatry was equated with adultery (Exod 34:10-17). Yahweh is a jealous God. Monogamous marriage is the norm for depicting the covenant relationship throughout Scripture, climaxing with the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. God has chosen a bride. [However], we tend to review the covenant-marriage relationship as an example of how human, created, historical realities can be used analogically to explain eternal truths. Thus human marriage is the original referent, and the union of God with his people is seen as the union of a loving husband and wife. . . . In reality there is much in Scripture to suggest that we should reverse this line of thought. Otherwise the union of Christ with his bride is a good copy of a bad original. The reality is, as Bromiley insists, that earthly marriage, as it is now lived, is “a bad copy of a good original.” The original referent is not human marriage. It is God’s elect love, first to Israel and then to the church. If divine love is the pattern for marriage, then there must be something pedagogical and eschatological about marriage. It is an earthly institution that in itself images something greater than itself. (Kinlaw, “Song,” 1208)Kinlaw is right. This earthly institution and this Song point us to a Bridegroom-King whose name is Jesus, a bridegroom who “loved the church [His bride] and gave Himself for her” (Eph 5:25). It should not surprise us that the Song of Songs is messianic and christological. After all, Jesus Himself said of the Scriptures in John 5:39, “They testify about Me.” This, then, would include the Song of Songs. It anticipates the joys of salvation realized when we enter the chambers of redemption provided by this King (Song 1:4).So as we walk through this carefully crafted love poem, we will see how it addresses the gift of marriage as it was intended by our great God. We will raise points of practical application so that we might more perfectly put into practice what we learn. But then we will conclude each study by asking, “What do I see, feel, hear, and glean about my King, the Lord Jesus, from this text?” This promises to be an exciting, instructive, and worshipful journey to be sure.
Akin, Daniel L., David Platt, and Tony Merida. Exalting Jesus in Song of Songs. Nashville: B&H, 2015.
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Supporting it supports lifeway, which supports his seminary.
Interesting, I didn't know there was affiliation there. So then I guess WordSearch Bible Software is ultimately an SBC affiliation too
After all, Jesus Himself said of the Scriptures in John 5:39, “They testify about Me.” This, then, would include the Song of Songs. It anticipates the joys of salvation realized when we enter the chambers of redemption provided by this King (Song 1:4).
Thanks for the quote N.B. If anything it will help readers to have a more precise idea of what to expect. I am not reassured in the least by what I read here. The passage I have copied above illustrates well how flawed the approach is, first in its application of John 5:39 and then in the same old lines of interpretation dignified with a bit more of scholarly content around it. If anyone is inclined to what to compare the "chambers" of the Song of Song with the joys of salvation, to each his own. I know there have been people in church history who have ventured to even describe the "intimacy" of their alleged relationship with Christ in quasi-erotic terms. [+o(][+o(][+o(]
In any case, thanks again for the reply. Case closed for me.
Supporting it supports lifeway, which supports his seminary. Interesting, I didn't know there was affiliation there. So then I guess WordSearch Bible Software is ultimately an SBC affiliation too
30 months later it appears that FL doesn't want them in either format!
it appears that FL doesn't want them in either format!
That's not how I read Ben and Phil in the other thread.
I have heard in not to distant past it said life way wasn’t wanting many of their books outside of their own software yet Accordance and Olivetree seems to have little problems getting them, indeed this series was just realeased in Accordance the n the last month. For better or worse FL seems to be one some publishers prefer to avoid. Now hard negotiating may well end up in much better deals for us, I do not know that someone is being dishonest in the saying life way is restricting their imprints to WordSearch (If they told FL that shame on them, but that would suggest a very bad relationship with a pretty major publisher in the Baptist world).
-Dan
